The New Improved Official Stupid Question Thread Marvel Edition

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea that's the device he stole from Avengers Tower when he fought the Thunderbolts.

Bullseye got it back off him when they fought in the next arc.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

it defiently makes for the more entertaining read. X-factor is a bore, AXM rarely comes out and UXM is a mess

You and I no longer have anything to discuss. Good day, sir.

 

[JewishHobbit]

X-Force is probably the best X-Book out right now with X-Factor a close second. And coming in last place.... Cable... or maybe Wolverine's books... I dont read either of those.

 

[moraldeficiency]

X-factor is a bore

Look, not trying to overstep my bounds but I'm gonna have to speak for all the internets here when I say, "You're done, son!"

 

[JewishHobbit]

X-factor is a bore

You and I no longer have anything to discuss. Good day, sir.

Look, not trying to overstep my bounds but I'm gonna have to speak for all the internets here when I say, "You're done, son!"

The votes have been cast and the tribe has spoken. Havok83, you have been evicted from the internet. Take all your belongings and leave your computer screen immediately.

 

[BrianWilly]

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I think X-Factor is a bore too, and dropped it a while back.






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[LouFerignoDemon]

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I think X-Factor is a bore too, and dropped it a while back.






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You didn't hear about my friend and his toaster, right?

 

[Havok83]

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I think X-Factor is a bore too, and dropped it a while back.






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Yes another brace soul courageous enough to speak the truth. Let me guess, you dropped it shortly after Messiah Complex right? Thats when it all went downhill

 

[BrianWilly]

I can't quite remember, but that sounds more or less right. The characters are fantastic and PAD is a fantastic writer, blah blah etc, but I just don't think this book has any sort of longterm or shortterm direction at all. **** just happens, **** keeps getting worse, and...and then there's more of that. The characters are in completely different places than they were when the series started, yet not a single one of them feels like they got there organically or naturally. They just got there 'cause pointless stuff happened, and then here we are.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It did have a bit of a dry period there, but it's gotten pretty good again since Jamie and Siryn's baby was born.

 

[Manic]

It did have a bit of a dry period there, but it's gotten pretty good again since Jamie and Siryn's baby was born.

aka the issue Jamie and Siryn's baby also [blackout]died[/blackout].

 

[Ace of Knaves]

X-Force is probably the best X-Book out right now with X-Factor a close second. And coming in last place.... Cable... or maybe Wolverine's books... I dont read either of those.

How can you say they come in last or are crap, if you haven't even read them?

But...yea I dropped Cable and Wolverine Origins a while back anyway

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I don't want to go back to over 9000 years ago, probably just either pre or post Civil War.

I want to read some delicous Avengers stuff. Give me the best Avengers read.

Hell, be a loose cannon poster with a heart of gold and even recommend me some current Avengers.

 

[BrianWilly]

It did have a bit of a dry period there, but it's gotten pretty good again since Jamie and Siryn's baby was born.

I did read that, and have followed recent stories, and stand by my fact proclamation infallible truth sigh opinion that the series feels incredibly directionless and schizophrenic, with "plots" and other stuff coming and going with no real purpose at all but to make some random **** happen to characters.

At the end of the day, why is there a series about these characters? The detective noir stuff has long since came and gone. The "protectors of mutant town" business lasted about as long as a really short thing, and good riddance. And now Jamie and Layla are in the future for some reason, which ties into what the team is doing in the present somehow, and wait why is this important again? I can't actually tell you what the motive of the series even is at the moment, other than "book that stars these characters that are together, and they're kinda funny sometimes." And mostly it doesn't even manage the "are together" bit, considering that half the cast has hardly seen the other half for a good few months now.

 

[Manic]

Meanwhile, X-Force gathers in readers with absolutely nothing more than mindless action drawn by an amazing art team that deserves better. At least the characters in X-Factor feel like real people, and not just a collection of pointy objects that periodically get pointed at someone. Because who needs the genuine emotion of Jamie Madrox feeling destroyed after what happened to his son Sean when you can have Warren Worthington reveling in the thought of killing people without any real internal moral conflict?

 

[Aesop Rocks]

Wait. Isn't Blackbolt a villain? Or am I thinking of Bulls Eye?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Blackbolt is the King of the Inhumans.

 

[Havok83]

Meanwhile, X-Force gathers in readers with absolutely nothing more than mindless action drawn by an amazing art team that deserves better. At least the characters in X-Factor feel like real people, and not just a collection of pointy objects that periodically get pointed at someone. Because who needs the genuine emotion of Jamie Madrox feeling destroyed after what happened to his son Sean when you can have Warren Worthington reveling in the thought of killing people without any real internal moral conflict?

whatever they are doing, its working bc Marvel defiently has me hooked on the title

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I did read that, and have followed recent stories, and stand by my fact proclamation infallible truth sigh opinion that the series feels incredibly directionless and schizophrenic, with "plots" and other stuff coming and going with no real purpose at all but to make some random **** happen to characters.

At the end of the day, why is there a series about these characters? The detective noir stuff has long since came and gone. The "protectors of mutant town" business lasted about as long as a really short thing, and good riddance. And now Jamie and Layla are in the future for some reason, which ties into what the team is doing in the present somehow, and wait why is this important again? I can't actually tell you what the motive of the series even is at the moment, other than "book that stars these characters that are together, and they're kinda funny sometimes." And mostly it doesn't even manage the "are together" bit, considering that half the cast has hardly seen the other half for a good few months now.

I've been enjoying it just for the character work. Did the team ever really have much of a direction? The idea that they're a detective agency has always basically been lip-service. PAD threw these characters together under the guise of a detective agency, but really he's just been writing the equivalent of a TV soap opera/dramedy right from the start--simple underlying plot, heavy focus on characters.

I mean, I loved Boston Legal, but what was the direction of that show? A bunch of people work at a law firm. I enjoyed the show because I was invested in the characters and enjoyed seeing them go through their ups and downs. Same with X-Factor. A bunch of people work at a detective agency but the focus is on the characters. I've been enjoying Madrox and the rest of the team's ups and downs. Why does it necessarily have to be more than that?

 

[JewishHobbit]

How can you say they come in last or are crap, if you haven't even read them?

But...yea I dropped Cable and Wolverine Origins a while back anyway

I didn't say they were crap... I said they were POTENTIALLY crap. I just wanted to note that they could possibly be. I read Old Man Logan but before that I had no interest and after that I have no interested (though I hear Dark Wolverine is actually pretty good). Origins though, it lost me when it 100% ignored continuity in its first year and pretended it was in its own box and that Wolverine's other titles/team issues weren't happening at all. Beyond that, I don't know what's become of it.

And I'm still buying Cable because it's obvious that the Hope storyline is important to the overall X-Universe at least until this Second Coming storyline is finished. After that, I'll probably drop the book.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I've been enjoying it just for the character work. Did the team ever really have much of a direction? The idea that they're a detective agency has always basically been lip-service. PAD threw these characters together under the guise of a detective agency, but really he's just been writing the equivalent of a TV soap opera/dramedy right from the start--simple underlying plot, heavy focus on characters.

I mean, I loved Boston Legal, but what was the direction of that show? A bunch of people work at a law firm. I enjoyed the show because I was invested in the characters and enjoyed seeing them go through their ups and downs. Same with X-Factor. A bunch of people work at a detective agency but the focus is on the characters. I've been enjoying Madrox and the rest of the team's ups and downs. Why does it necessarily have to be more than that?

If it isn't some enlightening life changing story, it sucks. Duh.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's just weird to me. This is basically what comics were in the '80s and before. Everything didn't necessarily have to march toward the next event or some epiphany or whatever. The status quo could be the same at the start and end of an arc and I could still feel satisfied reading it because I got to learn more about the characters and enjoy them. PAD's basically just modernized that formula.

Given that X-Factor is moving back to New York in another issue or two, though, I suppose if you absolutely had to ascribe a direction to the current stories, it'd be that X-Factor's time in Detroit was a really, really sucky period for them wherein the team basically fell apart due to internal turmoil and both their business and the future suffered as a result.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Some people need a percieved focus in their false worlds for them to have any value to them apparently. o.o I'm not exactly sure, I don't practice protosciences like psychology, but that's how it sounds to me.

Personally, if a comic series like say...Great Lakes Initiative were about, and I couldn't enjoy it because it didn't change the Marvel universe in some profound way, then I might as well resign as a comic book fan, because apparently I'm just a pretentious jerk instead.

You know who likes to write his books like that? Bendis.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Where the hell are the Great Lakes these days? I miss seeing Deadpool repeatedly kill Mr Immortal.

And was Squirrel Girl beating Thanos in canon?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Where the hell are the Great Lakes these days? I miss seeing Deadpool repeatedly kill Mr Immortal.

And was Squirrel Girl beating Thanos in canon?

I'm pretty sure the Great Lakes are still located between America and Canada, like they've always been. /jackassery powers activate!!