The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 2

[Docker2.0]

Shouldn't he be allowed to get one big payday? That's what GGG is chasing so why can't Ward? And besides, no Middleweight is going to fight GGG because he's bigger than the big names except Quillen which I see him beating quite easily. I'd love to see him fight Lara though. I've yet to see GGG fight any true boxer, only sluggers.

 

[Doc Samson]

And if Ward really beats GGG with no problem, then why are you two clamoring for that fight? Why always bring up Ward when GGG is being discussed???

There is nobody in Ward's division left to fight, if he's really as great as everyone claims he is then go up in weight and clean out the 175 division. Fight all the guys there, quit calling out smaller guys or making guys drain themselves.

Once again, I don't know where I've ever said a Ward/GGG match was something I wanted to see. I do, however, have an issue when guys like GGG are marketed as "the most feared" this and that, "nobody wants to fight him" blah blah blah & clearly Ward's been shut down more than once.

I believe the latest from GGG and/or his team was that the "timing wasn't right". If nothing else, I've been in here for years now, and anytime you know who said anything remotely like that, you blew your top. I don't like downplaying guys like GGG but they always seem to have one just like him every few years, and they always get overrated.

Granted, at least he's a medalist but everything else hits all the bullet points. Coming from another country, fighting a bunch of guys nobody knows from those other places, lands in the States and starts knocking out tailor-made, slow plodding brawlers who come straight ahead and block with their face.

Until he gets in the ring with somebody who won't do that, I'm not getting excited. Simply put, if he wants that challenge, Ward is there. If not, then so be it, but don't go around saying you have the boxing world afraid of you either. Ward said it best himself:

"My only thing is this....I'm not the type of guy to bully other fighters or look for guys in lower weight classes."

"But they went on the record and they've campaigned for years that [Golovkin] will fight anybody from 154 to 175...anybody...and anybody means anybody. So I said that I have no problem fighting Golovkin and now all of a sudden it's a campaign to stay at 160."

"My thing was just simply don't bring my name up constantly if you don't want to fight. I'm no bully. I'm not chasing no 160 pounders or 154 pounders. When I keep hearing my name come up and I'm out and about and fans are asking me about it I put the pressure on Golovkin's team. I said man listen, either step up or stop bringing my name up."

 

[Iron_Stark]

So that's what it is now, just a payday?

Earlier you talked crap about GGG not fighting Lara because that's a high risk low reward, yet don't want Ward to fight any 175ers because they're high risk low reward?

So which is it? Fight for money or glory?

Funny how all the Ward and Floyd fans are all the same, they become their accountants, nutritionist, manager, match maker.

 

[Docker2.0]

Once again, I don't know where I've ever said a Ward/GGG match was something I wanted to see. I do, however, have an issue when guys like GGG are marketed as "the most feared" this and that, "nobody wants to fight him" blah blah blah & clearly Ward's been shut down more than once.

I believe the latest from GGG and/or his team was that the "timing wasn't right". If nothing else, I've been in here for years now, and anytime you know who said anything remotely like that, you blew your top. I don't like downplaying guys like GGG but they always seem to have one just like him every few years, and they always get overrated.

Granted, at least he's a medalist but everything else hits all the bullet points. Coming from another country, fighting a bunch of guys nobody knows from those other places, lands in the States and starts knocking out tailor-made, slow plodding brawlers who come straight ahead and block with their face.

Until he gets in the ring with somebody who won't do that, I'm not getting excited. Simply put, if he wants that challenge, Ward is there. If not, then so be it, but don't go around saying you have the boxing world afraid of you either. Ward said it best himself:

"My only thing is this....I'm not the type of guy to bully other fighters or look for guys in lower weight classes."

"But they went on the record and they've campaigned for years that [Golovkin] will fight anybody from 154 to 175...anybody...and anybody means anybody. So I said that I have no problem fighting Golovkin and now all of a sudden it's a campaign to stay at 160."

"My thing was just simply don't bring my name up constantly if you don't want to fight. I'm no bully. I'm not chasing no 160 pounders or 154 pounders. When I keep hearing my name come up and I'm out and about and fans are asking me about it I put the pressure on Golovkin's team. I said man listen, either step up or stop bringing my name up."

Spot. On. Half of the guys GGG fought, no one has heard of. Again, not knocking him but come on. He has yet to fight any true boxer, only come forward brawlers. The closest to a true boxer he has fought was Curtis Stevens and he had him by 3-4 inches and even then he got hit at will. Dude is 32 now so he needs a big fight. All this "timing ain't right with Ward" crap needs to stop. He has yet to be a big name and there have been people calling him out above and below his weight class. He is not the most feared boxer, it's just that his team is chasing the big names for money. And it jus so happens that the big names he wants to fight don't like movement. Canelo, JCC Jr(who wanted to fight him but didn't want the extension, who I've been on record saying would beat GGG)and Cotto are stalking straight forward fighters.

 

[Docker2.0]

So that's what it is now, just a payday?

Earlier you talked crap about GGG not fighting Lara because that's a high risk low reward, yet don't want Ward to fight any 175ers because they're high risk low reward?

So which is it? Fight for money or glory?

Funny how all the Ward and Floyd fans are all the same, they become their accountants, nutritionist, manager, match maker.

It seems like you read what you want to read. Selective reading. You can read an entire paragraph and only comprehend a tiny part of it. First you hated on Mayweather, now Ward is your new whipping boy. First you love Manny now it's GGG. It's clear you don't like boxers only brawlers and knock outs. The object of the game is to hit AND not get hit. If you don't get that, then you don't truly understand boxing.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I almost won the lottery if I got another number right. Not trying to be smart but the truth is no matter how close he came to knocking him out, he got schooled. That fight was not as close as some people say IMHO.

Speaking of Ward's size advantage, Lara also called out GGG but you know what his management's response was? The same he used for Ward. There's no money in that fight. High risk, low reward. Amazing.

Since when is 7-5 on the scorecards "schooled"? Especially when his eye was closed.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Once again, I don't know where I've ever said a Ward/GGG match was something I wanted to see. I do, however, have an issue when guys like GGG are marketed as "the most feared" this and that, "nobody wants to fight him" blah blah blah & clearly Ward's been shut down more than once.

I believe the latest from GGG and/or his team was that the "timing wasn't right". If nothing else, I've been in here for years now, and anytime you know who said anything remotely like that, you blew your top. I don't like downplaying guys like GGG but they always seem to have one just like him every few years, and they always get overrated.

Granted, at least he's a medalist but everything else hits all the bullet points. Coming from another country, fighting a bunch of guys nobody knows from those other places, lands in the States and starts knocking out tailor-made, slow plodding brawlers who come straight ahead and block with their face.

Until he gets in the ring with somebody who won't do that, I'm not getting excited. Simply put, if he wants that challenge, Ward is there. If not, then so be it, but don't go around saying you have the boxing world afraid of you either. Ward said it best himself:

"My only thing is this....I'm not the type of guy to bully other fighters or look for guys in lower weight classes."

"But they went on the record and they've campaigned for years that [Golovkin] will fight anybody from 154 to 175...anybody...and anybody means anybody. So I said that I have no problem fighting Golovkin and now all of a sudden it's a campaign to stay at 160."

"My thing was just simply don't bring my name up constantly if you don't want to fight. I'm no bully. I'm not chasing no 160 pounders or 154 pounders. When I keep hearing my name come up and I'm out and about and fans are asking me about it I put the pressure on Golovkin's team. I said man listen, either step up or stop bringing my name up."

You talk about bullying, yet want Ward to fight GGG, who's the same size as Cotto and Canelo.

And who's marketing him as the most feared? I've never heard anyone outside Ward and Floyd fans call him the most feared.

Is he one of the most exiting fighters? Hell yes he is, he has an exciting style, has a better personality than Ward and isn't a thug, woman beating scumbag like Floyd. So people are going to want to see him, as evident from last weekend's fight, which already outdid more than Ward when he fought at that arena.

It seems like you read what you want to read. Selective reading. You can read an entire paragraph and only comprehend a tiny part of it. First you hated on Mayweather, now Ward is your new whipping boy. First you love Manny now it's GGG. It's clear you don't like boxers only brawlers and knock outs. The object of the game is to hit AND not get hit. If you don't get that, then you don't truly understand boxing.

Oh I understand the "sweet science" plenty, I just don't want to fall asleep watching it.

It's you who needs to understand, Ward may never come back and if he did nobody will notice or care except for diehards. GGG unifying the middleweight division by fighting Cotto/Canelo winner will bring him a huge PPV payday, much larger than fighting Ward on regular HBO. Because that fight would land on regular HBO.

It's YOU who has selective reading and reasoning, according to you, Ward moving up in weight doesn't make sense because he won't be getting a big payday up there and the 175lbers would be too big for him, yet want GGG to move up in weight, fight a way bigger guy in Ward and get a small payday.

Hypocrites, just like your hero Floyd.

 

[Docker2.0]

GGG is not the same size as Cotto. Cotto is not a true Middleweight. Canelo maybe. Do you even follow boxing or do you just read articles on the next big thing?
Also, I said I don't blame Ward to try and get a payday and he could fight SMW as well as LHW. Why go up and close all doors? This way he has options. And you are one to call someone a hypocrit as you cry for Mayweather to fight GGG when Mayweather can't even get over 150 but don't want GGG to go up to fight Ward when GGG said he'd fight anyone from 154-175 but when people call him out, they are wrong. And let's just say for a moment, Ward doesn't count because of his legal battles. There is still Lara and Hopkins who both called him out but he wants no part of those guys, only the money fights. Why? Because both of them are true boxers and would expose him.

 

[Fallen Angel]

You guys should watch this an absolute disgrace. From the European Youth Championship

[YT]watch?v=wjjKnjFZcww[/YT]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

GGG is not the same size as Cotto. Cotto is not a true Middleweight. Canelo maybe. Do you even follow boxing or do you just read articles on the next big thing?
Also, I said I don't blame Ward to try and get a payday and he could fight SMW as well as LHW. Why go up and close all doors? This way he has options. And you are one to call someone a hypocrit as you cry for Mayweather to fight GGG when Mayweather can't even get over 150 but don't want GGG to go up to fight Ward when GGG said he'd fight anyone from 154-175 but when people call him out, they are wrong. And let's just say for a moment, Ward doesn't count because of his legal battles. There is still Lara and Hopkins who both called him out but he wants no part of those guys, only the money fights. Why? Because both of them are true boxers and would expose him.

Bullcrap. Cotto is the holder of the Ring Middleweight crown, making him the legitmate MW champion of the world. It is the only title that counts in boxing these days. So yes, he is a middleweight. If it was ok for him to fight a crippled Sergio for that crown, it is completely ridiculous to argue he shouldn't fight GGG.

And Mayweather should fight GGG, if GGG is willing to fight at 154, because Floyd is the legit (Ring) 154 pound champion.

And lets get this straight, Ward has no options. That is his major problem. He is afraid to move up to 175, there is no one at 168 to fight, and everyone at 160 is too smart to go up for such a risky fight.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You guys should watch this an absolute disgrace. From the European Youth Championship

[YT]watch?v=wjjKnjFZcww[/YT]

Should never box again. Though I feel like the boxer is blue is a bit of coward himself. Should have helped the ref instead of running like his ass was on fire. But then again, these are kids. Props to whoever pulled that piece of trash out of the ring.

 

[Docker2.0]

Bullcrap. Cotto is the holder of the Ring Middleweight crown, making him the legitmate MW champion of the world. It is the only title that counts in boxing these days. So yes, he is a middleweight. If it was ok for him to fight a crippled Sergio for that crown, it is completely ridiculous to argue he shouldn't fight GGG.

And Mayweather should fight GGG, if GGG is willing to fight at 154, because Floyd is the legit (Ring) 154 pound champion.

And lets get this straight, Ward has no options. That is his major problem. He is afraid to move up to 175, there is no one at 168 to fight, and everyone at 160 is too smart to go up for such a risky fight.

If I'm Mayweather and Cotto, I'd give up the belts. Or if I do fight him, I'd have a rehydration clause in the fight. Fight at 154 on fight night. Plus GGG is the one who said he'd fight anyone from 154-175. Mayweather, Cotto, nor Ward said that. Why are you guys overlooking that?

 

[Docker2.0]

Should never box again. Though I feel like the boxer is blue is a bit of coward himself. Should have helped the ref instead of running like his ass was on fire. But then again, these are kids. Props to whoever pulled that piece of trash out of the ring.

I don't blame him. Once security comes in, they will just go straight for a boxer and ask questions later. And in the heat of the moment, they all look alike so why get an ass whooping when you know what happens next. Plus they got a hold of dude within 5 seconds so it is what it is.

 

[Doc Samson]

You talk about bullying, yet want Ward to fight GGG, who's the same size as Cotto and Canelo.

And who's marketing him as the most feared? I've never heard anyone outside Ward and Floyd fans call him the most feared.

Is he one of the most exiting fighters? Hell yes he is, he has an exciting style, has a better personality than Ward and isn't a thug, woman beating scumbag like Floyd. So people are going to want to see him, as evident from last weekend's fight, which already outdid more than Ward when he fought at that arena.

Sigh, you do know how to read quotes right? I didn't say any of that in the bold text, that's a direct quote from Ward. He said he wasn't into bullying, or chasing guys in lower weight classes. But when his name kept being brought up, he wanted to know if they really wanted to fight or not. And if not, then stop mentioning him as a potential opponent. Simple.

Who's marketing him like that? Go to any website or read any article or watch any of his fights and you'll hear the same things. That he's not able to get people to fight him, or that he's the most feared man in boxing today, it's coming from all areas.

By the way, Floyd was fighting in relative obscurity for a good part of the 90's-early 2000s too, only diehards really followed his career at that point. He couldn't get big name fights either, until he started playing a character. Then he got Gatti, then the ball started rolling. Same thing with Hopkins. It only takes one or two big fights to get put on the map, Andre still has time to do that...

If I'm Mayweather and Cotto, I'd give up the belts. Or if I do fight him, I'd have a rehydration clause in the fight. Fight at 154 on fight night. Plus GGG is the one who said he'd fight anyone from 154-175. Mayweather, Cotto, nor Ward said that. Why are you guys overlooking that?

Because it doesn't go with his most feared image. It's only cool to bash Floyd for his perceived "scared" tactics of avoiding fights, it's not nearly as cool to see someone that's a "good guy" do the same thing.

ALL fighters, at one point in time, usually don't take a fight they probably should. I'm not knocking GGG for not getting in there with Ward, I'm not knocking him for saying he'd fight in all these weight classes and then not do it. I'm not even blaming him for the media, they're obviously thirsty for the next big thing, and whether it's Canelo, GGG or somebody else, they're determined to find it. But people just need to be consistent. You can't bash certain fighters for the same thing and then pretend what GGG is doing is something different.

 

[Iron_Stark]

If I'm Mayweather and Cotto, I'd give up the belts. Or if I do fight him, I'd have a rehydration clause in the fight. Fight at 154 on fight night. Plus GGG is the one who said he'd fight anyone from 154-175. Mayweather, Cotto, nor Ward said that. Why are you guys overlooking that?

Ward said he'd fight at 175, I don't know why you're overlooking that?

Like it was already stated, Cotto LINEAL middle weight chsmpion! To say he's too small is stupid and ignorant. And he isn't a b-ch, he'll defend against GGG, Canelo or anyone.

On the other hand, Mayweather may as well retire, he's just holding the 147 and 154 weight classes hostage. Nobody is going to care unless it's against a certain Phillipino fighter and we know that's never going to happen.

 

[Docker2.0]

Sigh, you do know how to read quotes right? I didn't say any of that in the bold text, that's a direct quote from Ward. He said he wasn't into bullying, or chasing guys in lower weight classes. But when his name kept being brought up, he wanted to know if they really wanted to fight or not. And if not, then stop mentioning him as a potential opponent. Simple.

Who's marketing him like that? Go to any website or read any article or watch any of his fights and you'll hear the same things. That he's not able to get people to fight him, or that he's the most feared man in boxing today, it's coming from all areas.

By the way, Floyd was fighting in relative obscurity for a good part of the 90's-early 2000s too, only diehards really followed his career at that point. He couldn't get big name fights either, until he started playing a character. Then he got Gatti, then the ball started rolling. Same thing with Hopkins. It only takes one or two big fights to get put on the map, Andre still has time to do that...




Because it doesn't go with his most feared image. It's only cool to bash Floyd for his perceived "scared" tactics of avoiding fights, it's not nearly as cool to see someone that's a "good guy" do the same thing.

ALL fighters, at one point in time, usually don't take a fight they probably should. I'm not knocking GGG for not getting in there with Ward, I'm not knocking him for saying he'd fight in all these weight classes and then not do it. I'm not even blaming him for the media, they're obviously thirsty for the next big thing, and whether it's Canelo, GGG or somebody else, they're determined to find it. But people just need to be consistent. You can't bash certain fighters for the same thing and then pretend what GGG is doing is something different.

Good post!

Ward said he'd fight at 175, I don't know why you're overlooking that?

Like it was already stated, Cotto LINEAL middle weight chsmpion! To say he's too small is stupid and ignorant. And he isn't a b-ch, he'll defend against GGG, Canelo or anyone.

On the other hand, Mayweather may as well retire, he's just holding the 147 and 154 weight classes hostage. Nobody is going to care unless it's against a certain Phillipino fighter and we know that's never going to happen.

I remember Ward saying he plans to move up eventually and eventually he will. He may not feel he's ready. And to be honest, it doesn't matter. GGG said he'd fight anyone from 154-175. So even if Ward went up, he could still fight GGG. As far as Cotto is concerned, he only wanted that belt for historical reasons. He wanted to be the first Puerto Rican to win it in 4 different divisions. He did it so now I'd move on. He's way to small for that division and he got an aging, broken down Martinez who was clearly not 100%. Had this fight taken place 3 years ago, it would not have been close and I hate saying that because it sounds like an excuse but it's the truth. Cotto has no business being in that division. Same as Floyd fighting at 154 when he can't even make 150.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Well guess what, Cotto is the champion now, so defend it or gtfo. But like I already said, he's not the type to keep the division hostage. He will seek greatness and defend against Canelo or GGG.

Sigh, you do know how to read quotes right? I didn't say any of that in the bold text, that's a direct quote from Ward. He said he wasn't into bullying, or chasing guys in lower weight classes. But when his name kept being brought up, he wanted to know if they really wanted to fight or not. And if not, then stop mentioning him as a potential opponent. Simple.

Who's marketing him like that? Go to any website or read any article or watch any of his fights and you'll hear the same things. That he's not able to get people to fight him, or that he's the most feared man in boxing today, it's coming from all areas.

By the way, Floyd was fighting in relative obscurity for a good part of the 90's-early 2000s too, only diehards really followed his career at that point. He couldn't get big name fights either, until he started playing a character. Then he got Gatti, then the ball started rolling. Same thing with Hopkins. It only takes one or two big fights to get put on the map, Andre still has time to do that...


Because it doesn't go with his most feared image. It's only cool to bash Floyd for his perceived "scared" tactics of avoiding fights, it's not nearly as cool to see someone that's a "good guy" do the same thing.

ALL fighters, at one point in time, usually don't take a fight they probably should. I'm not knocking GGG for not getting in there with Ward, I'm not knocking him for saying he'd fight in all these weight classes and then not do it. I'm not even blaming him for the media, they're obviously thirsty for the next big thing, and whether it's Canelo, GGG or somebody else, they're determined to find it. But people just need to be consistent. You can't bash certain fighters for the same thing and then pretend what GGG is doing is something different.

It's never going to happen, let me repeat, IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

Ward is 30 years old, maybe 31-32 by the time he fights again, he never fights outside of his hometown, he has a super boring style, and a dull personality. He's not the next Mayweather, doubtful he gets near the recognition of Hopkins.

As far as GGG, why go up when he can unify with Cotto and fight Canelo. Fighting Canelo on say Sept. 16 weekend (the other Mexican holiday Canelo IS going to take back) would be huge, especially with all the growing Mexican fans GGG is getting because of his style, it would be a big PPV event. It sure as sh** beats fighting in a half empty arena in Oakland.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Cotto is the legit 160lb champion you are correct as he's got the lineal title. But he isn't a true Middleweight. We all know that. He started off as a Lightweight for heavens sake.

 

[Iron_Stark]

This is an embarrassment. Mayweather gym is the *****iest place on earth. I can't wait for the day Floyd retires, both of the clowns need to leave boxing.

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But if Beiber puts in time and effort, he could compete for the Woman's featherweight championship in a couple of years, maybe not be the champ, but atleast compete.

 

[Docker2.0]

Cotto is the legit 160lb champion you are correct as he's got the lineal title. But he isn't a true Middleweight. We all know that. He started off as a Lightweight for heavens sake.

You are preaching to the choir. Dude just seems to hate pure boxers. Mayweather and Ward could heal the sick and he'd find someone to find fault with them.

This is an embarrassment. Mayweather gym is the *****iest place on earth. I can't wait for the day Floyd retires, both of the clowns need to leave boxing.

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But if Beiber puts in time and effort, he could compete for the Woman's featherweight championship in a couple of years, maybe not be the champ, but atleast compete.

Man, your hate of Mayweather is astounding. It was done in fun and only you would criticize it like it was a legit title defense. You need to seek help because your hatred of dude can not be healthy at all.

 

[Iron_Stark]

LOL! Laugh Out MFing Loud! Only Floyd fans, only Floyd Mayweather and 12 year old girls would come to the defense of Beiber.

It's ok Docker, you're not the only one. I've read similar posts like yours on other sites 'Man why y'all hating on Beiber?' 'What he do to y'all? 'They were just having fun, why y'all hatin?'

It's ok, man, Flomos, Beliebers, same same.

The only thing that would complete this would've been that little ugly alien looking guy with gold teeth to hold Beibers spit bucket. He's a rapper I guess, Lil something I think.

 

[Doc Samson]

It's never going to happen, let me repeat, IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

Ward is 30 years old, maybe 31-32 by the time he fights again, he never fights outside of his hometown, he has a super boring style, and a dull personality. He's not the next Mayweather, doubtful he gets near the recognition of Hopkins.

As far as GGG, why go up when he can unify with Cotto and fight Canelo. Fighting Canelo on say Sept. 16 weekend (the other Mexican holiday Canelo IS going to take back) would be huge, especially with all the growing Mexican fans GGG is getting because of his style, it would be a big PPV event. It sure as sh** beats fighting in a half empty arena in Oakland.

That's all well and good, maybe it will, maybe it won't. But you're not going to sit here and tell me Hopkins style is any more exciting than Ward's, they fight damn near the same. And as I said before, Hopkins had the luxury of coming along during a time with plenty of big names to compete against. I don't think it's Ward's fault he's not in that era.

As far as personality though, you're right. He's not going to disrespect another country's flag. He's not going to talk a whole bunch of trash or play a character. But if a fight ever materialized with any big name fighter, I don't think Ward would have a problem meeting them anywhere on the Planet. The fights, for whatever reason, simply aren't there right now. I can almost guarantee if GGG, JCC or somebody like that were willing, he'd go anywhere he had to. He simply hasn't had the opponent that warranted a different venue yet...

 

[Iron_Stark]

That's all well and good, maybe it will, maybe it won't. But you're not going to sit here and tell me Hopkins style is any more exciting than Ward's, they fight damn near the same. And as I said before, Hopkins had the luxury of coming along during a time with plenty of big names to compete against. I don't think it's Ward's fault he's not in that era.

As far as personality though, you're right. He's not going to disrespect another country's flag. He's not going to talk a whole bunch of trash or play a character. But if a fight ever materialized with any big name fighter, I don't think Ward would have a problem meeting them anywhere on the Planet. The fights, for whatever reason, simply aren't there right now. I can almost guarantee if GGG, JCC or somebody like that were willing, he'd go anywhere he had to. He simply hasn't had the opponent that warranted a different venue yet...

He could've gone to Canada and defeated Bute after the Super Six tournament and returned a hero and a mega star, everyone would've been buzzing, wins the tournament and defeats the next top guy in the division. That would've been his breakthrough performance, instead he squandered it by letting Froch get that fight. Winning the SS was his "Gatti get the ball rolling" win and Bute would've been his "Mayweather/De La Hoya" career breakout performance win. Now it's too late, he has the talent, but not the fame. That tourney will have be 5 years in the time he returns to the ring. Nobody apart from boxing fans remember it and No boxer wants to risk getting outboxed, fight in Oakland or some other half empty or small arena and get paid peanuts for it.

Froch who lost the tournament went on to do more than him and now is possibly in line to fight JCC Jr in Vegas on PPV.

Your right about Hopkins, his style is rather boring to the casual audience, but he paid his dues, he fought all over the world before getting his shot, even in his opponents home countries. You think you'll ever see Ward fight in Equador? He already proved he wouldn't go to Canada and fight the champs up there.

He wants a big PPV fight, then he should earn it. What's more intriguing to the general public and the huge Latino fanbase that make up the most PPV buys,
GGG vs Canelo on a Mexican Holiday
GGG vs Cotto on the Puerto Rican Day parade weekend in MSG
Froch vs JCC Jr in Las Vegas

or

Ward vs GGG on a random date in a half empty arena in Oakland on regular HBO
Ward vs JCC Jr a random date in a half empty arena in Oakland on possibly on PPV, but won't sell well because everyone knows Jr would get shut out in that fight.
And in both cases I would see where neither guy would want to fight Ward because there's no money in it. It's not like they're getting Mayweather or De La Hoya opponents type money.

 

[Docker2.0]

The reason Ward didn't fight Bute is because Bute sat out the Super 6 and wanted to fight the winner of it and I don't blame Ward. You sit out the tournament and because you are undefeated you have the right to call him out? He didn't beat anyone but wanted to let Ward do all the dirty work and think he could just sweep in and get a shot. I don't blame Ward at all.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Actually Froch did all the dirty work, Ward only fought twice (althought it's not his fault Dirrell *****ed out of the tournament). Then Froch went on to defeat Bute and fight 4 more times against top guys. Ward has done squat since winning the Super 6; fighting a severely weight drained Dawson and a tomato can (2 fights in the 3+ years since the tournament).

Tell me why he's more deserving to be on a major PPV instead of Froch or be on a PPV period?

Seems to me he and his fans just want Froch to do all the dirty work and let Ward take the credit since Ward defeated Froch.