Ant-Man The Official Ant-Man News and Speculation Thread - Part 1

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I want Jesse Pinkman for Scotty Lang.

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Aaron's a little too young to be playing the single father of a teenage daughter, isn't he? Besides, Rudd (who's confirmed for the lead) might actually be playing Lang instead of Pym. The 44-year old Rudd makes a more believable desperate dad than any younger actor out there.
 
The thing about Rudd is that he's so immortal..so ageless that they might de-age the daughter a bit. From a teen to maybe a 9 year old.
 
Aaron Paul is 34 which makes him old enough to play the father of a preteen girl.
 
So do people think, with Rudd's casting, that Ant-Man could be propelled into A-list status like Iron Man was before with RDJ? Could he become a central figure and potential poster boy for Marvel?
 
So do people think, with Rudd's casting, that Ant-Man could be propelled into A-list status like Iron Man was before with RDJ? Could he become a central figure and potential poster boy for Marvel?

In a word: no. :oldrazz:

I'd love for Rudd/Ant-Man to become hugely popular, but I'd bet that the likely route is that it becomes a massive cult hit rather than a bona fide action blockbuster. You know --- something the hipsters can latch onto without feeling like they're selling out to the mainstream.
 
In a word: no. :oldrazz:

I'd love for Rudd/Ant-Man to become hugely popular, but I'd bet that the likely route is that it becomes a massive cult hit rather than a bona fide action blockbuster. You know --- something the hipsters can latch onto without feeling like they're selling out to the mainstream.

I see no reason it couldn't be a bona fide action blockbuster like Iron Man. Are you suggesting it's because of the premise that it might hinder its success? I don't think it's going to be just like a standard Edgar Wright movie, because this isn't some independent film but a Marvel-based movie set in their universe. But even if it were something independent, it could still do very well.

Iron Man could easily have gone the way of a massive cult hit.
 
Ant-Man is also filming at an airport in Atlanta. Wright wants to shoot "some shots in the hangers and of planes taking off"

Ant-Man is on the same plane as Logan and that red headed chick xD
 
You know it wasn't that long ago that people were calling this film a huge mistake, comparing it to Honey I Shrunk the Kids, "shrinking powers are stupidz!1!!", etc. Now though it seems like there is a lot more good will in general. Funny how people come around.
 
Saying that Ant Man is stupid or goofy really doesn't make a lot of sense if you really think about it. A billionaire businessman who dresses up like a flying rodent and beats thugs up with his bare hands every night is pretty goofy if you think about it. A Norse God coming to Earth and fighting crime is pretty goofy, as is a 90-pound beanpole getting hocked up on "science drugs" and become a American propaganda superhero, or a scrawny dork getting bitten by a radioactive spider. I'm not sure why these are so acceptable, yet Ant Man is too "goofy."
 
So do people think, with Rudd's casting, that Ant-Man could be propelled into A-list status like Iron Man was before with RDJ? Could he become a central figure and potential poster boy for Marvel?

Obviously if the movie proves to be successful and is well received then Ant-Man will get a popularity boost just like Blade did.

I'm not sure Ant-Man will become Marvels poster boy unless the film is really really successful and well liked which I'm not sure it will be. I think the film will do ok and will make people view the character in a new light.
 
Iron Man was kind of lightning in a bottle. You had EVYTHING go right in that first film. The perfect leading actor, the perfect supporting cast, the perfect director, an interesting and layered story, the perfect tone, the chemistry between the various actors, etc. It all clicked. That is VERY hard to do, and to expect Ant Man to be that way is unrealistic. I'll settle for a good movie.
 
Saying that Ant Man is stupid or goofy really doesn't make a lot of sense if you really think about it. A billionaire businessman who dresses up like a flying rodent and beats thugs up with his bare hands every night is pretty goofy if you think about it. A Norse God coming to Earth and fighting crime is pretty goofy, as is a 90-pound beanpole getting hocked up on "science drugs" and become a American propaganda superhero, or a scrawny dork getting bitten by a radioactive spider. I'm not sure why these are so acceptable, yet Ant Man is too "goofy."

It's the combination of a goofy name, seemingly lame powers, and a forgettable man behind the mask. That's it in a nutshell.

I'm excited as hell for this movie, but it's not hard to see why he's not already on the A-list of Marvel heroes. I don't think we'd even be talking about it if Edgar Wright hadn't approached Marvel.
 
Batman, Spiderman or Ironman is just as goofy a name ant-man really its just that we are used to hearing those names and are familiar with those characters so that they don't seem as goofy. If you go up to a person with no interest or knowledge superhero comics and mention names they usually think they all sound really goofy and lame.

The talking to an controlling insects much like Aquaman's talking and controlling sea life are kind of goofy/quirky and I can see why people laugh about that power but size changing is actually a pretty fun visual power depending on how they use it. The problem is that people think Ant-Man stays tiny or large as giant-man all the time instead of changing size at rapid succession using the momentum and element of surprise in fighting combat. Like Stan Lee and Edgar Wright said size changing is a power that works better in live action motion rather than a 2d comic panel.

I find Pym, Lang and O'Grady are all interesting depending on who is writing them. Tony Stark in the comics was a lot more serious and at times down beat character than Robert Downey Junior's movie version. Iron Man was nowhere near as popular as he is since his movies took off remember. Iron Man was a B-lister who not many people had heard of. Iron Man came about because Stan Lee wanted to create the most unlikeable character possible, and see if he could make readers like him.
 
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It'll certainly be nice to get some characters with more interesting powers than "punching things".
 
I see no reason it couldn't be a bona fide action blockbuster like Iron Man. Are you suggesting it's because of the premise that it might hinder its success? I don't think it's going to be just like a standard Edgar Wright movie, because this isn't some independent film but a Marvel-based movie set in their universe. But even if it were something independent, it could still do very well.

Iron Man could easily have gone the way of a massive cult hit.


It very well could become a blockbuster, yeah, and I hope it does. I'm just not betting on it, though. It's not going to do *poorly,* by any stretch, but I just think that the combination of director, lead actor, title character and subject matter in general are going to appeal more to niche audiences than general ones. Again, I expect that teenagers and twentysomething hipsters will fall in love with this, even the ones who otherwise despise all things Marvel or CBMs in general. Kiddies and their parents, maybe not so much.
 
Batman, Spiderman or Ironman is just as goofy a name ant-man really its just that we are used to hearing those names and are familiar with those characters so that they don't seem as goofy. If you go up to a person with no interest or knowledge superhero comics and mention names they usually think they all sound really goofy and lame.

The talking to an controlling insects much like Aquaman's talking and controlling sea life are kind of goofy/quirky and I can see why people laugh about that power but size changing is actually a pretty fun visual power depending on how they use it. The problem is that people think Ant-Man stays tiny or large as giant-man all the time instead of changing size at rapid succession using the momentum and element of surprise in fighting combat. Like Stan Lee and Edgar Wright said size changing is a power that works better in live action motion rather than a 2d comic panel.

I find Pym, Lang and O'Grady are all interesting depending on who is writing them. Tony Stark in the comics was a lot more serious and at times down beat character than Robert Downey Junior's movie version. Iron Man was nowhere near as popular as he is since his movies took off remember. Iron Man was a B-lister who not many people had heard of. Iron Man came about because Stan Lee wanted to create the most unlikeable character possible, and see if he could make readers like him.

I tried to point out that it was a combination of those things, not one thing taken by itself. Also, don't shoot the messenger. I can't wait to see Rudd as Lang/Pym.
 
Batman, Spiderman or Ironman is just as goofy a name ant-man really its just that we are used to hearing those names and are familiar with those characters so that they don't seem as goofy. If you go up to a person with no interest or knowledge superhero comics and mention names they usually think they all sound really goofy and lame.

The talking to an controlling insects much like Aquaman's talking and controlling sea life are kind of goofy/quirky and I can see why people laugh about that power but size changing is actually a pretty fun visual power depending on how they use it. The problem is that people think Ant-Man stays tiny or large as giant-man all the time instead of changing size at rapid succession using the momentum and element of surprise in fighting combat. Like Stan Lee and Edgar Wright said size changing is a power that works better in live action motion rather than a 2d comic panel.

I find Pym, Lang and O'Grady are all interesting depending on who is writing them. Tony Stark in the comics was a lot more serious and at times down beat character than Robert Downey Junior's movie version. Iron Man was nowhere near as popular as he is since his movies took off remember. Iron Man was a B-lister who not many people had heard of. Iron Man came about because Stan Lee wanted to create the most unlikeable character possible, and see if he could make readers like him.
There's A LOT more to Aquaman's powers than just "talking to fish." Let's see how "goofy" they find his powers when he summons up a Great White Shark to bite them in half. The people who hold that against him tend to be people who have never read an Aquaman comic in their lives. The same is true for Ant Man.
 
Lang: Ay yo, Mr. Pym. I'm gonna borrow your suit--
Pym: I AM THE ONE WHO SHRINKS.
 
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