The New Ghostbusters - Part 7

[BeserkerHilf]

Sigourney Weaver Almost gets cut from the Repoop

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...r-returns-dead-ghostbusters-article-1.2635262


They ain’t afraid of no edits.

Footage is disappearing faster than ornery ghosts behind the scenes of the new “Ghostbusters” movie. Insiders close to the highly anticipated reboot of the 1984 classic tell Confidenti@l that no one is safe from the chopping block as director Paul Feig and his editing team make their final cuts.

Even Sigourney Weaver, the female lead in the first two “Ghostbuster” movies, nearly got slimed this week, according to one insider.

“Sigourney was out of this last edit and was then put back in,” we’re told. “Her involvement is not essential to the story, but she was returned to the final cut.”

We’re told that pressure over rebooting the 32-year-old comedy, which stars (from left) Kristen Wiig, Kate McKinnon, Melissa McCarthy and Leslie Jones, has some production workers spooked.

“There’s been a lot of recuts and editing in recent weeks as concerns are growing over the movie,” we’re told. Even Bill Murray, who had top billing in the Ivan Reitman version of the poltergeist-pursuing classic — and supposedly a small part in the new one — has insiders wondering how “Ghostbusters” will play with audiences when it opens on July 15. The 65-year-old living legend doesn’t appear in the film’s official trailer.

“Bill’s scenes have raised some eyebrows and many in the project are worried that the fans may turn against it before giving it a fair crack,” says our insider. “I’ve never been involved in a project with so many different edits, re-edits and story alterations.”

According to our spy, one scene unlikely to appear in the final cut is a musical number that wasn’t working out.

Even McCarthy, who plays ghostbuster Abby Yates, expressed confusion last week over a trailer for the film, where the creative team and marketing staff appear to have crossed their proverbial streams.

“It’s weird that they said the ‘30 years ago’ because in this movie, the first one didn’t happen,” she said on the Johnjay and Rich radio show. “It’s that great story, but told totally differently.”

Film reps did not respond to a request for comment.

This is a horribly and incoherently written article.

 

[bluejake01]

A musical number? WTF?

Possessed Thor makes Feds and army dance disco in downtown. It's as normal as sliming Lady Liberty and taking her for a walk with a Nintendo Power Pad.

 

[def28]

I don't think it being not normal is the issue.

That sounds exactly equivalent to Jim Carrey singing Cuban Pete and possessing cops. Which is too much in your face comedy, done famously in another film and again makes me worried they were not even trying to get the tone right here. Ghostbusters isn't The Mask.

 

[Mike_D202]

Possessed Thor makes Feds and army dance disco in downtown. It's as normal as sliming Lady Liberty and taking her for a walk with a Nintendo Power Pad.

NO, do NOT compare the two. Aside from the studio basically copying the original plot for GB2 last minute, they brought the statue of liberty into the climax to raise the positive energy of the new yorkers and get rid of the negativity to help save the city. Nobody danced in sequence like a music video.

This scene is talking about a direct sequence from The Mask. Or Glee. A threatening villain should not make people have a good time for chuckles.

 

[AllEights]

I did enjoy it, but it is also a flawed film, and there are several legitimate complaints that people will have once they have seen it...unless those flaws are addressed in the recent reshoots.

So wait, I knew they were doing final editing but reshoots have been confirmed? I can't think of anything that reshoots would help on this.

Sigourney Weaver Almost gets cut from the Repoop

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...r-returns-dead-ghostbusters-article-1.2635262


They ain’t afraid of no edits.

Footage is disappearing faster than ornery ghosts behind the scenes of the new “Ghostbusters” movie. Insiders close to the highly anticipated reboot of the 1984 classic tell Confidenti@l that no one is safe from the chopping block as director Paul Feig and his editing team make their final cuts.

Even Sigourney Weaver, the female lead in the first two “Ghostbuster” movies, nearly got slimed this week, according to one insider.

“Sigourney was out of this last edit and was then put back in,” we’re told. “Her involvement is not essential to the story, but she was returned to the final cut.”

We’re told that pressure over rebooting the 32-year-old comedy, which stars (from left) Kristen Wiig, Kate McKinnon, Melissa McCarthy and Leslie Jones, has some production workers spooked.

“There’s been a lot of recuts and editing in recent weeks as concerns are growing over the movie,” we’re told. Even Bill Murray, who had top billing in the Ivan Reitman version of the poltergeist-pursuing classic — and supposedly a small part in the new one — has insiders wondering how “Ghostbusters” will play with audiences when it opens on July 15. The 65-year-old living legend doesn’t appear in the film’s official trailer.

“Bill’s scenes have raised some eyebrows and many in the project are worried that the fans may turn against it before giving it a fair crack,” says our insider. “I’ve never been involved in a project with so many different edits, re-edits and story alterations.”

According to our spy, one scene unlikely to appear in the final cut is a musical number that wasn’t working out.

Even McCarthy, who plays ghostbuster Abby Yates, expressed confusion last week over a trailer for the film, where the creative team and marketing staff appear to have crossed their proverbial streams.

“It’s weird that they said the ‘30 years ago’ because in this movie, the first one didn’t happen,” she said on the Johnjay and Rich radio show. “It’s that great story, but told totally differently.”

Film reps did not respond to a request for comment.

Weaver would be lucky to escape the incoming mess. All of the cameos felt shoehorned in but hers especially.

A musical number? WTF?

Possessed Thor makes Feds and army dance disco in downtown. It's as normal as sliming Lady Liberty and taking her for a walk with a Nintendo Power Pad.

I don't think it being not normal is the issue.

That sounds exactly equivalent to Jim Carrey singing Cuban Pete and possessing cops. Which is too much in your face comedy, done famously in another film and again makes me worried they were not even trying to get the tone right here. Ghostbusters isn't The Mask.

NO, do NOT compare the two. Aside from the studio basically copying the original plot for GB2 last minute, they brought the statue of liberty into the climax to raise the positive energy of the new yorkers and get rid of the negativity to help save the city. Nobody danced in sequence like a music video.

This scene is talking about a direct sequence from The Mask. Or Glee. A threatening villain should not make people have a good time for chuckles.

Not only did the dance number not fit in the movie, the more I thought about it afterwards the more it made me cringe. If possible to dump it before release they should.

 

[bluejake01]

I was being sarcastic about the dance sequence. It does feel out of place, but I seem to recall it being very brief, and not a full musical number. It was more like, "hey, look what I can make these cops and soldiers do" of a moment.

 

[AllEights]

I wouldn't call it a musical number either and yeah it was brief but ultimately it was cringe inducing

 

[chaseter]

Way to completely miss the point. Not all of my examples are past transgressions, some of them are currently happening. Nor am I suggesting that Ghostbusters was wrong for having an all male team.

And yes little man child, plenty of people are complaining about female centric movies. Specifically, this one. If you have no problem with an all male team of Ghostbusters, then you should have no problem with an all female team.

How old are you?

 

[scifiwolf]

Musical numbers in comedy horror can be done well and be iconic. It may not have been a part of what was originally done in the first two Ghostbutsers movies, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be done moving forward. Music is a massive part of the Ghostbusters culture, so having a song-and-dance set piece actually makes sense.

 

[AllEights]

Yes it CAN be done well but this is not the case with this one. The scene just does not fit.

Aside from the RPJ Ghostbusters song being huge I wouldn't say that music is a massive part of GB culture.

 

[def28]

Yeah, I really don't think that's the right move for trying to get people onboard this take.

Based on the people who have seen it here and the article on it being cut, it sounds like it is cringe worthy. Even Tim Burton and Sam Raimi have had issues with adding song and dance numbers where they shouldn't be, and they arguably pull of the quirky humor stronger then anyone. It can take people out of the film.

 

[scifiwolf]

I don't think it would have been wrong. I won't even say that it doesn't fit in this movie because I haven't seen the scene or the film. It could not be working due to pacing. We just know they felt like it needed to be cut, so it was. We don't know why, and people need to stop projecting their fears and angers and frustrations into poorly-written reports. Cuts (including cameos) happen. Story alterations in the editing room happen. There's no reason to be nihilistic or judgmental because they're part of this film's process as well.

Once I start hearing reviews of the finished product that's actually being released, I may start worrying and rethinking paying for a ticket, or getting excited if the news is positive. Everything right now, good or bad, gets an "oh, that's interesting to hear" from me and that's it.

 

[def28]

Yes it CAN be done well but this is not the case with this one. The scene just does not fit.

Aside from the RPJ Ghostbusters song being huge I wouldn't say that music is a massive part of GB culture.

I was being sarcastic about the dance sequence. It does feel out of place, but I seem to recall it being very brief, and not a full musical number. It was more like, "hey, look what I can make these cops and soldiers do" of a moment.

Was the scene similar to The Masks humor? Like zany off the wall stuff?

Also I heard a rumor that...
[BLACKOUT]
They use the "choose the form of the destructor" moment in this. Does this work without it being Stay Puft and having Rays "just popped in there" moment? If they didn't want to use Stay Puft and are trying to stay away from comparisons I find it odd they are keepping that moment yet not use the character associated with it. [/BLACKOUT]

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Yes it CAN be done well but this is not the case with this one. The scene just does not fit.

Aside from the RPJ Ghostbusters song being huge I wouldn't say that music is a massive part of GB culture.

not trying to pick a fight, but i doubt any of these scenes would have had the impact without the chosen music/songs

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while yes i agree a full dance routine in the ilm may be out of place but to say the only song that had any effect on the film was the rp,jr is daft

 

[bluejake01]

Was the scene similar to The Masks humor? Like zany off the wall stuff?

Also I heard a rumor that...
[BLACKOUT]
They use the "choose the form of the destructor" moment in this. Does this work without it being Stay Puft and having Rays "just popped in there" moment? If they didn't want to use Stay Puft and are trying to stay away from comparisons I find it odd they are keepping that moment yet not use the character associated with it. [/BLACKOUT]

The scene was brief. They have Chris Hemsworth surrounded, he is on the marquee of a building and they are in the street. It was shot on the soundstage so lots of green screen...he forces them to dance while taunting them and showing them they have no power to stop him.

The rumor you mention...kinda...there is no Gozer, it's not like the original scene.

Spoiler

after Rowan leaves Chris Hemsworth's body he basically tells them he can become anything he wants, and I believe Patty suggests he become cute and harmless. He says "something like this?" And appears as the no ghosts badge. She says "yeah, like that" and he begins to grow and burst from the building. The climax is the hardest for me to judge because the CGI was still in the animatic stage for a lot of it...so the big action scenes were little more than rough rendered CGI storyboards and studio work.

 

[AllEights]

I don't think it would have been wrong. I won't even say that it doesn't fit in this movie because I haven't seen the scene or the film. It could not be working due to pacing. We just know they felt like it needed to be cut, so it was. We don't know why, and people need to stop projecting their fears and angers and frustrations into poorly-written reports. Cuts (including cameos) happen. Story alterations in the editing room happen. There's no reason to be nihilistic or judgmental because they're part of this film's process as well.

Once I start hearing reviews of the finished product that's actually being released, I may start worrying and rethinking paying for a ticket, or getting excited if the news is positive. Everything right now, good or bad, gets an "oh, that's interesting to hear" from me and that's it.

Well jake and I, while having a difference of opinion on the movie as a whole, both are not fond of the scene and we are going more than reports and descriptions.

Was the scene similar to The Masks humor? Like zany off the wall stuff?

Also I heard a rumor that...
[BLACKOUT]
They use the "choose the form of the destructor" moment in this. Does this work without it being Stay Puft and having Rays "just popped in there" moment? If they didn't want to use Stay Puft and are trying to stay away from comparisons I find it odd they are keepping that moment yet not use the character associated with it. [/BLACKOUT]

I don't know how else to describe it other than the scene you reference works in The Mask. Within context of GB 2016 and the antagonist showing off how he can control and possess everyone, it works in that function but comes off as cheesy, cringe inducing and unnecessary. He could've done anything else to show off this power. The scene seemed to be going for laughs and it missed.

Regarding your spoiler text - it didn't work for me and was another lazy, shoehorned callback to the original as fan service but with a slightly different spin so as not to come off as too lazy. jake may have a different take on it though.

not trying to pick a fight, but i doubt any of these scenes would have had the impact without the chosen music/songs

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[YT]FBOwtlqdVk4[/YT]

[YT]mNuG25oq_b0[/YT]

[YT]XgkhKVpKl_4[/YT]

[YT]oSqKVjVuW1I[/YT] (couldnt find the actual scene)



while yes i agree a full dance routine in the ilm may be out of place but to say the only song that had any effect on the film was the rp,jr is daft

The montage clip is just the iconic RPJ theme. Part of the movie like any other montage. When people look back and reflect on the movie I doubt they say “I loved the montage scene especially because of the theme playing underneath it.”

The second clip “The Sign”, great scene but that was not a good song, granted it fits the era of 80’s synth pop but even at the time no one raved about that song to rush out to get a Mick Smiley (note - had to Google) record because they heard that terrible song in the movie. They could’ve played “Twinkle Twinkle Little Star” under that scene and it still would’ve worked as a sum of its parts.

Same thing with the third clip – “Savin the Day” by the Alessi Brothers (another Google search). Not iconic. More 80’s synth pop. Works for the scene but like the second clip, a bed of farts would’ve performed the same function.

Clip 4 you are now venturing into GB2 territory. I am not one that dislikes that movie and I actually owned the soundtrack on cassette. But none of the songs, including the main Bobby Brown theme, which was popular as its own song, were huge or iconic like the RPJ theme. The soundtrack as a whole is another product of its time as it relied heavily on rap which was becoming more popular and mainstream at that time. Like many soundtracks, it was a grab a popular artist of the time shoehorn them in a song that can vaguely be identified in association with the movie. The capper was the Brown cameo in the movie.

I haven’t seen GB2 in quite a while so I can’t remember if Flip City was in the movie. Regardless, another song of its time. Sounds like all of Frey’s other terrible 80’s material.

Bottom line RPJ theme is iconic to the point where my kids know and enjoy it, their friends know it. It actually lives beyond GB because it’s a Halloween staple and people know the RPJ/Huey Lewis royalty trivia behind it. I would say the Bobby Brown song was popular and identifiable to some extent but not iconic. You really missed an important one in GB2 that I would lend some credence to which would be the playing of Higher and Higher to affect the mood of the city and getting the Statue of Liberty to move was important but if you asked someone to name the song or artist I doubt a lot of people would remember.

If you think any of these songs or clips (other than the obvious montage use of the GB theme) would easily or positively be associated with GB, maybe (not trying to pick a fight here either) I'm not the daft one

 

[scifiwolf]

Yeah, I've been out of the the thread for the most part since the trailer dropped, so I forgot you guys had seen it.

 

[Victarion]

If Rowan's the villain and can do mass-possession, why not have the soldiers or whoever shoot each other, the busters, or themselves? Seems like villainy 101.

 

[bluejake01]

If Rowan's the villain and can do mass-possession, why not have the soldiers or whoever shoot each other, the busters, or themselves? Seems like villainy 101.

Why do that when you can unleash all the restless spirits from the void and become a giant cartoon ghost with a bow tie, ushering in centuries of Lovecraftian suffering?

 

[Victarion]

That's cool too, would love to see something Lovecraftian to make up for the wasted Mayhem design, but if you're possessing, may as well go all the way with it in the interest of practicality.

 

[def28]

The scene was brief. They have Chris Hemsworth surrounded, he is on the marquee of a building and they are in the street. It was shot on the soundstage so lots of green screen...he forces them to dance while taunting them and showing them they have no power to stop him.

The rumor you mention...kinda...there is no Gozer, it's not like the original scene.

Spoiler

after Rowan leaves Chris Hemsworth's body he basically tells them he can become anything he wants, and I believe Patty suggests he become cute and harmless. He says "something like this?" And appears as the no ghosts badge. She says "yeah, like that" and he begins to grow and burst from the building. The climax is the hardest for me to judge because the CGI was still in the animatic stage for a lot of it...so the big action scenes were little more than rough rendered CGI storyboards and studio work.

I don't know how else to describe it other than the scene you reference works in The Mask. Within context of GB 2016 and the antagonist showing off how he can control and possess everyone, it works in that function but comes off as cheesy, cringe inducing and unnecessary. He could've done anything else to show off this power. The scene seemed to be going for laughs and it missed.

Regarding your spoiler text - it didn't work for me and was another lazy, shoehorned callback to the original as fan service but with a slightly different spin so as not to come off as too lazy. jake may have a different take on it though.

Gotcha, thanks guys.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't think it would have been wrong. I won't even say that it doesn't fit in this movie because I haven't seen the scene or the film. It could not be working due to pacing. We just know they felt like it needed to be cut, so it was. We don't know why, and people need to stop projecting their fears and angers and frustrations into poorly-written reports. Cuts (including cameos) happen. Story alterations in the editing room happen. There's no reason to be nihilistic or judgmental because they're part of this film's process as well.

Once I start hearing reviews of the finished product that's actually being released, I may start worrying and rethinking paying for a ticket, or getting excited if the news is positive. Everything right now, good or bad, gets an "oh, that's interesting to hear" from me and that's it.

This sounds like the exact defense used for FF. The amount of noise here is the problem. Where there is smoke...

 

[Mike_D202]

Regardless of my feelings towards the reboot (less than favorable to say the least) I'll still go see it. In my GB jumpsuit (the original) opening night in Imax. I'll post a review after.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

seems avgn kicked the perverbel hornets nest with his new ghostbusters video. The backlash towards him has went from normal to nasty to insane.

All because he said he won't got see it

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

That reaction is exactly why I stopped following people like Patton Oswalt. Incredibly nasty and mean-spirited. If he disagrees with someone. It's the exact kind of negative "buzz" Sony doesn't need, and Paul Feig's comments (as much as I like and have faith in the guy) is essentially throwing gasoline into the fire.

I saw the video right when it went up (I subscribe to his channel). And while I fundamentally disagree with James' stance, he was perfectly reasonable, calm and brought up valid points, so much as to say he might be wrong. To those who want to get into a tizzy over one person's thoughtful opinion, grow up. Please.