The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 1

[Docker2.0]

I'm glad Pascal won I thought he might do as well. Bute has been overrated by many folks.

By the way Pascal want's nothing to do with Adonis Stevenson.

Bute did look good years ago but Froch just killed his manhood. He's a shot fighter now. He looked afraid of Pascal. Pascal does look good working with Roy Jones but you are right, he wanted nothing to do with Stevenson. Isn't Stevenson and Kovalev suppose to fight before May?

 

[Fallen Angel]

Bute did look good years ago but Froch just killed his manhood. He's a shot fighter now. He looked afraid of Pascal. Pascal does look good working with Roy Jones but you are right, he wanted nothing to do with Stevenson. Isn't Stevenson and Kovalev suppose to fight before May?

I didn't know Pascal began working with Roy Jones.



Stevenson V Kovalev they aint fighting each other nothings been confirmed as of yet. But Kovalev did call Stevenson out last year.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Bute did look good years ago but Froch just killed his manhood. He's a shot fighter now. He looked afraid of Pascal. Pascal does look good working with Roy Jones but you are right, he wanted nothing to do with Stevenson. Isn't Stevenson and Kovalev suppose to fight before May?

Froch and his PEDs are an embarrassment to the sport.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Froch and his PEDs are an embarrassment to the sport.

Innocent until caught my friend. They do drug testing before and during camp, pre and post fight.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Innocent until caught my friend. They do drug testing before and during camp, pre and post fight.

Is that really what you are going with? His body completely changed in his mid-30s. Only idiots with stupid coaches mess up the test. Even VADA misses stuff.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Is that really what you are going with? His body completely changed in his mid-30s. Only idiots with stupid coaches mess up the test. Even VADA misses stuff.

Yes I do because I can't go on anything else. Rumours here and there but if he hasn't been caught in post fight testing then it's very unlikely he's taken something. Unless he took something that has yet to be discovered by VADA,WADA and any other Anti doping organisation.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes I do because I can't go on anything else. Rumours here and there but if he hasn't been caught in post fight testing then it's very unlikely he's taken something. Unless he took something that has yet to be discovered by VADA,WADA and any other Anti doping organisation

Are you joking? Because one, I don't remember Froch ever doing VADA or WADA testing. Second, all the baseball players from Bio-genesis say hi. As does Tony Bosch.

I honestly can't believe you just made that argument.

 

[Docker2.0]

Froch and his PEDs are an embarrassment to the sport.

Was he really? It didn't help with Ward.

Crap! I shouldn't have said that. Now Iron Stark will accuse of saying that only because Ward is black.

 

[Iron_Stark]

I don't know man. I give both of those guys punching chances against Ward. But honestly, I can't blame Ward for not going up. All the big money fights are 168 and below. If he fought Adonis or Kovalev, for a boxing purist like us, we'd love it. But it's not a ppv fight. If Ward fought Chavez, GGG, or Sergio....those are ppv fights. Noone above him has that kind of drawing power.

There is so much wrong with this post its almost laughable. You want him to fight two guys that are already small middleweights with one being at the tail end of his career, and have them go up in weight, and fight another that's a lazy pot head that is living off his father's name that YOU called a disgrace and everything wrong with the sport, but yet should be in a PPV fight with the #2 p4p fighter in the world? Talk about the Mayweather syndrome, don't fight for legacy, only for your bank account.

But stay away from the challenges a weight class up.

Translation: Get as much money as he can fighting the easiest fights possible while avoiding real challenges.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Are you joking? Because one, I don't remember Froch ever doing VADA or WADA testing. Second, all the baseball players from Bio-genesis say hi. As does Tony Bosch.

I honestly can't believe you just made that argument.

Maybe I'm too naive then.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Was he really? It didn't help with Ward.

Crap! I shouldn't have said that. Now Iron Stark will accuse of saying that only because Ward is black.

Ward just too good for that crap. Sadly he seems to be made of tissue paper. Always hurt.

Maybe I'm too naive then.

I'd agree with that. His body changed quite a bit. He put on solid muscle he never had before.

 

[Docker2.0]

Is that really what you are going with? His body completely changed in his mid-30s. Only idiots with stupid coaches mess up the test. Even VADA misses stuff.

Well just to play devil's advocate, a lot of guys tend to train differently as they get older. Look at JMM and his body at 40. Sometimes passion and rage make you do things you've never done before. But I will say that thanks to Bosch and Conti, you can look at every player with suspicion of steroid use. Particular Lebron James who never ever gets hurt or tired.

See Iron Stark! I called out a black guy.

 

[Iron_Stark]

JMM is definitely on something.

wait maybe I shouldn't say that because I'll get accused of being a Pac fan.

See Docker2.0, I called out someone that isn't Maywether!

 

[Docker2.0]

There is so much wrong with this post its almost laughable. You want him to fight two guys that are already small middleweights with one being at the tail end of his career, and have them go up in weight, and fight another that's a lazy pot head that is living off his father's name that YOU called a disgrace and everything wrong with the sport, but yet should be in a PPV fight with the #2 p4p fighter in the world? Talk about the Mayweather syndrome, don't fight for legacy, only for your bank account.

But stay away from the challenges a weight class up.

Translation: Get as much money as he can fighting the easiest fights possible while avoiding real challenges.

Right on que! Amazing how you find a way to bash Ward and Floyd. Ward cleaned out his division with ease so now he should go up?! Not to mention he's only fought like once in a year and a half.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Zert5VaWk

 

[Fallen Angel]

Juan Manuel Marquez there's been rumours of doping since 09. seriously are we going to call into question everyone who suddenly turn into a monster puncher?

 

[Docker2.0]

JMM is definitely on something.

wait maybe I shouldn't say that because I'll get accused of being a Pac fan.

See Docker2.0, I called out someone that isn't Maywether!

Why yes you are. So don't back track now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well just to play devil's advocate, a lot of guys tend to train differently as they get older. Look at JMM and his body at 40. Sometimes passion and rage make you do things you've never done before. But I will say that thanks to Bosch and Conti, you can look at every player with suspicion of steroid use. Particular Lebron James who never ever gets hurt or tired.

See Iron Stark! I called out a black guy.

I love JMM. He is up there with Mosley, Morales and Cotto for my favorite fighter from the last 15 years. Everyone knows how he bulked up, just like everyone knows how Manny carried his power up the divisions. Why Manny's body has started to breakdown rapidly.

 

[Docker2.0]

Juan Manuel Marquez there's been rumours of doping since 09. seriously are we going to call into question everyone who suddenly turn into a monster puncher?

JMM wasn't really ever a monster puncher and he wasn't with Paq. That punch was perfectly timed. I honestly don't believe JMM was on anything. He begged people to test him before and after the fight. Have you seen him interviews prior to the fight?! Dude look possessed and couldn't wait to get in the ring. Plus it's debatable if Paq won the first 3 fights. Had JMM not gone down in most, he could have been declared the clear winner. I honestly don't think he's on anything.

 

[Fallen Angel]

JMM wasn't really ever a monster puncher and he wasn't with Paq. That punch was perfectly timed. I honestly don't believe JMM was on anything. He begged people to test him before and after the fight. Have you seen him interviews prior to the fight?! Dude look possessed and couldn't wait to get in the ring. Plus it's debatable if Paq won the first 3 fights. Had JMM not gone down in most, he could have been declared the clear winner. I honestly don't think he's on anything.

I don't believe it as well man but those rumours with JMM have been there and it spread after he KO'd Pacman with a sweet, sweet punch.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The knockout wasn't the anomaly. It was the first knockdown.

 

[Docker2.0]

The knockout wasn't the anomaly. It was the first knockdown.

Maybe I'm drunk already, I am drinking the Bacardi while watching the NFL but I didn't understand this post. The first knockdown was the anomaly? Please clarify.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Maybe I'm drunk already, I am drinking the Bacardi while watching the NFL but I didn't understand this post. The first knockdown was the anomaly? Please clarify.

That was a knockdown of muscle, not timing.

 

[Docker2.0]

That was a knockdown of muscle, not timing.

I thought it was of balance actually. Paq's defense sucks. He's all offense, which is why him and Mayweather are the perfect storm. Pure offense vs pure defense. In all of their fights, JMM never had problems hitting Manny. This is quite possibly the first time Manny hasn't been on the juice and we see how he looks without it.

Oh yeah! I went there.

 

[Docker2.0]

I'm still going on record to say the Manny-Floyd fight happens next May. There's a reason that both of these guys are talking now more than ever of fighting each other and neither of their fights have been announced. They will both fight in April and May but I can guarantee you they will fight in September or next May. I wouldn't be surprised if dirty Bob Arum tries to dirty up Manny's name with steroid use or a lose in April with bias judging. He's just that dirty.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Maybe I'm drunk already, I am drinking the Bacardi while watching the NFL but I didn't understand this post. The first knockdown was the anomaly? Please clarify.

Well that explains your nonsensical posts.

NFL huh, its funny Lara fans be like 'cool the Seahawks won, lets hope Denver plays San Fran in the Superbowl'.

Mayweather fans be like 'Seahawks won! Cool, now I hope they play the Browns in the Superbowl'!