The Negative Outlook thread

[SolarTiger]

well it seems the plague known as Fox has consumed Street Fighter, after watching the trailer for The Legend of Chun Li, my hope for that movie hit an all time low.

And alot of people are saying it was familar to the Dragonball Trailer.

 

[Antrax255]

The Street Fighter Trailer looks any old revenge movie.

 

[Steyin]

I think I will be boycotting FOX now. Their impact on the Watchmen film was the last straw. Not to say WB isn't at fault in any way, but just the way I've been disappointed with every adaption and film of theirs for a while, more so since X3, I'm just sick of throwing money at them.

DB looks like garbage. TLoCL doesn't look like its SF related in any way (minus A mask and claws for Vega), the FF movies were okay but very lacking, same with X-Men films, and so on. And Wolverine looks like another build up of something that looks pretty but will end in disappointment. If FOX isn't putting the effort in then ****'em.

 

[MrMadisonIV]

and what exactly do you need... you know.... I really want to hear you guy's bright ideas...you're so confident that a 100% faithful movie will be a grand slam... let's hear what you would do?

#1, it doesn't have to be 100% faithful. of course there are changes that would need to be made (like no talking animals)but it needs to be more faithful than it is. I've seen the script by Ben Ramsey, and if that is indeed what they are filming, it is HORRIBLE.

in my movie, Goku would NOT be an "awkward video-game geek high school kid who is too shy to talk to the girl he likes and is bullied". Piccolo would not "take his vengeance on the earth" by using ONE dragonball to cause big explosions. Bulma would not be a super-badass soldier who calls everyone a "****" or a "*****" every 5 seconds.

and thirdly, it wouldn't be set in the Dragonball Series. it'd be set in Dragon Ball Z, right at the beginning.


Prologue with a voice-over, talking about Goku landing on the planet, being raised by Gohan, meeting Bulma and searching for the Dragonballs.

leading up to the first live action. Goku Vs Piccolo Jr. in the World Martial Arts Tournament. This is the end of this particular fight. Goku wins, Piccolo leaves to train further in order to beat Goku.

Title Sequence here. Dragon Ball Z: The Saiyan Saga

flash forward 5 years, Goku returns to Kame house to introduce his son, Gohan to Roshi, Krillin and company. Here we meet the whole crew. Krillin, Bulma, Tien, Yamcha, Roshi, Chi-Chi, etc.

Raditz arrives, revealing Goku's heritage, and whupping on Goku a little bit.

Piccolo Arrives, seemingly to challenge Goku again, but instead decides to team up against Raditz. the duo barely wins thanks to sudden interference from Gohan, Goku dies in the process. It's revealed that Goku can be brought back to life via the Dragonballs. Raditz transmits this info to the other Saiyans through his communicator, and taunts Piccolo about it saying the other Saiyans will be there in 3 years. Piccolo kills Raditz and takes Gohan.

Goku is wished back to life with the dragonballs. Kami arrives, and assures Goku that no harm will come to Gohan, and suggests that he go see King Kai for further training. Goku does that and upon arriving is shocked to find that King Kai's palace has 10 times the normal gravity, and that King Kai is an eccentric little chubby man, and not the physically toned Martial Arts expert he was expecting.

Training Montage! Piccolo trains Gohan harshly. Krillin, Yamcha, and Tien train with Kami, the "Guardian of Earth" as well. Goku trains with King Kai. There he learns the Kaioken and the Spirit Bomb.

The Saiyans arrive and utterly demolish the city in which they land. Yamcha, Krillin, and Tien meet them.

Yamcha, Krillin, and Tien struggle to contain Nappa. Yamcha dies.

Piccolo arrives with Gohan, and steps in. Nappa and Vegeta both recognize Piccolo as a Namekian, which shocks everyone else except Piccolo. Piccolo confirms this, then reveals that Kami is his twin, and is the one who created the Dragonballs on Earth, and that there were a set of Dragonballs on their home planet of Namek as well.

Piccolo gives Nappa all he can handle. and in a fit of rage, Nappa fires a ki blast at Gohan. Piccolo takes the blast for Gohan, and dies shortly thereafter.

Goku rushes to the scene and finds Gohan standing up to Nappa, Piccolo and Yamcha dead, and everyone else badly injured. He confronts Nappa. Since his power level is Over 9000, he beats Nappa easily.

Vegeta kills Nappa ruthlessly.

and then it is on. Goku vs. Vegeta, round 1. They fight to a standstill, and Vegeta uses Oozaru to tip the scales, and nearly kills Goku. Krillin cuts off his tail, and Goku uses the last of his strength to summon a Spirit Bomb and gives it to Krillin. Krillin throws the spirit bomb at Vegeta and Vegeta is beaten. Krillin goes to kill him, and Goku tells him not to.

Vegeta crawls to his spaceship and leaves.

flash-forward a month or so. Goku is in the hospital recovering from his injuries, and the gang is mourning the losses suffered at the hands of the Saiyans. They discuss how Piccolo and Kami are linked, so that if one dies, the other dies as well, and for that reason the Dragonballs do not work anymore. It is mentioned that there are another set of Dragonballs on Piccolo/Kami's home planet, Namek. Bulma, Krillin, and Gohan resolve to travel there and find them and make everything right.

The Movie ends with a battered Vegeta arriving at Frieza's Warship to recuperate, and Frieza (off screen, voice only) giving the order for his Warship to fly to Namek, having heard Piccolo's comments regarding the Dragonballs there.

You telling me that they could not film what I've typed above?

no, it's not 100% faithful, but it is a LOT moreso than what they are filming now. the changes I've made here are not anywhere near as bad as what they are going with. I've taken out the "Otherworld" and everything to do with it, as I don't really think such a thing would work in Movie form, and therefore I've moved Goku's training with King Kai into the real world. that's really the biggest change I've made, and I think I'm alright with that, but could be convinced otherwise. oh and took Yajirobe out, because I think he's an utterly useless character.

everything else is minor changes that don't affect the tone of the movie, nor the depiction of the characters.

and just a note, I wrote this going off of memory, without going back and really studying the Saga in detail.

anyhow, there's my bright idea. where's yours?

 

[SsM]

#1, it doesn't have to be 100% faithful. of course there are changes that would need to be made (like no talking animals)but it needs to be more faithful than it is. I've seen the script by Ben Ramsey, and if that is indeed what they are filming, it is HORRIBLE.

in my movie, Goku would NOT be an "awkward video-game geek high school kid who is too shy to talk to the girl he likes and is bullied". Piccolo would not "take his vengeance on the earth" by using ONE dragonball to cause big explosions. Bulma would not be a super-badass soldier who calls everyone a "****" or a "*****" every 5 seconds.

and thirdly, it wouldn't be set in the Dragonball Series. it'd be set in Dragon Ball Z, right at the beginning.


Prologue with a voice-over, talking about Goku landing on the planet, being raised by Gohan, meeting Bulma and searching for the Dragonballs.

leading up to the first live action. Goku Vs Piccolo Jr. in the World Martial Arts Tournament. This is the end of this particular fight. Goku wins, Piccolo leaves to train further in order to beat Goku.

Title Sequence here. Dragon Ball Z: The Saiyan Saga

flash forward 5 years, Goku returns to Kame house to introduce his son, Gohan to Roshi, Krillin and company. Here we meet the whole crew. Krillin, Bulma, Tien, Yamcha, Roshi, Chi-Chi, etc.

Raditz arrives, revealing Goku's heritage, and whupping on Goku a little bit.

Piccolo Arrives, seemingly to challenge Goku again, but instead decides to team up against Raditz. the duo barely wins thanks to sudden interference from Gohan, Goku dies in the process. It's revealed that Goku can be brought back to life via the Dragonballs. Raditz transmits this info to the other Saiyans through his communicator, and taunts Piccolo about it saying the other Saiyans will be there in 3 years. Piccolo kills Raditz and takes Gohan.

Goku is wished back to life with the dragonballs.

Training Montage! Piccolo trains Gohan. Krillin, Yamcha, and Tien train with Kami, the "Guardian of Earth" as well. Goku travels to the far end of the earth to train with King Kai. There he learns the Kaioken and the Spirit Bomb.

The Saiyans arrive and utterly demolish the city in which they land. Yamcha, and Tien meet them, while Bulma and Krillin round up the last of the Dragonballs.

Yamcha, and Tien struggle to contain Nappa. Yamcha dies.

Piccolo arrives with Gohan, and steps in. Nappa and Vegeta both recognize Piccolo as a Namekian, which shocks everyone else except Piccolo. Piccolo confirms this, then reveals that Kami is his twin, and is the one who created the Dragonballs on Earth, and that there were a set of Dragonballs on their home planet of Namek as well.

Piccolo gives Nappa all he can handle. and in a fit of rage, Nappa fires a ki blast at Gohan. Piccolo takes the blast for Gohan, and dies.

Goku rushes to the scene and finds Gohan standing up to Nappa and everyone else bandly injured. He confronts Nappa. Since his power level is Over 9000, he beats Nappa easily.

Vegeta kills Nappa ruthlessly.

and then it is on. Goku vs. Vegeta, round 1. They fight to a standstill, and Vegeta uses Oozaru to tip the scales, and nearly kills Goku. Krillin cuts off his tail, and Goku uses the last of his strength to summon a Spirit Bomb and gives it to Krillin. Krillin throws the spirit bomb at Vegeta and Vegeta is beaten. Krillin goes to kill him, and Goku tells him not to.

Vegeta crawls to his spaceship and leaves.

flash-forward a month or so. Goku is in the hospital recovering from his injuries, and the gang is mourning the losses suffered at the hands of the Saiyans. They discuss how Piccolo and Kami are linked, so that if one dies, the other dies as well, and for that reason the Dragonballs do not work anymore. It is mentioned that there are another set of Dragonballs on Piccolo/Kami's home planet, Namek. Bulma, Krillin, and Gohan resolve to travel there and find them and make everything right.

The Movie ends with a battered Vegeta arriving at Frieza's Warship to recuperate, and Frieza (off screen, voice only) giving the order for his Warship to fly to Namek, having heard Piccolo's comments regarding the Dragonballs there.

You telling me that they could not film what I've typed above?

no, it's not 100% faithful, but it is a LOT moreso than what they are filming now. the changes I've made here are not anywhere near as bad as what they are going with. I've taken out the "Otherworld" and everything to do with it, as I don't really think such a thing would work in Movie form, and therefore I've moved Goku's training with King Kai into the real world. that's really the biggest change I've made, and I think I'm alright with that, but could be convinced otherwise. oh and took Yajirobe out, because I think he's an utterly useless character.

everything else is minor changes that don't affect the tone of the movie, nor the depiction of the characters.

and just a note, I wrote this going off of memory, without going back and really studying the Saga in detail.

anyhow, there's my bright idea. where's yours?

I would be totally down with this Plot outline.

 

[Deadlock04]

i like the part of traveling to the end of the world to find king kai you need dragonball to tell dbz even if there is a flashback prologue that won't be enough to tell the whole story audience will still find it confusing.

 

[Deadlock04]

now my own pitch at a script DRAGONBALL Z: Arrival
it starts off with the narrator talking about the first movie. 7 years later, on the open road we see a car driving by. chichi is on the wheel, gohan is on the backsit studying, and goku in the passenger's seating sulking "i don't understand why we couldn't have the nimbus take us, we would be on turtle island half the time".
chichi responds about them being a normal family having a casual drive and how ridiculous and freaky it would be flying on puff of cloud.as she rambles on about being normal, goku turns his attention to his son asking him if he agrees about the nimbus being better. chichi then intterupts him, telling him how gohan should focus on his study and him listenig to what she said. "sorry honey"
chichi: honestly.
scene changes to turtle island where roshi, yamcha and krillin help bulma bring in buffet food she was bringing out of the car. bulma sits down and talks about them having the air ticket they need to travel to the world martial arts tornament.
bulma "where is goku, he is late, they should be here by now" just then they hear a car approaching everyone runs outside to meet goku and the family. chichi and bulma greet eachother like best friends the same as goku and yamcha.
roshi"boy gohan you sure have gotten taller the last time i met you"
gohan"hi master roshi"
bulma "so what took you guys so long to get here?"
goku (happily oblivious) well we were going to come by nimbus but chichi wanted to drive like normal people"
while everyone else is talking, krillin steps in "so you're goku right, master roshi have told me alot about you, and how you are his best student my name is krillin his next best student.
roshi: he comes from the (something) monk village from the east to train under me.
goku "hold on master roshi, i thought you said you wouldn't train anyone else and retire.
roshi:well retirement was too boring for me"
krillin"actually, i bribed him with some porno magazines and videos"
yamcha" (laughing with goku and krillin) that is so roshi you haven't changed at all.

as the sun sets, everyone is inside digging into the buffet, goku being the pig stuffs his mouth with food while gohan eats casually (because his mother was 5 feet away from him with bulma) yamcha leans in on goku " so goku, is gohan learning martial arts like his dad?
Goku"not really, chichi doesn't want him becoming a fighter. she wants him to be an orthopedist"
yamcha (with krillin) whoa so that's why he reads a lot. goku whispers "but sometimes i usually sneak him out and teach him some moves"
as everyone is talking master roshi comes out with and gift for bulma.
bulma"wow master roshi, i didn't know you could be so considerate"
Roshi" yeah well 8 years can change a man, so open it" bulma rips open the gift and everone is surprised to see bulma pull out a bunny suit
Roshi " i hope it's not too much to ask but can i see you in it?'
bulma throws it at his face "hell the **** no!!" everyone burst out laughing
krillin"i told you that would never work"
as everyone is still laughing krillin asks goku to talk with him outside. as both of them skips stones krillin asks him if he really did beat piccolo.
goku" yeah he was pretty hard and very strong"
krillin "so it true well guess i have to thank you alot"
goku" um why?"
Krillin " well you see, me and evryone in my village was killed be piccolo's demons. it was scary really to think i would die so young without venturing out into the world, having a family and competing in the world martial arts tornament. but you used the dragonball to wish me back to life so in a way you saved me and gave me a chance at life again. i owe you my life that is why i came to master roshi to train to become as strong as you so one else has to die unfairly"
goku" you get strong i know"
krillin"we're going to be competing in the tournament tomorrow there i'm going to show how strong i really am and don't think i will go easy on you if i was to fight you"
goku" i don't want it any other way. goku picks up a stone and throws it so fast that it raises a wave.
krillin (shocked) holy ****!!
both of them laugh at eachother. it is fully night now
Yamcha " hey guys you better get to bed soon we'll be leaving early in the morning. the lights in the turtle house goes off. (end scene)

 

[Deadlock04]

(continuation) it is midday at the world martial arts tournament, goku is spectating krillin in the final preliminaries as he fights a muscle bound man with a strong odor but strangly krillin is not affected by this and easily dispatches the odor man. "wow krillin not bad"
"yeah thanks i feel a little light headed" goku"don't worry we will get something to eat after yamcha is done. suddenly the screen announces the winner of the final preliminary and it's TIEN. goku and krillin rush to yamcha as the medical team take him out of the ring.
"yamcha are you okay anything hurt?"
"just my leg and my pride"
krillin "i don't believe it, yamcha lost? to whom"
the duo look at the ring to find a tall built man is a green gi looking back at them and particullaly goku then he turns his attention to a little mute boy who he sweeps up his feet and unto his back. this is tien shinha, an x-member of the crane school. due to some arguement with his master, he and choatzu why exiled. they compete in the tournament in order to get the prize and make a living.
after him and goku give off a few words he leaves.

far away from the tournament, in a huge dense forest at night, 2 hunters a settling in for the night when they look up a the star to find one of these stars getting closer and closer. they strange star crashes about 1 mile away from them, shaking the earth. out of curiosity both hunter make their way to the crash site to find out this is no star but a pod. the pod finally opens and a mysterious muscle man with a shoulder length hair steps out and leviates out of the crash and land directly in front of the hunters. scared ****less one of the hunters tries to shoot him but the stranger catches the bullet and flings it at him, killing him. the other takes off into the woods
stranger"so the people of this planet are still alive" he stretches out his hand and fires an energy blast directly at the fleer. "kakarot has falied"
this is raditz, a mysterious alien with hightech suit and a strange device on his left eye.

 

[Cartman Blues]

Look what happened to the precious Negative Outlook thread.

 

[MrMadisonIV]

Look what happened to the precious Negative Outlook thread.

just waiting for that know-it-all that put out the "let's see your bright ideas" challenge to respond to mine.

 

[SolarTiger]

Look what happened to the precious Negative Outlook thread.

Look at how many pages the Positive thread has.

 

[StylishHokie21]

just waiting for that know-it-all that put out the "let's see your bright ideas" challenge to respond to mine.

She shouldn't even be posting in here anyways. This is the negative thread. Next time it happens, she's reported.

 

[StylishHokie21]

There is no exact quote, but it works both ways. DO NOT come here praising this or questioning those who don't like what they see. Pretty simple.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

It works the other way also. Optimists can't come here to give a speech about keeping a positive mental attitude.

 

[StylishHokie21]

You're right. Just keep that in mind people.

 

[SolarTiger]

Cartman has done this like three times now? I don't think it's accidental anymore.

 

[StylishHokie21]

Well...I'm sure he knows the consequences if he does it again.

 

[Cartman Blues]

It works the other way also. Optimists can't come here to give a speech about keeping a positive mental attitude.

I wasn't giving a speech about positive stuff.
I was stating that someone else was turning this thread into a fan fiction thread.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

...Okay? Lol. I was talking to everyone.

 

[huzzah]

I like MrMadison's and Deadlocks scenarios.

 

[MrMadisonIV]

I was stating that someone else was turning this thread into a fan fiction thread.

my apologies for that.

but I believe in responding to challenges, such as "let's hear your big idea if you don't like the movie."

those sorts of challenges are the only recourse for people with no realistically credible defense of what looks to be a crappy adaptation.

i notice that whats-his-face hasn't come back into the thread, but has posted in a couple of others.

 

[StylishHokie21]

She's not coming back, so I wouldn't worry too much.

 

[BestGirl]

She's not coming back, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Was she banned for being rude to people who don't like the movie?

 

[RED-RAIN]

I suppose the pig like being is not in this movie either...

are we still talking about tom rothman?? lol..nah i wouldnt expect the oolong to make it in

 

[StylishHokie21]

Was she banned for being rude to people who don't like the movie?

I think so. She loved coming into this thread badgering other posters who didn't like what they were seeing. She had already been warned many times about this, too. Oh well! What's done is done.

Anyways...what is the number one thing you guys hate about this movie so far?