The McCain Thread

Who will be McCain's runningmate?

  • Mitt Romney (former Governor of Massachussets)

  • Mike Huckabee (former Governor of Arkansas)

  • Rudy Giuliani (former mayor New York)

  • Charlie Christ (current governor of Florida)

  • Fred Thompson (former US Senator of Tennessee)

  • Condaleeza Rice (Secretary of State)

  • Colin Powell (former Secretary of State)

  • JC Watts (former Republican chairman of Republican House)

  • Rob Portman (Director of Office of Management and Budget)

  • Tim Pawlenty (Governor of Minnesota)

  • Bobby Jindal (Governor of Lousiana)

  • Mark Sanford (Governor of South Carolina)

  • Lindsey Graham (US Senator of South Carolina)

  • Sarah Palin (Governor of Alaska)

  • Kay Hutchinson (US Senator of Texas)

  • John Thune (US Senator of South Dakota)

  • Haley Barbour (Governor of Mississippi)

  • Marsha Blackburn (US Tenessee Representative)

  • Joseph Lieberman (US Senator of Connecticut)

  • Sonny Perdue (Governor of Georgia)

  • George Allen (former US Senator of Virginia)

  • Matt Blunt (Governor of Missouri)

  • some other US Senator, congressman

  • some other Governor

  • some dark horse like Dick Cheney


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Well, if he is planning on running for 2 terms, he probably just killed his second term chances. ie: George Bush......

Because there is no way that we are not going to get some tax hikes somewhere in those first 4 years.
 
NYT: McCain gets ad money's worth
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25938013/
If McCain is happy with the press proving that he's no better than Bush, Well who am I to argue?, More power to him.:up:

If it was me though I'd be a bit upset about spending millions on ads that are made to make Obama look bad but end up making me look like a childish fool.

But that's just me.

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That is the one thing that McCain has done wrong, that goes beyond all else he has done wrong in this campaign. He has not distanced himself from Bush. THAT will kill his independent vote which is what he needs to win this election.

It's just stupid that he could not figure that out.
 
In White House Race, Twice As Many Voters Uncommitted Compared to Four Years Ago

When given a choice between Barack Obama and John McCain for President, 14% of voters are uncommitted. That figure includes 6% who say they’d vote for some other candidate and 8% who are undecided.

But, while much has been made of John McCain’s struggles with his party’s conservative base, 33% of the uncommitted voters are Democrats while only 19% are Republicans. Forty-eight percent (48%) are not affiliated with either major political party. These results are from national telephone survey interviews conducted with 14,000 Likely Voters during the two weeks ending July 24. The sample includes 2,028 uncommitted voters.

It’s worth noting that there are far more uncommitted voters at this point in Election 2008 than there were four years ago. The Election 2004 Presidential Tracking Poll showed that 92% of voters were committed to either President Bush or Senator Kerry on July 24, 2004. Only 8% were uncommitted.

This year, 37% of the uncommitted voters plan to vote for a Democratic Congressional candidate while 22% say they’ll vote for the GOP. But, when asked which way they’re leaning in the race for the White House, 26% say McCain and 19% say Obama. Twenty percent (20%) say they still prefer a third-party candidate.

Uncommitted Republicans are far more likely to lean towards McCain than uncommitted Democrats are to lean towards Obama.

Full crosstabs are available for Premium Members. A demographic profile of the uncommitted voters is also available.

This analysis is based upon polling data collected during the two weeks ending July 24. For the overall sample, Obama had 44% to 42% advantage. With leaners, the results were Obama 47% to 45%. Current results are available at the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

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Thirty percent (30%) of conservative Democrats say they’re voting for John McCain. Rasmussen Reports data also shows the Republican hopeful picking up support from 19% of White Democrats and 15% of Democrats over the age of 50. These results are from national telephone survey interviews conducted with 14,000 Likely Voters during the two weeks ending July 24. The sample includes 5,074 Democratic voters.

The data shows that 43% of Democrats consider themselves politically liberal, 37% say they’re moderate, and 18% are conservative.

Forty-one percent (41%) of conservative Democrats have a favorable opinion of John McCain. Sixty-seven percent (67%) say the same about Obama.

Among liberal Democrats, just 23% have a positive opinion about McCain, but 90% give Obama favorable reviews.

Obama is supported by 78% of Democrats overall, a figure that includes 62% of conservative Democrats. He leads 84% to 13% among Democrats under 30. But, among those over 65, Obama earns just 74% of the vote while McCain is preferred by 16% of Democratic senior citizens. It is interesting to note that just 2% of Democrats under 30 hold back from selecting either Obama or McCain. That number grows to 9% among Democrats over 65. Full crosstabs are available for Premium Members.

While Obama is losing some Democratic voters, he begins with a significant advantage over McCain by virtue of the fact that there are far more Democrats in the country than Republicans.

Overall, there are twice as many uncommitted voters at this point in Election 2008 as there were four years ago. An analysis released yesterday showed that there are more Democrats than Republicans in the uncommitted category, but that they are leaning more towards McCain than Obama.



Source: Rasmussen Reports

This is what the campaigns should be looking at......

The direction that the McCain campaign is going will, IMO, guarantee them a loss of these voters on a daily basis.
 
McCain Ad Compares Obama to Britney Spears.
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/obama-compared-to-spears-hilton/27063

I'm sure this is old, but I wonder if McCain even knows who Spears is.

It's not too old Geo! :cwink:

McCain is catching **** for sinking to this level. Obama has already created a response ad that basically is a b**** slap right in the face.

This ad is playing in Ohio. I just saw it on tv for the first time, a few minutes ago.
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I think they both showed bad judgment in this situation, and they are both getting on my freaking nerves.
 
New York Times Writes Scathing Response to McCain's "Race Card" Charges
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0708/Times_ed_board_McCain_move_racially_tinged.html?showall

[T]here was something surreal, and offensive, about today’s soundbite from the campaign of Senator John McCain.

The presumptive Republican nominee has embarked on a bare-knuckled barrage of negative advertising aimed at belittling Mr. Obama. The most recent ad compares the presumptive Democratic nominee for president to Britney Spears and Paris Hilton — suggesting to voters that he’s nothing more than a bubble-headed, publicity-seeking celebrity.

The ad gave us an uneasy feeling that the McCain campaign was starting up the same sort of racially tinged attack on Mr. Obama that Republican operatives, some of whom work for Mr. McCain now, ran against Harold Ford, a black candidate for Senate in Tennessee in 2006. That assault, too, began with videos juxtaposing Mr. Ford with young, white women.

Mr. Obama called Mr. McCain on the ploy, saying, quite rightly, that the Republicans are trying to scare voters by pointing out that he “doesn’t look like all those other Presidents on those dollar bills.’’

But Rick Davis, Mr. McCain’s campaign manager, had a snappy answer. “Barack Obama has played the race card, and he played it from the bottom of the deck,” he said. “It’s divisive, negative, shameful and wrong.’’

The retort was, we must say, not only contemptible, but shrewd. It puts the sin for the racial attack not on those who made it, but on the victim of the attack.

It also — and we wish this were coincidence, but we doubt it — conjurs up another loaded racial image.

The phrase dealing the race card “from the bottom of the deck” entered the national lexicon during the O.J. Simpson saga. Robert Shapiro, one of Mr. Simpson’s lawyers, famously declared of himself, Johnny Cochran and the rest of the Simpson defense team, “Not only did we play the race card, we dealt it from the bottom of the deck.”
 
I personally do not think the "celeb" ad was intentionally racist by juxtaposing Obama with "white women." I think it was a slimey, underhanded misleading piece of propoganda that compares the self-made head of the Harvard Law Review to airhead ****e-ish pop stars/heirs.

I find that since McCain has taken Karl Rove's people into confidence since the beginning of the month his campaign has gone to complete character assassination and playing dirty, dirty, insulting politics. The "He would rather lose a war than a political campaign," Obama has no "clear vision for America," the celebrity ad and claiming Obama is for foreign oil, when is proposed policies actually support looking for alternatives, while McCain's rest on pandering to ignorance with quick fixes that would do nothing but perpetuate our dependence on (foreign) oil.

I watched the three Obama clips. I'm not sure I'd call it race baiting, but I think it was leaving it open to set McCain up. He was being humorous and listed a number of things he has been attacked on (including the middle name which Fox News does about five times a day), but used the words "MCain says" and made humor about being different. McCain took the bait and completely overreacted with his whole racial spill.

It is contrived outrage and McCain is now looking as dirty in JULY '08 as Bush did in the '04 and '00 elections (including when targeting McCain himself with the "black baby" lies in South Carolina). McCain has sold his principles completely now by agreeing with Bush on things he knows is wrong, pandering instead of giving us "straight talk" on energy policy and now acting like Bush/Rove in dirty underhanded politics.

I've lost a lot of respect for the man this month. I wasn't going to vote for him, but until now I always liked him. Oh well.
 
if Obama stays above this level of campaigning i think he'll win.

its a fine line to walk when he responds to these ads. so far im satisfied with how hes responded. at this point the second an attack on McCain goes sour... i think it will hurt Obama much more than a failed attack hurts john McCain. its the same with Gaffes, John is impervious to these mistatements where they would deconstruct Obama should he say those sorts of mistatements
 
My God... If McCain wins, I dunno what I'll do...

I think I'd be so frustrated, I'd post the most scathing youtube video I can muster :cmad:
 
John McCain's idea of "straight talk" and "focusing on the issues" and running a "civil" campaign appear to be very, very different from mine. Like....the opposite. Disappointing. I thought he was better than this crap. Apparently not.

jag

John McCain is the same old politics. I know that's an Obama tagline, but it is honestly true...
 
John McCain is the same old politics. I know that's an Obama tagline, but it is honestly true...

Oh, I've always seen that out of him. I just had hope that he wouldn't go this idiotic negative route like he has.

jag
 
Oh, I've always seen that out of him. I just had hope that he wouldn't go this idiotic negative route like he has.

jag

He has to do something to stay in the headlines.
 
I just saw the new ad.

The last time a presidential candidate talked about the skies opening up and divine intervention coming down, things didn't work out so well for her. :whatever:

I think, if anything, the new ad reveals the level of disdain and jealousy in the McCain camp. They seem to be really frustrated by "The One."

:lmao:
 
He has to do something to stay in the headlines.

Holy crap! Thanks Marx. This was like a revelation, a bullet to my head.

I've been racking my brain trying to figure out what McCain is thinking with these silly attack ads, while at the same time just gasping at how poor his campaign is overall, and I just figured it out...

McCain has singularly failed to grab the headlines away from Obama... until now. The negative attack ads are getting McCain a lot of attention, regardless of the legitamicy of the ads.
 
Holy crap! Thanks Marx. This was like a revelation, a bullet to my head.

I've been racking my brain trying to figure out what McCain is thinking with these silly attack ads, while at the same time just gasping at how poor his campaign is overall, and I just figured it out...

McCain has singularly failed to grab the headlines away from Obama... until now. The negative attack ads are getting McCain a lot of attention, regardless of the legitamicy of the ads.

John McCain is trying to play himself off as a victim of Obama's celebrity. To be honest with you, I've grown quite tired of the whole "nobody wants to pay attention to me so I'm go through everything I can at the wall and see what sticks" nonsense.

McCain is really annoying me.
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