Batman & Robin The Official Batman & Robin Thread - Part 1

I loved BOTH of his Bat-films... no shame, no justification, no rationalization.

They were campy, fun, high concept joys.

I think there are alot of people who feel the same way.

At this point, we've had so many different iterations of Batman since B&R. Some have taken the character from uber dark with Nolan to uber funny with Lego, Brave and Bold, and the Adam West and Burt Ward reunion cartoons.

At this point, people accept that Batman is a malleable character ,and that there's room to respect and love all different types of interpretations at the same time.

With all that's happened since the 90s, I'd find it very strange for someone to still be angry about Batman and Robin .
 
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Could Poison Ivy have been made a lot more sympathetic without changing the film much? How different may the film have been if she didn't have a poison kiss or could she be much more sympathetic even with the poison kiss?
 
Rewatching this masterpiece for the first time within a decade...

How can one not love the only film that gives us CLOSE UP butt/crotch shots of Bats and Nightwing? 2mins into the film at that. That's equality right there.
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Freeze is like the cold version of Lord Zedd...he even has his own frozen Putty Patrol. Batman on ice...who would think that we'd ever see that in the 90s?

Lord...this film is just full of cheesy one-liners. How it approved by the studio...is beyond me.

I love how Barbara is now Alfreds niece...whose grown up in England but lacks any type of accent.

Uma Thurman just kills it as Ivy. What I would give to have her/Michelles Catwoman/Margots Harley all team up. Give me the animated film.

So much is going on in this movie...storylines out the padded bat butt!

One thing I will always appreciate the 90s Batfilms for is not being afraid of the Bat family. Even if they were somewhat forced into Robin. We've had 5 Batman appearances on the big screen since then and its time to bring them back into the big screen fold.
 
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It's interesting that they had Barbara wear a cowl for all of 2 seconds in the film but then are like "you know what...we have Alicia Silverstone and you dont cover up her face"
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I have to say...even though this is probably the weakest Batman movie in existence, it is a very fun one at the end of the day and I am a little sad that we didnt get a 5th one with everyone lol.

As always the studio likes to do some major interference with their DC films and this wasnt different. "Make it friendlier to kids! Help us sell more toys!" the fact that they had to work with the toy company with the designs for this film is just wow.
 
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I do like the earnestness of this film as I feel like the cast are all enjoying themselves. That's why I've always preferred it to Forever. Val Kilmer seemed miserable in the film and it shows.

Clooney on the other hand seemed happy to be there. I'd like to see him cameo in the multiverse if he fancied it but he's probably way beyond it at this point.
 
I do like the earnestness of this film as I feel like the cast are all enjoying themselves. That's why I've always preferred it to Forever. Val Kilmer seemed miserable in the film and it shows.

Clooney on the other hand seemed happy to be there. I'd like to see him cameo in the multiverse if he fancied it but he's probably way beyond it at this point.

Watching the special features (where they are somewhat brutally honest) George says himself that he wasnt comfortable with the darkness of Batman so being able to be a lighter version helped him immensely. Which is something I dont mind. Especially when it comes to Bruce, I like him to not feel dead inside.
 
Watching the special features (where they are somewhat brutally honest) George says himself that he wasnt comfortable with the darkness of Batman so being able to be a lighter version helped him immensely. Which is something I dont mind. Especially when it comes to Bruce, I like him to not feel dead inside.
Bruce looking out for other people because he can see beyond his own pain has always appealed to me. For example how Bruce is portrayed in the animated Justice League War is what I was hoping Batffleck would be, where Bruce is a calm mentor to those around him.

Bruce being a seasoned, wise, father figure in his 40s seems like such a natural take that I'm surprised it hasn't been done more. Bale came close and I would have liked to have seen him mentoring someone after TDKR.
 
It's so funny that one of the actors who would make a PERFECT Bane..ends up being cast as Freeze. But Arnold looked great as an Xtreme Freeze.
 
I've embraced this over the years. Definetly the weakest batman movie but don't want to say the worse as in all bad. I can accept it and enjoy the fun for what it is! I prefer dark batman and all that but it is nice to relax a bit sometimes and go on a fun ride with Bruce for a change. This was basically the live action catalyst prototype for The Brave and The Bold and that show is also a guilty pleasure batman thing for me.

The movie really is actually beautiful and creative. I never actually hated Freeze in this because I was/am and always will be a massive Arnold Schwarzenegger fan. Oh and I actually honestly prefer this look for Bane in live action than Bane in TDKR!
 
Would the movie have been better, more coherent with this goofy Mr. Freeze just being a greedy crook, not having the background and motivation of wanting to save his wife?
 
B&R is honestly my third favorite of all the Bat films.
I have so many thoughts on it and on the whole reception of Schumacher bat films and how he was treated.

Maybe I’ll write it all down or do a video on it sometime.
 
I like the look of the B&R Bane action figure a lot more than how he actually looked in the film.
 

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