The New Ghostbusters - Part 10

[Kanon]

Again, if it shows evidence of good reception. That is a solid foundation to build on.

Yeah, the most important thing for a comeback is signs of people wanting more. If not a great box office, it could be mega legs, or great dvd sales.

 

[Quasimod0]

I saw this today and I was VERY pleasantly surprised. I ended up having a really good time with this. The chemistry between the 4 Ghostbusters was great. Also the humor was very on point (especially the stuff from Hemsworth, who was great!). I was laughing all throughout the film. I think it was just a pretty fun entertaining movie. I did not expect to like it very much.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I give it an 8/10.

 

[bluejake01]

https://www.facebook.com/TheCharacterShop/videos/1014133981967867/

Wonder if this link will work...anyway, this is the rubber Slimer mask and arms that I saw in action in the test screening.

 

[Marvolo]

Sony will say that for as long as the movie is in theaters/a new release on the DVD market. Remember, Superman Returns and F4 were getting sequels as well.

And Terminator Genysis was getting a sequel as well.

 

[Broseph44]

Remember when Amazing Spider-Man 2 was getting not 1 but 2 sequels? Remember that? Haha

 

[Marvolo]

Remember when Amazing Spider-Man 2 was getting not 1 but 2 sequels? Remember that? Haha

And spinoffs.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Still, they might choose to go with a different direction within the franchise instead of a direct sequel.

They want a franchise that works, not just anything

How could they franchise this though without a direct sequel? Part of the appeal is that not everyone is going to be able to build a proton pack.

 

[bluejake01]

How could they franchise this though without a direct sequel? Part of the appeal is that not everyone is going to be able to build a proton pack.

I'm serious when I say I would love to see a Ghostbusters International. They can also franchise Ghostbusters with spinoffs and even work in dimensional rifts that open up the possibility for the original Ghostbusters continuity to exist alongside the new continuity.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I'm serious when I say I would love to see a Ghostbusters International. They can also franchise Ghostbusters with spinoffs and even work in dimensional rifts that open up the possibility for the original Ghostbusters continuity to exist alongside the new continuity.

Based on some of the reviews, I feel like they would need to set up some rules around Ghost before they start bring in interdimensional travel.

I don't know about international. I wouldn't want this to feel like a bunch of
"Power Ranger" teams would be showing up.

 

[bluejake01]

Based on some of the reviews, I feel like they would need to set up some rules around Ghost before they start bring in interdimensional travel.

I don't know about international. I wouldn't want this to feel like a bunch of
"Power Ranger" teams would be showing up.

That's what the brand has been doing in comics and cartoons for years. I'm all for multiple teams.

I'm not sure what you mean about rules for the ghosts? The movie does a fine job explaining how the equipment works and what each gadget does. It explains why the ghosts are getting stronger and why they are able to manifest in a way that they can actually cause physical harm and damage.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I still dunno if I am seeing this movie, I watched the Murray cameo on YouTube to get an idea how I'd feel seeing this stuff, whether it would annoy me or whatever like I thought it may and All I really got from it was saddened that we never got a ghostbusters 3 as Murray still has it and clearly still has fun with it.

It wasn't a bad cameo even though I thought it went on for to long and seemed abit drawn out for what the pay off was.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I'm serious when I say I would love to see a Ghostbusters International. They can also franchise Ghostbusters with spinoffs and even work in dimensional rifts that open up the possibility for the original Ghostbusters continuity to exist alongside the new continuity.

My only fear is they will run this franchise into the ground, I mean while you could do some cool horror or ghost stories with the ghostbusters idea I do question how many times can you can do the same idea for universe building.

This isn't a super hero franchise where everyone has a different ability

 

[MadVillainy]

People really still thinking this is getting a direct sequel because Sony says so?

AS I said before it doesnt matter how desperate you are for a franchise; you're not going to make a direct sequel to a movie that underperforms (which this did opening weekend) and that has poor toy sales allegedly

All they and anyone hoping for a sequel can hope for is that home video/rental sales are good, that merchandise sales tick up, or that the movie has strong legs which I doubt it will with the competition.

I get wanting a sequel but you gotta look at the numbers. It's weird seeing people spin this with:
"SONY says it's getting a sequel"; which so many studios have promised that a certain movie will even after underperformance
"Audiences responded to this"; if they really did the box office and toy sales will reflect that
or "This is Paul Feig's biggest opening weekend"; which doesnt matter when youre going to have a hard time making back your budget.

Gotta look at the numbers, and looking at the numbers so far this wont get a direct sequel. We will have to see how it does in the following weeks. But it also would be stupid to try and make a spin off or build a GB universe. That's just silly.

 

[Sithborg]

The numbers aren't complete yet though. Feig has had some insane multipliers with his movies. And while I doubt this will do the same, even a smaller multiplier will be good enough for Sony.

 

[chaseter]

Star Trek this week and Suicide in 2 weeks. This won't have legs. Lights Out is getting good reviews and will pull in the counter programming crowd. Ice Age debuts. Plus, Pets is another kid option. I bet this lands at $20m this weekend and drops to #4 or #5. After this weekend, it will be pulling in under $15m its third week and will be dead week 4. That's not good legs. It won't even make its budget back WW.

 

[MadVillainy]

The numbers aren't complete yet though. Feig has had some insane multipliers with his movies. And while I doubt this will do the same, even a smaller multiplier will be good enough for Sony.

Of course this isn't complete I'm not saying it is. But it's still silly to bring up Feign previous multipliers. This has been brought up why it's silly a couple times now.

The competition is gonna rock this. The only thing this really has going for it is that it's the only big live action comedy for a while

 

[bluejake01]

Of course this isn't complete I'm not saying it is. But it's still silly to bring up Feign previous multipliers. This has been brought up why it's silly a couple times now.

The competition is gonna rock this. The only thing this really has going for it is that it's the only big live action comedy for a while

Austin Powers was a box office failure, but found its audience in the DVD market and got several sequels. Sony was also very, very smart with merchandising. They leveraged the renewed interest in the franchise to also sell classic Ghostbusters merch, and the tie ins and the Ecto coolers and the slime Twinkies are flying off the shelves. I wouldn't count on the box office being the only factor in how Sony moves forward.

The building of the Ghost Corps production company was built into the budget for the film, and was seen by the studio as an investment in future productions. There are factors that are almost anomalies in the industry which will certainly complicate the decision making process for the studio.

 

[chamber-music]

The DVD market is nowhere near as big as it was when Austin Powers came out.

 

[Mogwai]

This movie was great! Had and great time and couldn't stop laughing.

 

[bluejake01]

The DVD market is nowhere near as big as it was when Austin Powers came out.

Is that really all you got from two paragraphs?

Okay, since we are being pedantic...I wasn't implying that DVDs have the same market share as they did almost 20 years ago. I was saying that box office isn't the only revenue stream that a mass market franchise with multiple films can bring in.

Renewed interest in classic merchandise, increased classic blu-ray, digital media and DVD sales alone could be enough to keep Sony vested in keeping the brand relevant. Not to mention the investment they have made in a new production company. If Sony is smart they will be willing to play the long game and leverage the brand in new and diverse ways.

 

[MadVillainy]

Austin Powers was a box office failure, but found its audience in the DVD market and got several sequels. Sony was also very, very smart with merchandising. They leveraged the renewed interest in the franchise to also sell classic Ghostbusters merch, and the tie ins and the Ecto coolers and the slime Twinkies are flying off the shelves. I wouldn't count on the box office being the only factor in how Sony moves forward.

The building of the Ghost Corps production company was built into the budget for the film, and was seen by the studio as an investment in future productions. There are factors that are almost anomalies in the industry which will certainly complicate the decision making process for the studio.

Check my posts from before. I said home video and legs. The old merch selling doesn't matter much I think. If they took a loss or the GB16 toys didn't sell that'll sway them some way
They can boost old merch sales without a direct sequel to GB16

 

[bluejake01]

Check my posts from before. I said home video and legs. The old merch selling doesn't matter much I think. If they took a loss or the GB16 toys didn't sell that'll sway them some way
They can boost old merch sales without a direct sequel to GB16

The problem is they won't have all the final metrics and numbers in before contractual issues force them to make a decision regarding a sequel. In a lot of ways they will be rolling the dice and gambling. Sony will have to decide if they will double down with a sequel, focusing on repairing the damage done with bad marketing and relying on the fact that they can spend significantly less on the sequel, by cutting a lot of the development budget that went into building the world of GB16 and creating Ghost Corps. Conversely they could try letting time pass and sequel clauses slip by and try again in another few years.

 

[MadVillainy]

They will have the box office before the contractual obligations force them to make a choice about moving forward to a sequel
And they'll have the toy sales for the year by then too

Sony won't make a sequel of the box office isn't good and the toy sales arent good either. That's all there is to it. Unless the old merch is selling hottest products of the year good then that doesn't matter either.


No studios make direct sequels to movies that aren't successful. It's that simple. Which GB16 won't be if it continues the way it started

 

[bluejake01]

They will have the box office before the contractual obligations force them to make a choice about moving forward to a sequel
And they'll have the toy sales for the year by then too

Sony won't make a sequel of the box office isn't good and the toy sales arent good either. That's all there is to it. Unless the old merch is selling hottest products of the year good then that doesn't matter either.


No studios make direct sequels to movies that aren't successful. It's that simple. Which GB16 won't be if it continues the way it started

The financial success of the film is far more complicated in this case than just box office. Several times in the past studios have gambled with movies that had shakey box office, but other revenue factors.

 

[MadVillainy]

The financial success of the film is far more complicated in this case than just box office. Several times in the past studios have gambled with movies that had shakey box office, but other revenue factors.

I agree but box office plays a majority of the factor. And again as I said before home video and merchandise sales matter too. But the toys aren't selling well allegedly. The ecto cooler and all that is cool, but you really think they're going to make a direct sequel just to sell ecto cooler? They could've made serious bank off the ecto cooler if they just dropped it and fed into the 90s nostalgia that is so cool now.

Depending on what GB16 makes I doubt it crosses 240 mill overall.
That goes beyond "shakey" but that's speculation on my part

I can't think of a first in a potential franchise movie that got a direct sequel when the box office was as poor as GB16's looks like it will be. Unless the sequel was already in deep production or many years later if the movie makes waves