The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 2

[Docker2.0]

For Iron Stark: This is Manny admitting that Algieri was nowhere near his level so he "took pity" on him during the fight. His own words! Now tell me Arum isn't scum.

Spoiler

http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/11/26/7295109/manny-pacquiao-took-pity-on-chris-algieri

 

[Docker2.0]

Anyone see Iron Stark?! Haven't seen him since I busted out some facts! It's ok bro! You can still post here.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Anyone see Iron Stark?! Haven't seen him since I busted out some facts! It's ok bro! You can still post here.

LMAO!! Been off work with family, hope you and yours had a nice Thanksgiving.




Back to this, what facts?? An old article from 2000?? GTFO! Sure Arum is scum but so is Al Haymon, Pac may have been on PEDs, but Mayweather's stable of fighters have been busted for using PEDs and there have been rumors that Mayweather has been using them, Pac has made excuses for the fight not being made in the past but Mayweather is the one making them now. Pac was fighting as a pro (his first KO loss) in the Flyweight division when he was 17 years old, Mayweather was also a Flyweight at the age of 17 competing as an amateur.

So I don't see how you shut me up, how you busted me, or anything else.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how you can accuse Pac for being on PEDs because he started his Pro career as a flyweight and is now a welter-weight yet Mayweather at that same age weighed the same as an amateur and is now a welter weight.

Please explain that one.

 

[Docker2.0]

Mayweather was never a knock out artist like Paq. Plus power is one of the last things to go. He goes from getting knocked out by flyweights to breaking the sockets on Jr. Middleweights.

 

[Fallen Angel]

I see Terrance Crawford won last night. Good boxer could do damage at Light Welterweight (140 lb) in the future.

Oh Tyson Fury beat Chisora now is the mandatory for Wlad's WBO belt but that may not happen till late 2015 if at all.

 

[Fallen Angel]

I voted for you guys in the Hype Awards "Best Rivalry" category fyi.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=490161

 

[Iron_Stark]

Mayweather was never a knock out artist like Paq. Plus power is one of the last things to go. He goes from getting knocked out by flyweights to breaking the sockets on Jr. Middleweights.

That's your explanation? Really? First it was because he moved up in weight like it's never been unheard of, now because he hasn't KO'd anyone since Cotto? Look at the guys he's fought since Cotto

Clottey - a walking tree stump with turtle shell defense, nobody has ever KO'd him, nobody probably ever will
Margarito - tough as nails SOB, can take punishment like no other
Mosley - ran for dear life after Pac knocked him down
JMM 2x - he got robbed in one, KO'd Pac in the next one, I don't see how Pac was supposed to KO him
Rios - another tough as nails SOB, Pac fought cautiously after coming back from that KO loss
Bradley 2x - elite fighter, lost both fights but nobody was expecting him to get KO'd
Algieri - found out he's tough as nails, took Provodnikov's best blows and came back and also took Pac's best and kept coming.

So I still fail to see how zero KO's = no more PED's

If that's the case has Mayweather also stopped juicing? When was his last clear KO? (not the Ortiz sucker punch) Hatton 2007?

Pac at age 17 was flyweight, now in his 30s is welter weight with no KO's since 2009, He was on PEDs
Mayweather at age was 17 a flyweight, now in his 30s is a welter weight, no KO's since 2007, oh he's clean. Riiiiiiight

 

[Docker2.0]

That's your explanation? Really? First it was because he moved up in weight like it's never been unheard of, now because he hasn't KO'd anyone since Cotto? Look at the guys he's fought since Cotto

1)Clottey - a walking tree stump with turtle shell defense, nobody has ever KO'd him, nobody probably ever will
2)Margarito - tough as nails SOB, can take punishment like no other
3)Mosley - ran for dear life after Pac knocked him down
4)JMM 2x - he got robbed in one, KO'd Pac in the next one, I don't see how Pac was supposed to KO him
5)Rios - another tough as nails SOB, Pac fought cautiously after coming back from that KO loss
6)Bradley 2x - elite fighter, lost both fights but nobody was expecting him to get KO'd
7)Algieri - found out he's tough as nails, took Provodnikov's best blows and came back and also took Pac's best and kept coming.

So I still fail to see how zero KO's = no more PED's

If that's the case has Mayweather also stopped juicing? When was his last clear KO? (not the Ortiz sucker punch) Hatton 2007?

Pac at age 17 was flyweight, now in his 30s is welter weight with no KO's since 2009, He was on PEDs
Mayweather at age was 17 a flyweight, now in his 30s is a welter weight, no KO's since 2007, oh he's clean. Riiiiiiight

Let's look at these guys by numbers:

1) Admitted to taking a dive
2) Proven cheater and once found out, has maybe won one fight
3) Fought him only after Mayweather showed him it was "safe" but fought him after his prime.
4) We agree on this one. JMM seems to hate the guy, those they are supposedly friends.
5) Nicknamed the Walking punching bad. Nuff said!
6) One of those "slick" fighters Manny was told to avoid but happened to get injured in both fights. Second injury was allegedly because of Manny's mom voodoo hex.
7)Dude lives in his parents basement. If that doesn't say C level fighter, nothing will. And I like Algieri but he was clearly over his head.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Guys has been confirmed today Kovalev Vs Jean Pascal on March 14th. That's if Pascal beats his opponent in two weeks which he should.

Stevenson ducks Kovalev again and that clown has the balls to go by the nickname "Superman".

 

[Docker2.0]

Stevenson is a joke. Al Haymon can't be giving this guy career advise because he's the prime example of doing things the wrong way.

 

[Doc Samson]

For Iron Stark: This is Manny admitting that Algieri was nowhere near his level so he "took pity" on him during the fight. His own words! Now tell me Arum isn't scum.

You and I know full well that, if Floyd fought Algieri, Stark would've been rioting in the streets somewhere.

And as far as the PEDs go, Freddie Roach himself has all but basically confirmed that Ariza was doing something illegal with Manny. It's pretty cut and dry. I'd also like to know how is it that, when we start talking PEDs, then it's Floyd and Manny started at the same weight and did the same things. But when we talk legacy, all of a sudden Manny gets the upperhand when comparing their careers for climbing all these weight classes like Floyd didn't do that too? Which is it?

 

[Iron_Stark]

Let's look at these guys by numbers:

1) Admitted to taking a dive
2) Proven cheater and once found out, has maybe won one fight
3) Fought him only after Mayweather showed him it was "safe" but fought him after his prime.
4) We agree on this one. JMM seems to hate the guy, those they are supposedly friends.
5) Nicknamed the Walking punching bad. Nuff said!
6) One of those "slick" fighters Manny was told to avoid but happened to get injured in both fights. Second injury was allegedly because of Manny's mom voodoo hex.
7)Dude lives in his parents basement. If that doesn't say C level fighter, nothing will. And I like Algieri but he was clearly over his head.

So how exactly does this post prove Pac was on PEDs?

Stevenson is a joke. Al Haymon can't be giving this guy career advise because he's the prime example of doing things the wrong way.

You can't be serious. Haymon is definitely giving him advise! Haymon is the same guy that had Garcia fight Salka, the same guy that put together that terrible card in Cincinnati, had Peter Quillin give up the belt and turn down a career high $1.4 million payday and countless other things.

But of course according to you Arum is scum and Haymon is a saint.

You and I know full well that, if Floyd fought Algieri, Stark would've been rioting in the streets somewhere.

And as far as the PEDs go, Freddie Roach himself has all but basically confirmed that Ariza was doing something illegal with Manny. It's pretty cut and dry. I'd also like to know how is it that, when we start talking PEDs, then it's Floyd and Manny started at the same weight and did the same things. But when we talk legacy, all of a sudden Manny gets the upperhand when comparing their careers for climbing all these weight classes like Floyd didn't do that too? Which is it?

Rioting in the streets? There's a Ferguson joke somewhere in there. Nah I'm not like those idiot thugs out there burning sh- down because I didn't get my way.

I thought you were done with me for the rest of the year, what happened? lol.

 

[Docker2.0]

You and I know full well that, if Floyd fought Algieri, Stark would've been rioting in the streets somewhere.

And as far as the PEDs go, Freddie Roach himself has all but basically confirmed that Ariza was doing something illegal with Manny. It's pretty cut and dry. I'd also like to know how is it that, when we start talking PEDs, then it's Floyd and Manny started at the same weight and did the same things. But when we talk legacy, all of a sudden Manny gets the upperhand when comparing their careers for climbing all these weight classes like Floyd didn't do that too? Which is it?

Agreed!

So how exactly does this post prove Pac was on PEDs?



You can't be serious. Haymon is definitely giving him advise! Haymon is the same guy that had Garcia fight Salka, the same guy that put together that terrible card in Cincinnati, had Peter Quillin give up the belt and turn down a career high $1.4 million payday and countless other things.

But of course according to you Arum is scum and Haymon is a saint.




Rioting in the streets? There's a Ferguson joke somewhere in there. Nah I'm not like those idiot thugs out there burning sh- down because I didn't get my way.

I thought you were done with me for the rest of the year, what happened? lol.

I don't know why any of us even bother talking boxing with you. You just see what you want to see.

Anyway, Is the mega fight finally about to happen? An announcement before Christmas? Good read below!

Spoiler

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/12/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-to-be-announced-this-month/

 

[Doc Samson]

Rioting in the streets? There's a Ferguson joke somewhere in there. Nah I'm not like those idiot thugs out there burning sh- down because I didn't get my way.

I thought you were done with me for the rest of the year, what happened? lol.

"Didn't get my way?" I've assumed you were a racist this whole time, that pretty much confirms it. They were rioting because the man didn't even have to go to trial, just like that clown who got off for choking somebody to death. But they're black, so I guess it's cool for that to happen in your view, smh. I AM officially done now, rest assured.

Anyway, Is the mega fight finally about to happen? An announcement before Christmas? Good read below!

Eh, I'll take it with a grain of salt. I'm not sure who would think that fight needs that much promotion, the last 4-5 years did the work already. But we'll see...

 

[Doc Samson]

I'm kind of excited for Khan-Alexander. I think Devon is criminally underrated, some of the guys he already beat have gotten more opportunities than him, I'd like to see him get a shot at one of the big two. And while we all know Khan's faults, he also has some of the fastest hands in the sport, and he'll come to fight. Should be entertaining...

 

[Fallen Angel]

Khan wins by UD just a shame the guy has no ring IQ what so ever.

Keith Thurman is in action on the same card.

 

[Docker2.0]

Nah man! Thurman by KO. I know the guy he's fighting is suppose to be good but I just don't see this going past 7 rounds. I actually see Alexander winning by KO upset on Khan. Since Khan's glass chin has been exposed, he's hugged more than a prison cellmate, which is right up Alexander's alley. I can see Khan trying to hold and Devon catches him slipping.

Did you guys know Lara fights Ishe Smith on Friday night on Showtime and Austin Trout fights on ESPN2 tonight? Great next 3 days!

 

[Doc Samson]

I thought I heard about that but it must've slipped my mind. I missed the Trout fight, crazy work schedule, but I should be able to catch Lara/Smith.

 

[STARMAN]

I'm more interested in tomorrow night's Showtime fight card then the last few fight cards from Showtime and HBO.

 

[Doc Samson]

It might be on now, this is the most vocal he's been about making the fight happen in years...

Spoiler

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12022404/floyd-mayweather-jr-says-wants-fight-manny-pacquiao-proposes-2-bout

 

[Docker2.0]

I heard him say that during the Lara fight. It seems everyone involved wants the fight except Bob Arum. He's the most vocal against it.

 

[Iceman]

Anyone watching the undercard for Khan Alexander? Some nice matchups so far.

 

[Iron_Stark]

I heard him say that during the Lara fight. It seems everyone involved wants the fight except Bob Arum. He's the most vocal against it.

Dude, **** already with this Arum nonsense, he's been talking to Les Moonves about making the fight happen. What have Mayweather and Haymon been doing since November to make the fight happen?


It's all lip service by Mayweather, no way does he or Haymon want this fight, he's only saying this now to save face.

Things that are a myth and legend: Santa Clause, the Loch Ness Monster, Unicorns, Bigfoot, the Easter Bunny and Mayweather wanting the Pac fight.

Mayweather may say he wants the fight now, but I guarantee his ridiculous demands will prevent it. Ofcourse Flomos will blame Pac.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Arum is a liar and hasn't wanted this fight to happen. The only reason he might want it now is he is cashing out on Manny. Not that Floyd has wanted it either, but anyone defending Arum hasn't been following the situation at all.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Yeah but to put this solely on Arum is just pure lunacy. Neither party has wanted it, and that's the truth and what I've been saying for years.

But Flomos like Docker2.0 want to place the blame solely on Arum and paint Mayweather the victim.