The NEW Justice League Casting and Discussion Thread

[Webhead2006]

would be interesting if they did motion cap, but really it isnt needed to do jl. Plus if i recall there was a rumor of motion cap when the whole jlm thing first came about.

 

[newwaveboy87]

Yeah. Knowing what we know about what could have been, if they had chosen a better cast and done a few script tweaks...it could have really been something. I just think, much like the Avengers film, that the cast leads just a tad bit too much towards sausage-fest territory.

For diversity's sake (and, really, girls need kickass heroes just like the boys do) why not throw in some Hawkgirl or Black Canary? I would prefer Black Canary myself.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

No.

The classic lineup is the best route. Wonder Woman as the female of the team gives her a unique perspective.

 

[newwaveboy87]

But she's the only one. Doesn't that seem a bit one-sided?

 

[comicfan4Life]

Yeah. Knowing what we know about what could have been, if they had chosen a better cast and done a few script tweaks...it could have really been something. I just think, much like the Avengers film, that the cast leads just a tad bit too much towards sausage-fest territory.

For diversity's sake (and, really, girls need kickass heroes just like the boys do) why not throw in some Hawkgirl or Black Canary? I would prefer Black Canary myself.

I can actually see your point on this. I feel if the movie is good and they get the characters right/respect the source material then I would be cool with a line up change/addition. Look at the avengers movie, they don't have the original line up, but if the film is good the material is respected then big ups to 'em. Frankly, as good as avengers are or may be, JLA all the way. I love both, but as cool as it will be seeing Cap, Thor, & Iron Man on screen together Supes & Bats alone would just destroy all.

 

[Willi Berg]

I would like to see the original lineup but who knows what they can do with the story. It can include other heroes in some capacity. If it's between Hawkgirl and Black Canary, I would prefer Black Canary as well. They could involve her in the plot somehow. If there's more than one superhero in the world (of the movie) then they are free to show others. But they've got to be integral to the plot. When superheroes show up randomly it can get to be too much in these teamup stories.

But the original lineup is very effective. Esp. for the first JLA movie. It can introduce others, whether in the first movie or if they make sequels. It can build up.

I would like to see a live action JLA, mainly because the effect of seeing human actors becoming these heroes, wearing these costumes (suits) and in fight scenes is more interesting to me, it increases the believability. That's part of what's impressive of that DCUO trailer- the characters are looking more and more life-like.

But a CGI/Mo-Cap JLA movie could be cool too- they're making a lot of animated movies, that doesn't seem to be ending soon. If the budgets increase in the next few years then they can make more sophisticated animated movies. That DCUO trailer showed the potential of that.

 

[Orb]

RUMOR

Another day, another Green Lantern filming report. The cast and crew of DC's next superhero tentpole franchise, Green Lantern, will be filming in downtown New Orleans, Louisiana, tonight. Several streets will be completely closed off to allow room for an Earth-based scene involving the fear entity Parallax and Krona. Longtime readers of DC comics know who Krona is; but for those of you a bit unfamiliar, here is a brief description:

Born on Maltus, Krona is an Oan scientist who became obsessed with observing the origins of the universe itself, despite an ancient legend that said discovering that secret would cause a great calamity. Krona constructs a machine that pierces the temporal barrier and views the beginnings of time itself. Krona catches a glimpse of the hand of creation depositing the speck that would become the entire cosmos. His machine explodes at that instant, and the universe is shattered causing the creation of the Multiverse as the universe replicates into an infinite number of parallel universes. At this same moment, the Anti-Matter Universe is created, unleashing evil into the cosmos; thus, the Monitor and the Anti-Monitor are born. As punishment for this act, Krona is transformed into pure energy by his fellow Oans and is sent to forever wander the cosmos. Krona's actions are what caused the Oans to become the Guardians of the Universe.

The exact role Krona will play in Green Lantern is still uncertain. Could this be another clue that DC is secretly planning to conjoin their superhero properties into one film universe? Or is this their way of explaining all the different incarnations of their film characters?

http://www.**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=20971

Could they explain the different universes such as Nolan's Batman and Green Lantern as multiverse?

 

[comicfan4Life]

I would like to see the original lineup but who knows what they can do with the story. It can include other heroes in some capacity. If it's between Hawkgirl and Black Canary, I would prefer Black Canary as well. They could involve her in the plot somehow. If there's more than one superhero in the world (of the movie) then they are free to show others. But they've got to be integral to the plot. When superheroes show up randomly it can get to be too much in these teamup stories.

But the original lineup is very effective. Esp. for the first JLA movie. It can introduce others, whether in the first movie or if they make sequels. It can build up.

I would like to see a live action JLA, mainly because the effect of seeing human actors becoming these heroes, wearing these costumes (suits) and in fight scenes is more interesting to me, it increases the believability. That's part of what's impressive of that DCUO trailer- the characters are looking more and more life-like.

But a CGI/Mo-Cap JLA movie could be cool too- they're making a lot of animated movies, that doesn't seem to be ending soon. If the budgets increase in the next few years then they can make more sophisticated animated movies. That DCUO trailer showed the potential of that.

I agree with that greatly, if they can fit into the storyline great, if not keep them out. We don't need another Spider-Man 3, lol. I would prefer live action too.

@ Orb:That just grinds my gears, the multi-verse stuff is only going to confuse the general public who don't have time to research this and that. They just want to see a good movie, not worry about alternate realities, different variations of heroes, etc. If they can pull it off great, but how can they get Superman Returns Superman to meet up with Batman Begins/Dark Knight Batman? They could have set this up in one universe, I hope they don't bring in the earth 1,2,3 stuff.

 

[Willi Berg]

But Nolan's Batman will be over soon. I don't think they need to explain it as another universe. I agree that it can get too complicated. Krona is part of the space drama of Green Lantern, it doesn't have to get into creating alternate realities for superheroes that aren't even completely established yet.

 

[Willi Berg]

edit:doublepost

 

[newwaveboy87]

I can actually see your point on this. I feel if the movie is good and they get the characters right/respect the source material then I would be cool with a line up change/addition. Look at the avengers movie, they don't have the original line up, but if the film is good the material is respected then big ups to 'em. Frankly, as good as avengers are or may be, JLA all the way. I love both, but as cool as it will be seeing Cap, Thor, & Iron Man on screen together Supes & Bats alone would just destroy all.

True that

 

[comicfan4Life]

But Nolan's Batman will be over soon. I don't think they need to explain it as another universe. I agree that it can get too complicated. Krona is part of the space drama of Green Lantern, it doesn't have to get into creating alternate realities for superheroes that aren't even completely established yet.

That could work, of course the movies will still be fresh in people's minds but as long we still get a kick ass Batman laying down the law I will be fine with that. With the Superman reboot in the works, that could help too, just as long as there's no golden age:1st, silver age:2nd = silver age:1st, golden age:2nd.

True that

True indeed

 

[Willi Berg]

Say after Nolan's Batman in the third movie, there is a bit of a break from Batman. Then we get the Superman, GL, Flash and hopefully Wonder Woman and maybe even Aquaman movies. If the new Batman shows up in a Justice League movie, it introduces a new Batman actor (if Bale leaves) and a Batman in the greater DC universe. And it can build from that.

Trying to restart Batman in his own movie series after Nolan leaves will be incredibly tough. If he is reintroduced in a JL movie, then that takes some of that pressure off but also creates a new platform for him for any more solo movies.

 

[comicfan4Life]

Say after Nolan's Batman in the third movie, there is a bit of a break from Batman. Then we get the Superman, GL, Flash and hopefully Wonder Woman and maybe even Aquaman movies. If the new Batman shows up in a Justice League movie, it introduces a new Batman actor (if Bale leaves) and a Batman in the greater DC universe. And it can build from that.

Trying to restart Batman in his own movie series after Nolan leaves will be incredibly tough. If he is reintroduced in a JL movie, then that takes some of that pressure off but also creates a new platform for him for any more solo movies.

Exactly, well said!

 

[MOVIELORD101]

Dunno if anyone bothered to post this, but here's a baffling article regarding the infamous Geroge Miller JL film that got scrapped:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/105139-baruchel-on-the-justice-league-movie-that-could-have-been

Sounds like Miller would've gotten it COMPLETELY wrong. First of all, a "gory" Justice League film? Fans would've been rioting in the streets over that. Not only is that out-of-character for ALL of the characters involved, ESPECIALLY Superman and Batman, but it's completely inappropriate for that team. That's something I'd expect out of Watchmen or Kick-Ass, NOT THE JUSTICE LEAGUE.

Secondly, it would've been just a stand-alone film with no hints in other DC films or anything. This might be the reason behind Marvel Studios' current Avengers build-up by crossing-over certain films with one another in advance, which is a GENIUS move on their part.

 

[BATZARRO WWD]

Dunno if anyone bothered to post this, but here's a baffling article regarding the infamous Geroge Miller JL film that got scrapped:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/a...the-justice-league-movie-that-could-have-been

Sounds like Miller would've gotten it COMPLETELY wrong. First of all, a "gory" Justice League film? Fans would've been rioting in the streets over that. Not only is that out-of-character for ALL of the characters involved, ESPECIALLY Superman and Batman, but it's completely inappropriate for that team. That's something I'd expect out of Watchmen or Kick-Ass, NOT THE JUSTICE LEAGUE.

Secondly, it would've been just a stand-alone film with no hints in other DC films or anything. This might be the reason behind Marvel Studios' current Avengers build-up by crossing-over certain films with one another in advance, which is a GENIUS move on their part.

Back then it was "90210" Justice League with a SUperfriends hall of Justice directed by the guy who made the Cute lil' Penguins Movie, and now it's a concern that the film was gonna be gory and Dark?

I don't take the gory part to mean blood letting and splattered entrails. But this WAS a movie reportedly about the Omac Storyline, which means it ends in a necksnapping. It was to be a serious movie about Superpeople Superpunching Superrobots that used to be regular people, or so I read.

Sigh. Now I'M the one beating a dead horse...

 

[Octoberist]

well, he also made Mad Max

 

[BATZARRO WWD]

well, he also made Mad Max

(mock voice) But that was yeers ago! Now all he can do is cute little movie about puffins and lil baby penguins and sometimes they speak Spanish for some reasunss. And that's exactly whut JLM was gonna be.

But with GOAR!

 

[Willi Berg]

aww puffins.

 

[jmc]

Everything about that film screamed the old WB habits of treating superheroes. That film was a disaster waiting to happen, a knee jerk reaction to an ordinary Superman film and was rightfully killed off within 24 hours of TDK opening. Gotta give WB credit for at least coming to their senses and realizing what the way forward is, now we've got GL next year, a third Batman film in the works, a new Superman flick via Team Nolan, and louder rumblings of Flash finally making it to screen. Things are looking a lot better now for DC's big guns.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Everything about that film screamed the old WB habits of treating superheroes. That film was a disaster waiting to happen, a knee jerk reaction to an ordinary Superman film and was rightfully killed off within 24 hours of TDK opening. Gotta give WB credit for at least coming to their senses and realizing what the way forward is, now we've got GL next year, a third Batman film in the works, a new Superman flick via Team Nolan, and louder rumblings of Flash finally making it to screen. Things are looking a lot better now for DC's big guns.

I disagree with you on the JL movie.
It would have been the first time we'd seen the greatest superheroes together on screen with a good story taken straight out of the comics, with a hero dying and another taking his place (a novelty for superhero movies) and another loved one being pushed to kill someone. A strong storyline. And as icing on the cake Weta costumes and make-up.
I may agree they were not so fanboy-savy with their casting choices, but perfection is not fro this life.

 

[GL1]

But she's the only one. Doesn't that seem a bit one-sided?

The vast majority of action movies are that way:

Inception
Lord of the Rings
Star Wars
Transformers
The Matrix

Movies with multiple female action leads are few and far between, and I defy you to find any good ones. This is not a woman issue, but a male perception issue. I don't see it going anywhere, either.

 

[comicfan4Life]

The vast majority of action movies are that way:

Inception
Lord of the Rings
Star Wars
Transformers
The Matrix

Movies with multiple female action leads are few and far between, and I defy you to find any good ones. This is not a woman issue, but a male perception issue. I don't see it going anywhere, either.

So true unfortunately, so very true.

 

[Willi Berg]

Well, there is "Sucker Punch" coming up, though who knows how that will go.

In these superhero team up movies, there can be a mix. In 'X-Men' for example. Yes it is skewed for the young male audience, but a mix would give broader appeal.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Nah.

More than one female would be distracting from the plot :P

Plus, WB/DC is finally trying to stay true to the comics with DC:E. The Classic lineup:

Batman, Superman, GL, Flash, Aquaman, MM and Wonder Woman

Is the way to go.