Ant-Man The Official Ant-Man News and Speculation Thread - Part 1

[Dark Raven]

Where does that HQ Ant-Man footage used for the gif come from? It doesn't look like the pirate version floating around YouTube. Did Marvel release the footage officially somewhere?

 

[Ant-manic]

Where does that HQ Ant-Man footage used for the gif come from? It doesn't look like the pirate version floating around YouTube. Did Marvel release the footage officially somewhere?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbtnMmYv_Js&feature=player_detailpage


there are better ones out there. but you usually have to sit through some random dude introducing it.

 

[Dark Raven]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbtnMmYv_Js&feature=player_detailpage


there are better ones out there. but you usually have to sit through some random dude introducing it.

Ok thanks for that.

I guess Rudd will be the only Ant-Man casting news before Christmas.

 

[Ant-manic]

Ok thanks for that.

I guess Rudd will be the only Ant-Man casting news before Christmas.

well then i really wish they had bothered to specify which Ant-Man it was.

 

[JackMercy]

Pym was very Walter White-ish, at the time of Lang's arrival. and he is a chemist.

Mel Gibson for Pym.

[BLACKOUT]Lang/Rudd: "I'm Ant-Man!"

Pym/Gibson: "NO, YOU'RE NOT! YOU'RE AN $%&^%^&![/BLACKOUT]

 

[The Guard]

Is it possible Pym might be just slightly older than Lang?

After all, in IRON MAN 2, Justin Hammer was a young man. Couldn't they do something similar with the Ant Man concept, in terms of playing around with age difference?

 

[Krystal]

well then i really wish they had bothered to specify which Ant-Man it was.

I agree--that was really lame.

It was basically like saying, "He's in our movie."

Have they ever announced the lead and not specified what role he is playing?

"Robert Downey Jr. will star in Iron Man!"

"Will he be playing Tony Stark?

"No comment."

WTF? LOL

 

[cherokeesam]

Is it possible Pym might be just slightly older than Lang?

After all, in IRON MAN 2, Justin Hammer was a young man. Couldn't they do something similar with the Ant Man concept, in terms of playing around with age difference?

Ask Edgar Wright.
His original premise for the first draft, way back in 06, was that Hank Pym was to be the original Ant-Man operating back in the 1960s. Flash-forward to the present (or maybe just as far as the 1990s --- I've heard two versions on this), and Scott Lang steals Pym's original suit, becoming the new Ant-Man.

The jury's still out on whether or not this movie still features a 60s era Pym, so we're just guessing based on which script you think is still in play.

I agree--that was really lame.

It was basically like saying, "He's in our movie."

Have they ever announced the lead and not specified what role he is playing?

"Robert Downey Jr. will star in Iron Man!"

"Will he be playing Tony Stark?

"No comment."

WTF? LOL

No, a better analogy would be WB announcing a from-scratch "Batman and Robin" movie, and announcing one cast member....then refusing to say whether that guy plays Batman or Robin.

There are two Ant-Men in this movie. Thus the silence/stonewalling.

 

[Hawkingbird]

I think we're going to have Pym. They probably wont want the "wife beater"

 

[Dark Raven]

I think we're going to have Pym. They probably wont want the "wife beater"

That makes no sense at all.

 

[cherokeesam]

I think we're going to have Pym. They probably wont want the "wife beater"

Um....Pym *is* the wife beater....

But no, they won't include that controversial angle in the film at all. Ever.

 

[Octoberist]

That story was just a bad decision.

 

[Loki882]

The fact that people blow it out of proportion, ignore the context, and often confuse it with the Ultimate Comics version of Pym (who IS an abusive jerk) only makes it worse. Heck, a lot of writers often ignore the context as well.

 

[Son of Coul]

Wait, who wouldn't want to see America's sweetheart Paul Rudd smack his wife around in a lighthearted Edgar Wright action movie? Because, y'know, pathos and such!

 

[SilentWarriorZ]

if hank is old then what happens to janet character is she even in or out ?

 

[Hawkingbird]

Um....Pym *is* the wife beater....

But no, they won't include that controversial angle in the film at all. Ever.

I meant Langggggggggg. Moment of stupidity.

 

[OriginalMiles]

Other than that statement from ages ago, it is never said that both Lang and Pym are in the movie, let alone it being in the past and present, also it is probably Hank Pym that Rudd is playing.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

That's nice to hear, but until we get confirmation, we don't know for sure. That old statement is all we have to go on for now, even though the script has probably gone through many changes since then. I really do hope Rudd is Pym.

 

[OriginalMiles]

Yeah... wait, wasn't it said that Rudd was the front runner for Hank Pym?

 

[Dark Raven]

I thought Feige or Wright have said that the premise remains the same from the initial pitch decades years ago.

 

[kaijunexus]

I don't think they'll go the "Hank Pym in the 60s, Scott Lang in present day" route.

Pym would just become a background character to Lang's story and there'd really be no need to mention him again in the MCU. I mean, he'd be at least in his 70s if not 80s today...if he'd even be alive at all.

What a waste of a major Marvel character (and THE major Ant-Man character).

It would be like having a first Ghost Rider film where Johnny Blaze is an old man who gives his power to Danny Ketch, who is then the focus for the majority of the movie and then is the only Ghost Rider for the rest of the potential series.

Why waste Blaze like that? What's the point? Why not just replace Ketch with Johnny and make up a new character to be the old Ghost Rider who can then give Johnny his powers? There's no reason to relegate a major character to a plot device like that.

And it's the same for Pym.

Only here, we're talking about the MCU...where this couldn't be rebooted. Pym would be an old (or dead) man in present day MCU. Period. Hank Pym would never be an Avenger in the cinematic universe.

That would suck.

I really don't think they'd do it.

 

[gkokujin]

^ unless he disappears using Pym Particles in the 60s/70s and resurfaces "in the near future" having never aged due to being in the Microverse where days there were decades to us.


my god, thats SO comic-booky it could work, I'm calling it now!

 

[Sub-Zero]

rudd as a scientist is laughable. rudd as a burglar who brushed up on electronics in prison, and steals the ant-man suit makes more sense. he's gotta be lang. if he isn't and pym is the criminal, guess what? marvel just bastardized your favorite superhero. are you going to stand by them after that? the short answer is probably "yes" so i guess it doesn't matter what they do.

 

[chamber-music]

I still think the who 60's/80's Ant-Man comments were taken out of context and Edgar was talking about Pym and Lang being Ant-Man in the 60's/80's comics.

I think Rudd as a scientist is believable. Even in the comedy films Rudd does he isn't usually the dumb guy, he is the usually more of the straight man to his more kooky co-stars while still remaining comedic himself.

 

[Xeno]

I don't think they'll go the "Hank Pym in the 60s, Scott Lang in present day" route.

Pym would just become a background character to Lang's story and there'd really be no need to mention him again in the MCU. I mean, he'd be at least in his 70s if not 80s today...if he'd even be alive at all.

What a waste of a major Marvel character (and THE major Ant-Man character).

It would be like having a first Ghost Rider film where Johnny Blaze is an old man who gives his power to Danny Ketch, who is then the focus for the majority of the movie and then is the only Ghost Rider for the rest of the potential series.

Why waste Blaze like that? What's the point? Why not just replace Ketch with Johnny and make up a new character to be the old Ghost Rider who can then give Johnny his powers? There's no reason to relegate a major character to a plot device like that.

And it's the same for Pym.

Only here, we're talking about the MCU...where this couldn't be rebooted. Pym would be an old (or dead) man in present day MCU. Period. Hank Pym would never be an Avenger in the cinematic universe.

That would suck.

I really don't think they'd do it.

This is exactly why I've always hated Edgar Wright's vision for Ant-Man. He may have a hard-on for Lang but Hank Pym is the character who really is indispensable to the Marvel Universe. Pym's scientific genius is what made Ant-Man so interesting and valuable. Take that away and all you're left with is a guy who can shrink but doesn't even understand the technology he's stolen.

Lang's back story is just a collection of cliches intended to justify a criminal's behavior. They've even changed that of late by killing off his kid. Hank and Jan would fit into the MCU so much better unless all Marvel intends to do with Ant-Man is use him in one movie and then forget about him.