Comics The OFFICAL: Xavier/mutant protocols thread

[javon]

Originally posted by masterji
Easy to kill Storm, shove a bomb down her trapper.

 

[masterj]

Lol I tease.

 

[javon]

^LOL, I know.

 

[americanguy96]

For Dust, what about spreading her telekinetically all around the world, surely she wouldn't be able to reform that far apart?

 

[RSS]

Anyway, for Storm it's hard to tell seeing as how she can actualy turn into her weather element.

Javon, you do know that she could only do that in that issue - which was also an alternate future?
Sure, it's the ultimate extent of her powers, but she can't do it now... She isn't there yet.

 

[javon]

Javon, you do know that she could only do that in that issue - which was also an alternate future?
Sure, it's the ultimate extent of her powers, but she can't do it now... She isn't there yet.

I never knew Uncanny X-men #145 or Giant Size X-men #1 was an alternate future. You sure you know what your talking about RSS?

 

[ProfeZZor X]

You ain't giving me nothin' because i'd like 2 know myself.

I believe Manic is incorrect in saying that Iceman has no brain. Think of him in ice form as Xavier is to his Astral form. He exists, but has no concious body. Iceman does have a functioning mind, but it's not necessarily anchored into a physical body, such as a block of ice. And I don't want to sound like the devil's advocate here, but I'm starting to wonder if he exists as psionic force, like Chamber does by inhabiting a shell of for a body.

And here's why:

Remember when that Nightcrawler arc (about his father) started? When his head was blown off, he was in his human form. The moment he was blown up from that exploding arrow, he was left as an ice head. He didn't ice up, so it makes me wonder if his conciousness existed in his bodily fluids, and it just enough to reform as his head.... I could be way off, but that moment deserves much more explanation.

 

[javon]

I believe Manic is incorrect in saying that Iceman has no brain. Think of him in ice form as Xavier is to his Astral form. He exists, but has no concious body. Iceman does have a functioning mind, but it's not necessarily anchored into a physical body, such as a block of ice. And I don't want to sound like the devil's advocate here, but I'm starting to wonder if he exists as psionic force, like Chamber does by inhabiting a shell of for a body.

And here's why:

Remember when that Nightcrawler arc (about his father) started? When his head was blown off, he was in his human form. The moment he was blown up from that exploding arrow, he was left as an ice head. He didn't ice up, so it makes me wonder if his conciousness existed in his bodily fluids, and it just enough to reform as his head.... I could be way off, but that moment deserves much more explanation.

The only people who can tell if he has a brain or not are telepath and Storm..

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Okay, enough with Iceman and Storm explanations.

How can we kill:

Sunspot
Elixir
Chamber
Emma Frost
Mercury
Angel
Sabertooth
Mimic
Jamie Bradock
Quentin Quire
Vulcan

 

[javon]

Okay, enough with Iceman and Storm explanations.

How can we kill:

Sunspot
Elixir
Chamber
Emma Frost
Mercury
Angel
Sabertooth
Mimic
Jamie Bradock
Quentin Quire
Vulcan

What do you mean stop with the storm explanations. I simply stated all the people who could tell if he had a brain..
And wtf do you mean Angel?! A living roach can beat him. As for Emma, Iceman can beat her, Storm can beat her, Quentin Quire can beat her..thats all for now.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

What do you mean stop with the storm explanations. I simply stated all the people who could tell if he had a brain..
And wtf do you mean Angel?! A living roach can beat him. As for Emma, Iceman can beat her, Storm can beat her, Quentin Quire can beat her..thats all for now.

This is not a "who can beat him/her" thread.... it's "How can they be killed".

Angel has a healing factor just like Wolverine does. That's why I put him on the list.

Also if you noticed, I put Iceman in that "enough with the" comment first. The general statement was not specifically towards you.

 

[javon]

This is not a "who can beat him/her" thread.... it's "How can they be killed".

Angel has a healing factor just like Wolverine does. That's why I put him on the list.

Also if you noticed, I put Iceman in that "enough with the" comment first. The general statement was not specifically towards you.

So if this isn't a "who can beat her/him" thread it's a "How can they be killed" thread, what in the hell is the difference. If someone can beat them..then they can be killed! Whats so hard about that? And sorry for the thing about "enough with theA", i thouhgt you wre talking to me..sorry.

 

[Harlekin]

So if this isn't a "who can beat her/him" thread it's a "How can they be killed" thread, what in the hell is the difference. If someone can beat them..then they can be killed! Whats so hard about that? And sorry for the thing about "enough with theA", i thouhgt you wre talking to me..sorry.

Uhm, there's a big difference. This is simply asking a method in order to kill the character (such as decapitation), rather than asking who could beat who (such as blabla beating blieblie).

 

[javon]

Leave your anger in the other thread. And to change the subject before someone finds it useless to come to this thread, who can beat Apocalypse?

 

[Optic Rage]

about 40 to 50 people.

 

[Harlekin]

Leave your anger in the other thread. And to change the subject before someone finds it useless to come to this thread, who can beat Apocalypse?

There was no anger in my post. Also, you just don't seem to get it. It's not about who is able to beat Apocalypse, but how one is capable of beating Apocalypse.

 

[javon]

about 40 to 50 people.

Well who do you think Optic Rage?

 

[RSS]

I never knew Uncanny X-men #145 or Giant Size X-men #1 was an alternate future. You sure you know what your talking about RSS?

Seeing as I don't want to change the topic of this thread, I'd be more then happy to be enlightened by you - on how she was in energy form in those issues.

Because she wasn't.

Anyway, doesn't Angel have like an healing blood or something? If so, then wouldn't freezing/boiling his blood kill him?

 

[javon]

Seeing as I don't want to change the topic of this thread, I'd be more then happy to be enlightened by you - on how she was in energy form in those issues.

Because she wasn't.

Anyway, doesn't Angel have like an healing blood or something? If so, then wouldn't freezing/boiling his blood kill him?

Oh, sorry.

Spoiler

In Giant Size X-men #1 she traveled as lightning when those tribal people called to her and in uncanny x-men #147 she did it inside of a castle.

 

[Harlekin]

There is no implication of that whatsoever in Giant-Size X-Men #1. Considering the only other example would be Uncanny X-Men #147, I'd hardly call it valid.

 

[RSS]

Oh dear...

Spoiler

Javon, you should really stop making things up. She did not travel as lightning when her people called her - and here's the narration from those panels: "Kenya, East Africa: Atop a lonely knoll, there stands a great stone portal. Men come to it in humility, their voices raised in praise and song-- and prayerful supplication. 'Ororo, great goddess of the storm,' the voices cry, 'come unto us and ease our burden!'. And with the hollow peal of thunder and the moan of lonely winds -- the storm goddess comes!". If you'd have read the book, you would see that the second panel shows a scene with great wind - which is how Storm travels, upon wind; then the third panel shows her surrounded by a lightning aura, which she does many times. That isn't an energy form.

And she doesn't appear in energy form/travel as lightning in Uncanny 147 either. There is the panel that shows a lightning bolt striking the castle then her in the sky as Rogue Storm, but if you would have thought about it for just a second - you would see that the panel of the lightning is drawn from a very distant perspective; hence, she would be too small to be seen.

She hasn't traveled in lightning.

I would like to apologize ProfeZZor X for changing the subject once more, I won't do so again. Javon, if you want to further discuss this, then do it at the Storm thread.

 

[Exploding Boy]

Why are there spoiler tags on issues from 1981?...anyway


I like this thread because its not who can kill who. Its like the Xavier Protoccls(which if you knew what those were than you wouldn't think this was a vs thread).
Sunspot-I guess you would have to get him in his human form. Im not so sure
of how powerfull he is in his energy form.

Elixir-We dont know much about the extents of his powers but I guess if you attack him with something that kills him and since he doesn't auto heal he wouldn't be able to heal himself.

Chamber-Well he is depowered so I guess you could just pull the plug on his life support.

Emma Frost-In diamond form if she is killed she could have her consciousness surevive, or was it Jean that kept it alive when she was shattered?

Mercury- Dont know the extents of her powers either, I guess it would be very hard to kill her.
I'll do the others later

 

[javon]

Oh dear...

Spoiler

Javon, you should really stop making things up. She did not travel as lightning when her people called her - and here's the narration from those panels: "Kenya, East Africa: Atop a lonely knoll, there stands a great stone portal. Men come to it in humility, their voices raised in praise and song-- and prayerful supplication. 'Ororo, great goddess of the storm,' the voices cry, 'come unto us and ease our burden!'. And with the hollow peal of thunder and the moan of lonely winds -- the storm goddess comes!". If you'd have read the book, you would see that the second panel shows a scene with great wind - which is how Storm travels, upon wind; then the third panel shows her surrounded by a lightning aura, which she does many times. That isn't an energy form.

And she doesn't appear in energy form/travel as lightning in Uncanny 147 either. There is the panel that shows a lightning bolt striking the castle then her in the sky as Rogue Storm, but if you would have thought about it for just a second - you would see that the panel of the lightning is drawn from a very distant perspective; hence, she would be too small to be seen.

She hasn't traveled in lightning.

I would like to apologize ProfeZZor X for changing the subject once more, I won't do so again. Javon, if you want to further discuss this, then do it at the Storm thread.

Spoiler

Now you of all people were the last who i'd thought to get smart. That was her traveling as lightning in both issues so don't try to change it around. In Uncanny X-men #147 i'm not talking about when she came out of that chrome so your on an entire different issue. In Uncanny X-men #145 (i probably said #147 but meant to say #145) it said "That lightning was huge-and it fell from a clear sky". That was Storm who traveled as lightning so please don't get mad at me.

 

[RSS]

Sabertooth - Just like with Wolverine, chopping off his head would kill him.

Jamie Bradock - This is a tough one. But I guess that any method of killing that would kill him as fast as possible should work. What I mean is a sneak attack on him, which he can't anticipate(if that's even possible), then a very quick death so he won't react and fix things.

Quentin Quire - Isn't he like a ultra powerful omega telepath? Off with his head!

Vulcan - We don't. Seriously, how can you kill someone who manipulates all forms of energy?!

 

[Intheknow101]

Okay, enough with Iceman and Storm explanations.

How can we kill:

Sunspot
Elixir
Chamber
Emma Frost
Mercury
Angel
Sabertooth
Mimic
Jamie Bradock
Quentin Quire
Vulcan

Iceman- main weakness is his mind. Without his mind, he won't be able to function. If you attack him physically he'll just reform. Unless perhaps a strong enough telekinetic can prevent him from reforming by holding the water molecules apart or containing them.

Storm- she still has a human body. decapitation, a bullet, a knife wound, any of these.

Sunspot- ditto for Storm

Chamber- attack his energy self . Perhaps dispersing it ripping it apart. A high level energy manipulator or a high level tk should do the trick.
It's theorized his body is just a shell that contains his energy. Maybe if his body is destroyed, there'd be nothing holding him to reality and he'd "die".

Elixir- ditto for Storm

Emma Frost- Shatter her using a diamond bullet or via any other method strong enough to shatter her

Mercury- enough cold can probably cause her metal form to become brittle enough to shatter

Angel- a bullet, decapitation, knife wound

Sabretooth- similar to Logan, which has to have his head cut off. though if you do enough direct damage to him physically I think you can take him out similar to how when Wolverine got his adamantium ripped out he would have died had it not been for Jean holding him together and reaching out to his mind. His healing factor was just overworked in that case.

Mimic- ditto Storm answer. Though it all varies with what powers he is currently mimicking.

Jamie Braddock- shut down his mind

Quetin Quire- again shut down his mind

Vulcan- probably the same as above

Though the easiest way to kill any mutant is to just launch leech at them and then bring out the trusty machine gun.