The Negative Outlook thread

[BestGirl]

Anyways...what is the number one thing you guys hate about this movie so far?

There are lots of things but I'm going to go with how cheap it seems. It looks as though it were made on a shoestring budget.

 

[huzzah]

I think so. She loved coming into this thread badgering other posters who didn't like what they were seeing. She had already been warned many times about this, too. Oh well! What's done is done.

Anyways...what is the number one thing you guys hate about this movie so far?

It's difficult to pick the number one thing but I'm finding it hard to sympathise with or like the main characters. If they were all killed off, apart from Picollo, I wouldn't be bothered. t:

 

[BestGirl]

It's difficult to pick the number one thing but I'm finding it hard to sympathise with or like the main characters. If they were all killed off, apart from Picollo, I wouldn't be bothered. t:

Ouch!

 

[MrMadisonIV]

from what I remember about the proposed script by Ben Ramsey....

Spoiler

Bulma's dialogue. omg it's horrible.

every other word is "that *****" or "that ****". and a few "****es" and "skanks" thrown in for good measure.

Goku being a video game geek that gets bullied in high school, and is too shy to talk to some random girl that was invented for the movie.

Bulma being a super bad-ass soldier chick. she's basically a foul-mouthed marine.

the whole video game thing.

not sure if I should have put that in spoilers or not, but i did just incase.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Anyways...what is the number one thing you guys hate about this movie so far?

Goku not feeling like Goku. i could forgive everything else if they had just gotten Goku right...but they didn't even pick the ball up to be able to drop it. from the moment they announced Chatwin as Goku i knew this movie was going to turn out the way it is.

 

[Majin...]

I think so. She loved coming into this thread badgering other posters who didn't like what they were seeing. She had already been warned many times about this, too. Oh well! What's done is done.

Anyways...what is the number one thing you guys hate about this movie so far?

Who are you talking about?

 

[SolarTiger]

Who are you talking about?

Kaypain.

 

[BestGirl]

Goku not feeling like Goku. i could forgive everything else if they had just gotten Goku right...but they didn't even pick the ball up to be able to drop it. from the moment they announced Chatwin as Goku i knew this movie was going to turn out the way it is.

After rewatching the trailer I might have to change my vote to Chatwin. I forgot how dull he was. I think every line of his was delivered in a monotone. I hope he's a thousand times more interesting and charismatic in the movie itself.

 

[StylishHokie21]

There are lots of things but I'm going to go with how cheap it seems. It looks as though it were made on a shoestring budget.

That's the vibe I seem to be getting as well.

 

[the a1ant]

It's scary when DRAGONBALL looks to have the quality of STREET FIGHTER: LEGEND OF CHUN LI. What is FOX thinking with how they treat these properties!?!?

 

[StylishHokie21]

Goku not feeling like Goku. i could forgive everything else if they had just gotten Goku right...but they didn't even pick the ball up to be able to drop it. from the moment they announced Chatwin as Goku i knew this movie was going to turn out the way it is.

Agreed. He might look like Goku, but I'm willing to bet Chatwin never even watched DB or read the manga. He just looks like he's sleep walking through this.

 

[Cartman Blues]

I have only one big unexcusable problem with this film: Roshi not being perverted or humorous. If this isn't entirely true, than good. I HIGHLY doubt Goku is completely "emo" as some call him, but if so....bleh.

 

[SatEL]

Agreed. He might look like Goku, but I'm willing to bet Chatwin never even watched DB or read the manga. He just looks like he's sleep walking through this.

He doesnt look like Goku.

 

[StylishHokie21]

I'd say he does even though he looks ridiculous. Actually...scratch that. The whole movie looks ridiculous.

 

[BestGirl]

What's DB's rumored budget? Does anyone know?

 

[AnorexicBatman]

I hope the director and writer of this movie is murdered and their heads put on stakes. Meanwhile...

Nolan: Hey Chatwin! You are my Robin/Nightwing.
Chatwin: HOORAY!

Superman Reboot director: Hey Masters! You are my Brainiac!
Masters: HOORAY!!

Why? Because they deserve it for being good actors in a ****** film!

 

[kyuubijavi1]

#1, it doesn't have to be 100% faithful. of course there are changes that would need to be made (like no talking animals)but it needs to be more faithful than it is. I've seen the script by Ben Ramsey, and if that is indeed what they are filming, it is HORRIBLE.

in my movie, Goku would NOT be an "awkward video-game geek high school kid who is too shy to talk to the girl he likes and is bullied". Piccolo would not "take his vengeance on the earth" by using ONE dragonball to cause big explosions. Bulma would not be a super-badass soldier who calls everyone a "****" or a "*****" every 5 seconds.

and thirdly, it wouldn't be set in the Dragonball Series. it'd be set in Dragon Ball Z, right at the beginning.


Prologue with a voice-over, talking about Goku landing on the planet, being raised by Gohan, meeting Bulma and searching for the Dragonballs.

leading up to the first live action. Goku Vs Piccolo Jr. in the World Martial Arts Tournament. This is the end of this particular fight. Goku wins, Piccolo leaves to train further in order to beat Goku.

Title Sequence here. Dragon Ball Z: The Saiyan Saga

flash forward 5 years, Goku returns to Kame house to introduce his son, Gohan to Roshi, Krillin and company. Here we meet the whole crew. Krillin, Bulma, Tien, Yamcha, Roshi, Chi-Chi, etc.

Raditz arrives, revealing Goku's heritage, and whupping on Goku a little bit.

Piccolo Arrives, seemingly to challenge Goku again, but instead decides to team up against Raditz. the duo barely wins thanks to sudden interference from Gohan, Goku dies in the process. It's revealed that Goku can be brought back to life via the Dragonballs. Raditz transmits this info to the other Saiyans through his communicator, and taunts Piccolo about it saying the other Saiyans will be there in 3 years. Piccolo kills Raditz and takes Gohan.

Goku is wished back to life with the dragonballs. Kami arrives, and assures Goku that no harm will come to Gohan, and suggests that he go see King Kai for further training. Goku does that and upon arriving is shocked to find that King Kai's palace has 10 times the normal gravity, and that King Kai is an eccentric little chubby man, and not the physically toned Martial Arts expert he was expecting.

Training Montage! Piccolo trains Gohan harshly. Krillin, Yamcha, and Tien train with Kami, the "Guardian of Earth" as well. Goku trains with King Kai. There he learns the Kaioken and the Spirit Bomb.

The Saiyans arrive and utterly demolish the city in which they land. Yamcha, Krillin, and Tien meet them.

Yamcha, Krillin, and Tien struggle to contain Nappa. Yamcha dies.

Piccolo arrives with Gohan, and steps in. Nappa and Vegeta both recognize Piccolo as a Namekian, which shocks everyone else except Piccolo. Piccolo confirms this, then reveals that Kami is his twin, and is the one who created the Dragonballs on Earth, and that there were a set of Dragonballs on their home planet of Namek as well.

Piccolo gives Nappa all he can handle. and in a fit of rage, Nappa fires a ki blast at Gohan. Piccolo takes the blast for Gohan, and dies shortly thereafter.

Goku rushes to the scene and finds Gohan standing up to Nappa, Piccolo and Yamcha dead, and everyone else badly injured. He confronts Nappa. Since his power level is Over 9000, he beats Nappa easily.

Vegeta kills Nappa ruthlessly.

and then it is on. Goku vs. Vegeta, round 1. They fight to a standstill, and Vegeta uses Oozaru to tip the scales, and nearly kills Goku. Krillin cuts off his tail, and Goku uses the last of his strength to summon a Spirit Bomb and gives it to Krillin. Krillin throws the spirit bomb at Vegeta and Vegeta is beaten. Krillin goes to kill him, and Goku tells him not to.

Vegeta crawls to his spaceship and leaves.

flash-forward a month or so. Goku is in the hospital recovering from his injuries, and the gang is mourning the losses suffered at the hands of the Saiyans. They discuss how Piccolo and Kami are linked, so that if one dies, the other dies as well, and for that reason the Dragonballs do not work anymore. It is mentioned that there are another set of Dragonballs on Piccolo/Kami's home planet, Namek. Bulma, Krillin, and Gohan resolve to travel there and find them and make everything right.

The Movie ends with a battered Vegeta arriving at Frieza's Warship to recuperate, and Frieza (off screen, voice only) giving the order for his Warship to fly to Namek, having heard Piccolo's comments regarding the Dragonballs there.

You telling me that they could not film what I've typed above?

no, it's not 100% faithful, but it is a LOT moreso than what they are filming now. the changes I've made here are not anywhere near as bad as what they are going with. I've taken out the "Otherworld" and everything to do with it, as I don't really think such a thing would work in Movie form, and therefore I've moved Goku's training with King Kai into the real world. that's really the biggest change I've made, and I think I'm alright with that, but could be convinced otherwise. oh and took Yajirobe out, because I think he's an utterly useless character.

everything else is minor changes that don't affect the tone of the movie, nor the depiction of the characters.

and just a note, I wrote this going off of memory, without going back and really studying the Saga in detail.

anyhow, there's my bright idea. where's yours?

Damn thats pretty good

 

[Orb]

What's DB's rumored budget? Does anyone know?

180 million.

 

[SolarTiger]

what's db's rumored budget? Does anyone know?

...100 million dollars!!!11

 

[Orb]

Anyway the only things I do't like are

Goku in School
Roshi character changed


More will come to me in a sec.

 

[BestGirl]

180 million.

I hope most of that was intended to be spent in post-production, because what we've seen so far doesn't warrant $180 million. The city blowing up was impressive though; we need to get more scenes like that in the movie.

 

[DorkyFresh]

180 mil is way off. rumor has it that it has a budget of around 100 mil but i'm inclined to think more like 75 to 80 mil.

 

[SolarTiger]

I hope most of that was intended to be spent in post-production, because what we've seen so far doesn't warrant $180 million. The city blowing up was impressive though; we need to get more scenes like that in the movie.

No it is 100 million but I think lot of the money was used to get it in production before the writers strike.

 

[BestGirl]

No it is 100 million but I think lot of the money was used to get it in production before the writers strike.

What would the money be spent on to get it into production faster?

I wish they wouldnt've rushed this into production. Dragonball is a franchise that needs to be treated with care if it's going to be brought to the big screen effectively.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

I have only one big unexcusable problem with this film: Roshi not being perverted or humorous. If this isn't entirely true, than good. I HIGHLY doubt Goku is completely "emo" as some call him, but if so....bleh.

Yeah. Roshi was one of those characters that, to me, didn't need to be recreated in any way. I would've loved to see the half-crazed wannabe-womanizer guru in live-action Dragonball. With turtle shell and all!