The Official Batman Returns Thread

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I think Hathaway has bigger shoes to fill than Ledger did, to be honest.
 
I think Hathaway has bigger shoes to fill than Ledger did, to be honest.
I agree. Jack really didn't have anything to prove, and it shows. Not saying that he was a bad Joker, just that he didn't give it his all like Michelle did with Catwoman.
 
Is it wrong of me to know in advance that while i'll no doubt appreciate the Nolan/Hathaway Catwoman... I'll never LOVE it like I did Michelle's.
 
Is it wrong of me to know in advance that while i'll no doubt appreciate the Nolan/Hathaway Catwoman... I'll never LOVE it like I did Michelle's.

I don't see it as a problem it's all really personal preference, I absolutely adore Michelles Catwoman in the same vein as you, and also feel while I may really like and enjoy Anne's interpretaion that I'll still like Michelles better.

I cant lie that nostalgia does have something to do with it, but either way she set the bar really high and put her heart into that role. I'm not even sure I'll feel the same way about Jack and Heaths Jokers as I do Michelle and Annes Catwomans. Where as I find that I like them both equally for their different amazing interpretations.

I guess well see what our true opinions are next summer :)
 
Michelle was purrfect as Catwoman. I'd love to see Anne Hathaway top her as obviously I always love to see great things. Why hope for something to suck? But at the same time, it's a tough act to follow and Hathaway just doesn't seem as much the part. But I could be wrong as many of us were about Ledger
 
Michelle has about another year of glory left before she goes the way of Nicholson.
Indeed. I do find it quite fascinating that most comic book/film fans are unable to appreciate more than one interpretation at the same time. One film - usually the newest - is hailed the greatest film ever made and the cast and crew should be knighted, while the other - usually the oldest - is now automatically the 'WurSt fiNg EvA!!!' despite itself having once been considered the bee's knees. Their world is very black and white. It's quite amusing, actually.
 
Just like with Ledger, I'm not doubting Hathaway. Nor am I excited or saying that she's going to do a terrific job because we really don't know what's going to happen. Usually I place the criticism and praise on hold until I actually see something. The villains in the past two Nolan films did a great job but every director and actor will have their weaker moments. You never know when that's going to happen.

Regardless of all the praise that she gets to this day, there's no question in my mind that there will be fanboys bashing Michelle's Catwoman to no end just because they're buzzed about the new film. It's pathetic how blind and closed minded some people are.
 
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References
Citizen Kane (1941)
Vertigo (1958)
Psycho (1960)
A Nightmare On Elm Street (1984)
A View to a Kill (1985)

I'm curious to know what are the references to these films in Returns
 
I don't know about the others, but the Psycho reference is when Bruce and Selina are on their date at the mansion and Bruce mentions Norman Bates.
 
"Hehehehehe you missed"


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I just realized that Batman shooting the dart gun at the clown might have been a reference to what Batman did to that crook in the first one.
 
Awesome gif, Keaton always looks like a pure badass when he took out his criminals. The look he gives the clown thug when he says "you missed" right before he knocks him unconscious is priceless.
 
Hmm. Interesting comparison to Miller's work. Although it's not so close to the material that it defies speculation. :cwink:
 
Hmm. Interesting comparison to Miller's work. Although it's not so close to the material that it defies speculation. :cwink:

Click on the link, there are many comparisons to The Dark Knight Returns towards the end of the article.

In fact, Michael Keaton was given to read it to prepare for the role.
 
Oh I'm not arguing that. I've heard all about Burton & Keaton being influenced from DKR. Didn't Tim Burton say "The Killing Joke" was also an influence?

I'm merely saying those panels aren't so similar in providing proof that that's where the scene inspiration came from. :cwink:
 
Didn't Tim Burton say "The Killing Joke" was also an influence?

He said it was the first Batman story he loved that he could get into. I think the B89 confrontation was inspired by it and Returns aspect of the 4 characters being metaphorically in a mental Asylum but I think Nolan borrowed more from The Killing Joke for the characterization of Joker.

I'm merely saying those panels aren't so similar in providing proof that that's where the scene inspiration came from. :cwink:

Not exactly the same scene, I agree but the idea of Batman shooting someone in the head due to a hostage situation sure did inspire it.
 
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