The McCain Thread

[Mr Sparkle]

I hope so. Kaine, I'm surprised you are taking that seriously, I'm still waiting for Susan Sarandon and Barbara Streisand to leave from the 2000 elections.

why do you hope Michael Stipe leaves?
did he do something to you or something?

 

[jaguarr]

Michael Stipe might leave the US if McCain wins.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sh...+Michael+Stipe+Wants+US+To+Elect+Barack+Obama

*sigh* I hate it when celebrities pull this crap. No one cares if you will leave. Especially when most of the people who threaten to do so never do. If you want to promote your support for a candidate, there are much better ways to go about it than this.

jag

 

[SuBe]

Sarandon threatened to leave last year.

I remember seeing her on some news program in 2000 with Tim Robbins, talking about leaving for Canada if Bush won. I'm still waiting.

 

[SuBe]

why do you hope Michael Stipe leaves?
did he do something to you or something?

No, I just don't like when someone claims to leave if so-and-so wins the election, because I have yet to hear or read about someone that actually does it. So, I hope this Stipe Guy actually does what he say he will do.

 

[EdRyder]

No, because I was in the Marines during Sept 11th 2001, up until 2005. So, no, I was never treated badly. My brother has never been treated badly. All my friends have never been treated badly. So, no. It doesn't piss me off that the Republicans have treated troops badly, infact I like what they did, they increased the Pay for Troops, that's something that Clinton didn't get around to doing.

Oh, I know what it is, you are believing the Liberal Media News Outlets. Thats why you think that they have it so bad. Ok, gotcha.

Clinton gave the military its largest pay hike they had in 30 years.Weve been over this before havent we?

 

[Mr Sparkle]

No, because I was in the Marines during Sept 11th 2001, up until 2005. So, no, I was never treated badly. My brother has never been treated badly. All my friends have never been treated badly. So, no. It doesn't piss me off that the Republicans have treated troops badly, infact I like what they did, they increased the Pay for Troops, that's something that Clinton didn't get around to doing.

Oh, I know what it is, you are believing the Liberal Media News Outlets. Thats why you think that they have it so bad. Ok, gotcha.

The Bush administration today threatened to a veto a House defense spending bill over a 3.5 percent pay raise for U.S. soldiers and a $40/month increase in benefits for military widows, among other provisions. The legislation passed the House today 397-27.

that's from 07

Democrats in Congress are accusing the Bush administration of cutting the compensation of troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, but administration officials rebutted the argument by saying that while certain raises in bonuses would not be extended, overall compensation would not be reduced, the Boston Globe reports.

that's from 03

President Bush has tried every year in his two presidential terms to cut the budget of the Veteran's Administration (VA). It was so bad a couple of years ago that the head of the VA had to declare that due to a lack of funding, they were cutting back on the care given to the vets. He also stated that by mid-year, he would declare the VA totally broke. After this declaration, with a strong push by the Democrats in Congress, additional funding was finally pushed through the Congress.

that's a fact

Newsmax.com reported in October 2003 that nearly one-quarter of US troops in Iraq did not have new ceramic body armor that protects from bullets from assault rifles. The article went on to report that President Bush did not request more money for body armor

that's from 05 from Newsmax.....how very...uh..liberal.

plus, not for nothing, but basically, if you were in the army from sept 11th 01 to 2005 then, uh....you basically served under the remnants of the CLINTON military, as Bush had spent much of the defense budget that first year on his "missile defense shield".

In fact, the Clinton administration actually spent more money on defense than the previous administration of President George H.W. Bush. The smaller outlays during the first Bush administration were developed and approved by then-Defense Secretary Cheney and then-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell. The Clinton administration did not coast on Reagan-era procurement funding. During the 1990s, the Pentagon invested more than $1 trillion in developing and procuring new weapons and information technology that gave U.S. forces such an unprecedented advantage in the last two U.S. military campaigns. But more significant than the budget increases was the shift that occurred in the mid-1990s. That shift involved much greater emphasis on precision weapons, sensors, robotics, advanced communications, training, readiness, and orienting the intelligence community toward direct support of military operations. It was that shift that produced the superb military that not only swept through Iraq at a rate that defied historical precedent, but used its awesome force with unprecedented precision and effect, unprecedented low collateral damage, and unprecedented low casualty rates. It was the American Revolution in Military Affairs begun in the Clinton administration that was unveiled in Bush's Operation Iraqi Freedom.

darn them facts!

 

[Mr Sparkle]

No, I just don't like when someone claims to leave if so-and-so wins the election, because I have yet to hear or read about someone that actually does it. So, I hope this Stipe Guy actually does what he say he will do.

Stipe-guy? heathen! you are dead to me.

 

[SuBe]

Stipe-guy? heathen! you are dead to me.

Meh.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

was that the wails of the dead I hear?

 

[SuBe]

was that the wails of the dead I hear?

 

[imdaly]

I hope so. Kaine, I'm surprised you are taking that seriously, I'm still waiting for Susan Sarandon and Barbara Streisand to leave from the 2000 elections.

Now don't go forgetting Alec Baldwin, too!

 

[EdRyder]

I remember the first time he threatened to veto a 3.7 hike in 07 Sparkle.,,He called the 40 dollar a month widows benefit increase "unnecessary"
Bush budget officials said the administration “strongly opposes” both the 3.5 percent raise for 2008 and the follow-on increases, calling extra pay increases “unnecessary.”



– a $40/month allowance for military survivors, saying the current benefits are “sufficient”

– additional benefits for surviving family members of civilian employees

– price controls for prescription drugs under TRICARE, the military’s health care plan for military personnel and their dependents

 

[SuBe]

Now don't go forgetting Alec Baldwin, too!

There should be a list. There are a ton of them I've heard about over the years, but I can't remember all of them.

 

[The Senator]

Alec Baldwin, Susan Surrandon, Tim Robbins, and Sean Penn do not speak for me.

Sean Penn is a *****ebag and I truly hope that something awful happens to him.

 

[SuBe]

Alec Baldwin, Susan Surrandon, Tim Robbins, and Sean Penn do not speak for me.

Sean Penn is a *****ebag and I truly hope that something awful happens to him.

He COULD try to make a bad movie once in a while, sshesh!

 

[DorkyFresh]

that's from 07

that's from 03

that's a fact

that's from 05 from Newsmax.....how very...uh..liberal.

plus, not for nothing, but basically, if you were in the army from sept 11th 01 to 2005 then, uh....you basically served under the remnants of the CLINTON military, as Bush had spent much of the defense budget that first year on his "missile defense shield".




darn them facts!

wow...and those don't even cover the extended tours.

 

[The Senator]

He COULD try to make a bad movie once in a while, sshesh!

You mean like all of his movies?

Why is it, than in every Sean Penn movie, there has to be a scene with him screaming uncontrollably? He has such limited acting range, yet people love him. I don't get it.

I think the truly awful thing that could happen to him would be losing the Oscar for that biopic of Harvey Milk he is making. He only took the role, I'm sure, so he could win another award. If he loses, my life will be complete.

And I hope Chris Rock pummels him for acting like a *****e at the Academy Awards a few years back.

 

[The Chairman]

Alec Baldwin, Susan Surrandon, Tim Robbins, and Sean Penn do not speak for me.

Sean Penn is a *****ebag and I truly hope that something awful happens to him.

Agreed, though the Sean Penn thing is wrong. Nothing can happen to Spicolli. Nothing. Plus, Milk looks awesome.

Also, her unorthodox way of expressing her political views aside, Susan Sarandon is one of the most awesome people I've ever met.

 

[kainedamo]

that's from 07



that's from 03



that's a fact


that's from 05 from Newsmax.....how very...uh..liberal.

plus, not for nothing, but basically, if you were in the army from sept 11th 01 to 2005 then, uh....you basically served under the remnants of the CLINTON military, as Bush had spent much of the defense budget that first year on his "missile defense shield".




darn them facts!

Whoohoo!

 

[The Senator]

Agreed, though the Sean Penn thing is wrong. Nothing can happen to Spicolli. Nothing. Plus, Milk looks awesome.

Also, her unorthodox way of expressing her political views aside, Susan Sarandon is one of the most awesome people I've ever met.

Sean Penn is to indie movies as Nicolas Cage is to action flicks.

 

[SuBe]

that's from 07



that's from 03



that's a fact


that's from 05 from Newsmax.....how very...uh..liberal.

plus, not for nothing, but basically, if you were in the army from sept 11th 01 to 2005 then, uh....you basically served under the remnants of the CLINTON military, as Bush had spent much of the defense budget that first year on his "missile defense shield".




darn them facts!

Not for Nothing, if you will hear the wails of a DeadGuy, I apologize. You are right.

But, I have not been personally affected by anything Negatively by Administratoin, and neither has my brothers mentioned to me anything negative.

 

[The Chairman]

Sean Penn is to indie movies as Nicolas Cage is to action flicks.

Ill suited?

 

[SuBe]

Sean Penn is to indie movies as Nicolas Cage is to action flicks.

That is an interesting view. I liked a couple of his movies, but he does need to be "Shut up" more.

 

[The Chairman]

Baldwin > Penn > Robbins. Robbins was only good in Shawshank.

 

[jaguarr]

Oh, good grief. McCain is against Net Neutrality (which irks me enough as it is) AND...AND...he would make Steve Ballmer his technology adviser. Ballmer? The guy who has almost single handedly killed Microsoft? You've got to be kidding me!

http://www.thedailybackground.com/2...-says-would-hire-microsoft-ceo-steve-ballmer/

McCain comes out against Net Neutrality; Says would hire Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer
Filed at 6:05 pm, Wednesday May 30th 2007
by Arlen Parsa

Republican presidential hopeful John McCain yesterday attended a technology conference and came out against Net Neutrality.

McCain said he did not think government regulation of internet service providers to stop them from censoring, slowing down, or otherwise disrupting consumer’s access to the internet in order to stifle competitors or undesirable content was an appropriate solution. In fact, McCain even seemed at one point to be open to ISPs censoring consumer’s internet experience to block access to competitors’ services, saying at one point “When you control the pipe you should be able to get profit from your investment.”

McCain’s comments came at the D: Al Things Digital conference in Carlsbad, California. The annual conference is organized by the Wall Street Journal and hosted by tech gurus Walter Mossberg and Kara Swisher.

McCain later added “I’m all for the government encouraging competition, but I’ve found over time that less government involvement is better.” In one publicized case which critics say was an example of ISP censorship, AOL censored email sent by their users which included links to the anti-AOL website DearAOL.com. After there was an outcry on the internet, AOL later claimed the censorship was unintentional and that a technical glitch somehow only effected emails including the URL.

“Unless there is a clear-cut, unequivocal restraint of competition, the government should stay out of it,” McCain said. “These things will sort themselves out.”

In the past, McCain has said made statements strongly favorable towards telcos. In a statement issued after a 2006 Senate hearing into the matter, McCain said “I believe that the network operators should get a return on their infrastructure investments.” He also claimed that at the same time he did not want ISPs to block internet access to consumers, but when a bill came up to prevent this type of corporate censorship, McCain opposed it.

In another move that was sure to infuriate many geeks, the 70 year old presidential hopeful also said that he would ask Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to serve on his cabinet to deal with technology issues if elected. He did not however say what position Ballmer might be hired in, but did joke that he might consider him for a diplomatic position, such as ambassador to China.

Ballmer is not known in the tech industry for his diplomatic prowess: he once threw a chair across his office saying he would “f**king kill Google” after learning that a prized employee had defected to the search giant.

jag