The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 1

[Iron_Stark]

Once again, Ward needing to "grow a set" is ridiculous to the point of lunacy. So now you're saying he's scared of GGG or something? You're a piece of work. Is every black, undefeated boxer a coward to you or something? SMH...



Should take your own advice. I've answered you for numerous years now, you have yet to do the same for your hero Paq-man

You haven't answered sh-, I want to know who these HoF fighters that Fraud was destroying between Castillo and DelaHoya. So far you've given me 3 bums with one of then fighting before Castillo beat Mayweather.


Not saying Ward is afraid of GGG, just afraid to fight out of his confort zone.

And seriously, you two clowns are going to rag on GGG for not going up in weight and fight the best available, while praise Fraud for making the Khan fight? Smh

 

[Docker2.0]

Ward should first grow a set of balls and fight outside of Oakland. He'd never call out GGG, he's hoping to get Chavez Jr also. Infact all these guys trying to call out Chavez Jr reek of desperation for a big paycheck.




Chop Chop and Augustus were bums, plain and simple, on that night or another night Margarito, Rios, Clottey or Bradley kick his ass, in more spectacular fashion than Mayweather, since that's Frauds M.O.

Zab and brilliant should NEVER be used in the same sentence, he couldn't beat Baldomere for Fs sake.

Quit trying to build up fighters that suck. Again answer my question on Mayweathers supposed murderers row that he was defeating between Castillo and De la Hoya.

Man you sound crazier with every post you post! You don't even deserve to post in this thread any more.

 

[Docker2.0]

You haven't answered sh-, I want to know who these HoF fighters that Fraud was destroying between Castillo and DelaHoya. So far you've given me 3 bums with one of then fighting before Castillo beat Mayweather.


Not saying Ward is afraid of GGG, just afraid to fight out of his confort zone.

And seriously, you two clowns are going to rag on GGG for not going up in weight and fight the best available, while praise Fraud for making the Khan fight? Smh

Sorry but Floyd didn't say he'd fight anyone from 154-168, GGG did. Floyd is naturally a 147 lb fighter and went up to fight Cotto and Canelo. If he beat GGG, first thing you'd say is he's not ready yet, the same that is being said about Canelo. If he beat Manny tomorrow, you'd say he waited to late. There is no pleasing "fans" like you.

 

[Iron_Stark]

No just you Flomos who are very hypocritical when it comes to Fraud. You Flomos call Rios a walking punching bag while praise Khan, you Flomos call rag on GGG for not going up one weightclass and fight Ward while make a million excuses for Fraud not to fight Lara or GGG.

Its the delusional Flomos that need to get off the internet with their biased ass opinions that they try to come off as facts.

 

[Doc Samson]

You Flomos call Rios a walking punching bag while praise Khan, you Flomos call rag on GGG for not going up one weightclass and fight Ward while make a million excuses for Fraud not to fight Lara or GGG.

Who. Praised. Khan. As. A. Serious. Threat? Please explain where you're getting that?

 

[Docker2.0]

For people(like Iron Stark)saying that Mayweather made the steroids excuse to avoid fighting Manny...........well it looks like Freddie Roach is kind of backing up those claims. I will say that ever since Mayweather brought up those claims, he really hasn't been knocking guys out has he? Again, I like Manny but it's the Manny fanatics(like Iron Stark)who make me bring up these articles and facts(unlike Stark)who just seem to spout out opinions without backing them up.

http://fighthype.com/news/article15910.html

 

[Fallen Angel]

Canelo Alvarez vs Alfredo Angulo on March 8 @ 154lb confirmed today.

 

[Docker2.0]

You know...............as much as I think that fight shouldn't be on ppv, I ain't even going to lie to myself: I'm going to buy it. Golden Boy has done great with their PPV undercards and I'm hoping this is the same. Broner/Maidana rematch is suppose to take place in April as well so here's hoping it's on the same card.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No just you Flomos who are very hypocritical when it comes to Fraud. You Flomos call Rios a walking punching bag while praise Khan, you Flomos call rag on GGG for not going up one weightclass and fight Ward while make a million excuses for Fraud not to fight Lara or GGG.

Its the delusional Flomos that need to get off the internet with their biased ass opinions that they try to come off as facts.

Floyd talks crap and sells his fights. Most intelligent people don't take it seriously. IMO he is the best fighter in the world but he is in the business to make money. He fights good opponents at his weight, but he makes them look horrible because he is just much better then the vast majority.

Those that feel the need to discredit Floyd are just hilarious imo. Usually it comes from Manny fans who still can't handle that he was murdered my JMM.

Here is the truth. Both men's last 10 fights are not dissimilar. In fact, they are quite comparable, with 5 opponent's being the same. The only major difference is that Manny arguable lost to a guy twice that Floyd didn't lose 1 second to.

 

[Iron_Stark]

For people(like Iron Stark)saying that Mayweather made the steroids excuse to avoid fighting Manny...........well it looks like Freddie Roach is kind of backing up those claims. I will say that ever since Mayweather brought up those claims, he really hasn't been knocking guys out has he? Again, I like Manny but it's the Manny fanatics(like Iron Stark)who make me bring up these articles and facts(unlike Stark)who just seem to spout out opinions without backing them up.

http://fighthype.com/news/article15910.html

1. You better keep my name out of your goddamn mouth with these accusations!

2. Is it not true that Fraud and his camp made steroids an excuse not to fight Pac or at least make it a hurdle?

3. I've said it before and I'll say it again, EVRYBODY involved is responsible for the fight not getting made, not just Arum, not just Fraud and not just Pac. Everybody.

4. It's all sour grapes with Roach, Has Pac been caught using steroids? Where's the evidence? And this is what you believe him? All those times he kept saying Mayweather doesn't want the fight it's "Oh Freddy Roach is lying" but this is what you believe from him? ****


And for the last F_ing time, I'm not a Pac fan, I watch his fights like I watch Mayweather fights(if either have decent opponents) or any boxing fight, but I never have claimed to be a Pac fan. Not especially since beating the boxers I was a huge fanatic of (Morales & Cotto). I don't know where the hell you or your sister Doc Samson got the notion I'm a Pactard aka Pacfanatics. I hate Broner, does that make me a Maidana fanatic as well? No I just hate those type of loudmouth punks that talk trash and beat up on women.

Also Mayweather has been accused of using steroids, it wasn't huge news like Pac, but he hasn't had a knockout since '07. The Ortiz suckerpunch doesn't count. You think he doesn't get knockout because he doesn't take steroids?

Canelo Alvarez vs Alfredo Angulo on March 8 @ 154lb confirmed today.

That shouldn't be on PPV, the fight should be a war, but not for $60 with what's shaping up to be a crappy under card.


Also LOL at Broner wanting the rematch, the first one was a one sided ass kicking from pilar to post. Maidana showed him who his real daddy was, this one is going to end up in a brutal KO by Maidana or Broner running for dear life claiming he got robbed. No way is he going to stand infront of his daddy.

Who. Praised. Khan. As. A. Serious. Threat? Please explain where you're getting that?

Well you two clowns sure seem think this over priced sparring match is worth buying. Also this fight is more than likely going to end up at the MGM Grand like Fraud said in the interview YOU posted. So no this fight isn't about brand recognition or filling up Wembley Staduim or any crap like that, it's about Fraud conning people into buying this joke of a fight. An easy payday, and a bum to pad his record and meet his contractual obligaton. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[Docker2.0]

Wait..........sour grapes from Roach?! He's his freakin current trainer so how can this possibly be sour grapes?! Did you even listen to him or does your hate for Floyd blind you that much.

PS- why are you going with the threats? it's only posting sir.

 

[Doc Samson]

Well you two clowns sure seem think this over priced sparring match is worth buying. Also this fight is more than likely going to end up at the MGM Grand like Fraud said in the interview YOU posted. So no this fight isn't about brand recognition or filling up Wembley Staduim or any crap like that, it's about Fraud conning people into buying this joke of a fight. An easy payday, and a bum to pad his record and meet his contractual obligaton. Nothing more nothing less.

Once again, who the hell said that?! I know I sure didn't. And even if the fight is still here in the states, the fact that Khan has that following is enough (in Floyd's mind) to warrant the match. Not saying I think that, but just like the Hatton fight, loads of UK fans will flood whatever venue they decide to have it at.

Oh yeah, more nuggets of wisdom from Freddie Roach, who basically confirms what I've suspected the last 3-5 years. They've been purposely selecting past Mayweather opponents, with hopes of beating them in a more "spectacular" fashion. Guess they figure that is gonna somehow make the fight with Floyd happen sooner

So looks like Guerrero, the same guy you just called a bum, is up next for your hero. Let me guess, it's a better fight than Mayweather-Khan though, isn't it?:

http://fighthype.com/news/article15911.html

 

[Docker2.0]

He's going to ignore facts. He actually called Freddie Roach of having "sour grapes" about his current fighter. CURRENT fighter! That makes absolutely no sense!!!

 

[Iron_Stark]

Once again, who the hell said that?! I know I sure didn't. And even if the fight is still here in the states, the fact that Khan has that following is enough (in Floyd's mind) to warrant the match. Not saying I think that, but just like the Hatton fight, loads of UK fans will flood whatever venue they decide to have it at.

Oh yeah, more nuggets of wisdom from Freddie Roach, who basically confirms what I've suspected the last 3-5 years. They've been purposely selecting past Mayweather opponents, with hopes of beating them in a more "spectacular" fashion. Guess they figure that is gonna somehow make the fight with Floyd happen sooner

So looks like Guerrero, the same guy you just called a bum, is up next for your hero. Let me guess, it's a better fight than Mayweather-Khan though, isn't it?:

http://fighthype.com/news/article15911.html

Your sister Docker said it was worth buying, and I don't hear any complaints from you about this fight. Where are the complaints that this fight sucks?

My hero? Moron, go back and look at my previous post, there are other fighters out there besides Pac. Where have I ever said Pac was my favorite fighter, that I rooted for hin in every fight? Quote me!

But yes, hell yes taking on Guerrero would be better than Khan. Guerrero's dad kicking Floyd Sr's ass would be more exciting than Fraud/Kahn.

Loads of UK fans will not flood to this garbage, quit trying to make them out to be as stupid as the Flomos. This fight will do worse than the Guerrero fight. But it's his only hope to sell this fight, I mean he doesn't have a Mexican fighter to fight with, so there goes most of his ppv buys, he doesn't fight black fighters and if he did it wouldn't sell, so his only hope left is to con a country into thinking their bum of a fighter has a chance at winning.

Funny how you two come here blast GGG and Martinez for not going up in weight to challenge Ward and for calling out Chavez Jr, yet don't say a goddamn word for Floyd to fight Lara or think he's too small for GGG and Martinez, even Ward, never said a word for him not going up in weight to challenge Adonis Stevenson or any of the light hw guys.

 

[Doc Samson]

Your sister Docker said it was worth buying, and I don't hear any complaints from you about this fight. Where are the complaints that this fight sucks?

Actually, you didn't hear anything about this fight from me, good or bad. I never said I thought it was going to be great or that it would suck, I'm indifferent to it. I simply explained why it would probably happen.

My hero? Moron, go back and look at my previous post, there are other fighters out there besides Pac. Where have I ever said Pac was my favorite fighter, that I rooted for hin in every fight? Quote me!

You've been defending Pacquiao on here for the past 3-4 years at least. Quit trying to back off him now that he got his ass knocked out. You were in here proclaiming how much greater he was than Floyd because he faced Clottey & Margarito . You made excuses on why his decision wins against JMM were valid, you made excuses for his reasons of not accepting random drug testing when it was first brought up, you've defended the opponents he's faced, his legacy, everything. You've sucked him off more than anyone I've ever seen in here, gimme a break.

But yes, hell yes taking on Guerrero would be better than Khan. Guerrero's dad kicking Floyd Sr's ass would be more exciting than Fraud/Kahn.

And how is that? According to you, Guerrero was a no-talent bum that was made to order for Floyd. Now he's supposed to be a challenge for your hero?

Loads of UK fans will not flood to this garbage, quit trying to make them out to be as stupid as the Flomos. This fight will do worse than the Guerrero fight. But it's his only hope to sell this fight, I mean he doesn't have a Mexican fighter to fight with, so there goes most of his ppv buys, he doesn't fight black fighters and if he did it wouldn't sell, so his only hope left is to con a country into thinking their bum of a fighter has a chance at winning.

The UK fans are his fans lol, how would they be stupid for rooting for their guy in a fight? Were you stupid for rooting for Paq all these years?

But yeah, of course, Floyd looks for fighters with big fan bases so that he makes more money. In the smaller weight classes, the majority of popular fighters are Puerto Rican or Mexican. Every boxing promoter has done the same thing for eons. I think there's enough Puerto Rican/Mexican fight cards to make that clear.

Funny how you two come here blast GGG and Martinez for not going up in weight to challenge Ward and for calling out Chavez Jr, yet don't say a goddamn word for Floyd to fight Lara or think he's too small for GGG and Martinez, even Ward, never said a word for him not going up in weight to challenge Adonis Stevenson or any of the light hw guys.

The only reason I bring those things up is because you're so outrageous with your Floyd hate. You make it seem like he's the only one who doesn't fight every and anybody remotely close to his weight. When you start acting like that, somebody needs to show you otherwise...

 

[the last son]

Floyd is definitely in my top boxers I've ever witnessed. I'm not much of an historian like most of you all so I can't go back too much past Ali. My list is like this off the top of my head.

Ali
Tyson
Mayweather
Jones jr
Calazaghe

 

[Docker2.0]

He's definitely the best of this era. I don't even think its close.

 

[the last son]

Of course. Who else would even be in the discussion?

 

[Iron_Stark]

Actually, you didn't hear anything about this fight from me, good or bad. I never said I thought it was going to be great or that it would suck, I'm indifferent to it. I simply explained why it would probably happen.



You've been defending Pacquiao on here for the past 3-4 years at least. Quit trying to back off him now that he got his ass knocked out. You were in here proclaiming how much greater he was than Floyd because he faced Clottey & Margarito . You made excuses on why his decision wins against JMM were valid, you made excuses for his reasons of not accepting random drug testing when it was first brought up, you've defended the opponents he's faced, his legacy, everything. You've sucked him off more than anyone I've ever seen in here, gimme a break.


And how is that? According to you, Guerrero was a no-talent bum that was made to order for Floyd. Now he's supposed to be a challenge for your hero?

The UK fans are his fans lol, how would they be stupid for rooting for their guy in a fight? Were you stupid for rooting for Paq all these years?

But yeah, of course, Floyd looks for fighters with big fan bases so that he makes more money. In the smaller weight classes, the majority of popular fighters are Puerto Rican or Mexican. Every boxing promoter has done the same thing for eons. I think there's enough Puerto Rican/Mexican fight cards to make that clear.


The only reason I bring those things up is because you're so outrageous with your Floyd hate. You make it seem like he's the only one who doesn't fight every and anybody remotely close to his weight. When you start acting like that, somebody needs to show you otherwise...

Get the F outta here with your nonsense. After Pac got knocked out I said it was sweet justice for JMM for the robberies he's gotten. Yes I think he got robbed in those fights, just like Castillo got robbed in his first fight with Fraud. Unlike you and your sister, I'm not a hypocrite.

The only praise or the main praise I've only given Pac is when I would say he beat Frauds common opponents in better fashion.

Quote me where I called Guerrero a no talent bum. Find the post number and quote me. Otherwise **** and quit putting words in my mouth. And whether Guerrero is a bum or not, he's leagues above Khan.

Atleast its good to know I've been right all along, Fraud fights for money and only money, cherry picks his opponents and doesn't care about going down in history as an atg.

 

[the last son]

I haven't been following the discussion, but I'm just going to reply to the claim that JMM was robbed. I didn't have him winning any of the other three fights.

 

[Docker2.0]

Ignore Iron Stark. As you can see, when you start to post facts, he tends to resort to name calling. But we disagree about JMM. I think he won at least 3 of those fights with one being a draw.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Ignore Iron Stark. As you can see, when you start to post facts, he tends to resort to name calling. But we disagree about JMM. I think he won at least 3 of those fights with one being a draw.

What facts have you and your sister posted? The only things you two post are obvious bias towards black fighters and hypocrisy.

 

[Doc Samson]

Get the F outta here with your nonsense. After Pac got knocked out I said it was sweet justice for JMM for the robberies he's gotten. Yes I think he got robbed in those fights, just like Castillo got robbed in his first fight with Fraud. Unlike you and your sister, I'm not a hypocrite.

You NEVER acknowledged JMM getting robbed until after their 3rd fight. Before that fight, you made excuses as to why he shouldn't have won the first two. Stop.

Quote me where I called Guerrero a no talent bum.

As you wish:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=22283117

You said this here:
"And who cares how young Ortiz and Guerrero, neither are elite fighters, they're the same caliber fighter of guys like Judah, Sosa. Ndou and other cans that Mayweather made a career of beating."
http://forums.superherohype.com/archive/index.php/t-393453-p-2.html

And this here:

Guerrero or Ortiz? You think they're world beaters?

Mind you, that was a 5 minute search while I was at work, I'm certain I can find more. The words can be different, the meaning is the same, you think Guerrero isn't a good fighter at all. So you can ****! I'm tired of you, and everything that spills out of your computer/phone/pad whatever.

Speaking of pads, you might as well wear one, you're emotional just like a little b****. Talking about bias? You're the only one in here with a clear dislike for black fighters, it's not even up for debate.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

You know...............as much as I think that fight shouldn't be on ppv, I ain't even going to lie to myself: I'm going to buy it. Golden Boy has done great with their PPV undercards and I'm hoping this is the same. Broner/Maidana rematch is suppose to take place in April as well so here's hoping it's on the same card.

Agreed, I don't purchase many PPV fight usually I just stream them, but if they add Maidana/Broner to that already stacked card I would buy it.

 

[Docker2.0]

You NEVER acknowledged JMM getting robbed until after their 3rd fight. Before that fight, you made excuses as to why he shouldn't have won the first two. Stop.



As you wish:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=22283117

You said this here:
"And who cares how young Ortiz and Guerrero, neither are elite fighters, they're the same caliber fighter of guys like Judah, Sosa. Ndou and other cans that Mayweather made a career of beating."
http://forums.superherohype.com/archive/index.php/t-393453-p-2.html

And this here:


Mind you, that was a 5 minute search while I was at work, I'm certain I can find more. The words can be different, the meaning is the same, you think Guerrero isn't a good fighter at all. So you can ****! I'm tired of you, and everything that spills out of your computer/phone/pad whatever.

Speaking of pads, you might as well wear one, you're emotional just like a little b****. Talking about bias? You're the only one in here with a clear dislike for black fighters, it's not even up for debate.

OH SNAP!! Way to make dude go silent!

What facts have you and your sister posted? The only things you two post are obvious bias towards black fighters and hypocrisy.

Wow. I don't think anyone in this thread has ever brought up race, but I maybe wrong. To say we are supporting Mayweather because he's black is completely asinine! You sound more and more like a moron by bringing race into this.