Superman Returns The Official Brandon Routh IS Superman thread.

[Showtime]

Do you read anything else besides Jam! Showbiz?

 

[AgentPat]

since when is earning millions just "decent cash"????

Oh c'mon Excel, you know what I meant. Don't take the syntax so literally. Look at the role.

According to IMDb, Routh collected $1M for SR. Compare that to the $10M Clooney received for B&R, the $11.5M (+gross participations) Affleck received for Daredevil, and the $14M Halle Berry received for Catwoman! Hell, Routh made less than some TV actors get paid for about five episodes of programming.

*cough*

This isn't brain surgery folks. Clearly, newbie actors will have lower compensation deals than established thesps, especially if they have no track record. He will have to prove he's a guaranteed box office draw before he comes anywhere near landing that kind of dinero. Routh's lucky he got top billing in SR; Reeve didn't even get that.

All that said, I'd imagine it's not about the money for Routh right now, which kinda goes back to my "decent cash" comment. What should matter is getting out there, getting experience in a variety of roles, networking with other talent, learning from them, and generally making connections in the biz.

interesting. well i hope he will not only play light characters. i want him in a dark movie.

Well, now that he's got SR under his belt, I'd think fans would *want* him to play a "light" character. LOL

but i could understand WB since little kids take everything serious. if they see brandon in a movie killing some people they will think superman did this.

I would hope that such a film would be R-rated. Mature audiences can detach actors from the characters they're associated with, so that wouldn't be a problem for little kids. Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger. He was all over the place in his roles but it didn't hurt his career or his Q. And he was a professional bodybuilder when he started acting. Among his many films were Conan, The Terminator, Twins, Total Recall, Kindergarten Cop, True Lies, Jingle All the Way, and even B&R (for which he was paid $25M smackeroos!) That's a pretty eclectic resume of films.

Well maybe, but Routh said something liked he turned the roles down because he prefers playing characters who grow.

How does he explain SR then?

From his interview I took it he had a free choice or not to take the roles.

I dunno. I still believe the studio probably has final say. Plus, he's optioned for two sequels. Certainly, he would have to run anything major by Warners to avoid a possible scheduling conflict.

Routh can't afford to be turning things down. His inexperience as an actor showed in SR - he had a problem with timing on OLTL and it was still there in SR - check out the Clark/Jimmy bar scene for instance.

That scene didn't bother me so much. I cringed at the scene in the beginning with Martha in the living room, and some of the stunted line delivery that sounded like William Shatner w/o his characteristic gusto, "It's... not... easy... for me... to... live my... life..."

Maybe that was why he was given such little dialog?

My money's on it having been printed but left on the cutting room floor, along with all of the other goodies that should have made it into the flick.

Bosworth and Penn are doing projects and all Routh has done is a short with his girlfriend and voice-overs. I find that disappointing.

Meh. Oh well. Maybe he's taking acting courses? Who knows?

He owes it to himself, if not Superman fans, to be working to improve his craft. Stage, film, TV - he needs to be acting in whatever venue he can find.

While I agree in principle, there isn't THAT much time to make significant gains in acting. I think that comes from a few years of steady performances, minimum.

If Singer gets a greenlight to do a sequel Routh will be committed timewise from next fall on. Gives him not a lot of time to be doing other projects. It would be a huge disappointment if the sequel goes forward and Routh has done basically nothing since filming SR. His inexperience would be pretty much the same in a sequel as it was in SR.

Again, I agree in principle, but I think fans are putting too much emphasis on Routh when they *should* be looking at the writing talent. A great script can pull a poor actor up out of the muck, but even the best actors will be buried under a poor script.

 

[LL2K2]

Why do some people feel the need to resurrect threads from three years ago so they can post stuff that has little to do with this thread?

As for Brandon's limited screen time, that's entirely his choice. My guess is (and I'm sure someone already said this) he's choosing his roles carefully.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Oh c'mon Excel, you know what I meant. Don't take the syntax so literally. Look at the role.

According to IMDb, Routh collected $1M for SR. Compare that to the $10M Clooney received for B&R, the $11.5M (+gross participations) Affleck received for Daredevil, and the $14M Halle Berry received for Catwoman! Hell, Routh made less than some TV actors get paid for about five episodes of programming.

$ 1 M is more than what most actors earn in their lifetime, and the same amount of money that Michael Keaton (an actor who had a 10 year acting career on his back) made for the first Batman. You can't compare Routh's salary with those of Oscar winning actors (Berry) or someone with major blockbusters on their resumè. In Italy Routh would have made like 50000 $ for a year worth of work as a beginner actor.

 

[dark_b]

actually the paycheck waas the superman role. a lot of people now know about him. it easier now for him. so its not all about the money.

 

[Costumedfreak]

I see people saying 1 million isnt that much for Superman, are you guys thinking about merch? Thats where the real money is, you think he doesnt get something from each poster, figure, game etc etc etc. His agent would be a fool not to try to get a slice of all that, & come on whether people like him or not he is the next gen Superman & will never in his lifetime have to work a real job again. He will be making bank on being supes for at least 6 more years to come.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

BR.c has a link up to a new interview about some award he won.

http://www.brandonrouth.com/

 

[The Caped Knight]

Empire Magazine's "Empire Awards" were announced yesterday, with Brandon Routh taking out the "Best Male Newcomer" award for his role in "Superman Returns".

http://www.empireonline.com/awards/malenewcomer.asp

 

[Lightning54SC]

im sorry but routh is not superman... a good fill in or a decent subsitute at best ...

WE NEED A REAL SUPERMAN

 

[Angeloz]

I'm afraid Superman is fiction in this world. :P

By the way I love Brandon in the part(s). I was surprised by how much. I also am glad for him that he got another award.

Angeloz

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Looks young in this view

http://www.empireonline.com/awards/exclusive/malenewcomer3.asp

 

[superbaby]

im sorry but routh is not superman... a good fill in or a decent subsitute at best ...

WE NEED A REAL SUPERMAN

who? tom welling?
give me a break.

just don't compare him with reeve.

 

[AgentPat]

im sorry but routh is not superman... a good fill in or a decent subsitute at best ...

WE NEED A REAL SUPERMAN

who? tom welling?
give me a break.

Psst? Superbaby?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9397890&postcount=146

Interesting how the new perception seems to be if you don't like one, you must be a fan of the other. There's still plenty of people that don't like either. Just sayin'.

Anyhoo, carry on.

 

[mego joe]

He said in an interview some months ago that he is aware of the responsibility he has representing Superman today and won't pick roles that damage the image of Superman. I guess he wont be playing drug dealers, rapists or homocidal maniacs.

The irony I see here is that the film in which he portrayed Superman damaged the image of Superman.

 

[El Payaso]

Yesterday it was the 5th dimension what damaged Superman.

Now it's just the third.

 

[Justice Bringer]

For a film that supposedly damaged Superman's image, it got very impressive critical reviews.

For an actor who supposedly played a 'damaged superman' BR has an overwhelming positive response with the internet \S/ fans.

But........what cha gonna do?


Maybe you should write a letter to WB

 

[Qwerty©]

im sorry but routh is not superman... a good fill in or a decent subsitute at best ...

WE NEED A REAL SUPERMAN

Excuse me, but when I go in a thread titled "Brandon Routh IS Superman" I do not expect to see a post bashing him.

It's pathetic that some fans need to ***** over other people's opinions just because they like something they don't.

 

[BH/HHH]

Brandon is fantastic, don't know why anyone thinks oversize.

 

[Armand Z Trip]

Brandon is fantastic, don't know why anyone thinks oversize.

Freudian slip of the week!


Brandon is fantastic as Superman, I'll just leave it at that.

 

[mego joe]

Excuse me, but when I go in a thread titled "Brandon Routh IS Superman" I do not expect to see a post bashing him.

Hmm, I guess not everyone feels the same about this movie or Brandon's performance as Superman. Is this a new idea?

It's pathetic that some fans need to ***** over other people's opinions just because they like something they don't.

I thought this was a forum to discuss differeing opinions, however, there are proper and improper ways to do this... I'm guessing that was your point though.

BTW, though I didn't like the movie, I didn' think Brandon was bad, or incapable of playing a great Superman, just that he was constrained by a bad script and deplorable storyline.

 

[sithgoblin]

Psst? Superbaby?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9397890&postcount=146

Interesting how the new perception seems to be if you don't like one, you must be a fan of the other. There's still plenty of people that don't like either. Just sayin'.

Anyhoo, carry on.

*Raises hand* thought you know, I never thought I'd say this, but I think Welling is playing Superman better than Routh did. I saw that smallville flight club scene on youtube. Welling was way more commanding than Routh ever was.

I still dont like his look though.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Empire Magazine's "Empire Awards" were announced yesterday, with Brandon Routh taking out the "Best Male Newcomer" award for his role in "Superman Returns".

http://www.empireonline.com/awards/malenewcomer.asp

Was gonna create a new thread for this, but oh well, made up he won, he thoroughly deserves it IMO, BR was a great Superman.

 

[Qwerty©]

Hmm, I guess not everyone feels the same about this movie or Brandon's performance as Superman. Is this a new idea?

No it's not. But neither is "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all"

I thought this was a forum to discuss differeing opinions, however, there are proper and improper ways to do this... I'm guessing that was your point though.

That is my point. I don't go into the X-Men 3 forums and say "X-Men 3 is an example of cinematic abortion", because it makes me look like an ********. The people who enjoy X-Men 3 don't want to have to deal with it. There is a time and place for everything.

If I did want to give my negative opinions on X-Men 3, it is when there is an open discussion upon the quality of the film. But when the discussion is based on appreciation, my opinion is not necessary.

The same applies to a thread called 'Brandon Routh IS Superman', it's just dickish to go into a thread and say he isn't. :/

BTW, though I didn't like the movie, I didn' think Brandon was bad, or incapable of playing a great Superman, just that he was constrained by a bad script and deplorable storyline.

This is an example of discussion, rather than the trollish gruntings of Lightning54SC.

 

[Dark_Lord]

As the title of the thread suggests....Brandon Routh IS Superman.

He was awesome in the movie. I liked him from the start but when I finally saw the movie I thought he was even better that I had originaly, thought.

I know people (friends, family....) that liked the movie and people that didnt like the movie...They all agree on something. Brandon Routh was awesome as Superman...

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I agree, Brandon Routh was awesome as Superman. However, I feel he may have been too young for the story that Singer was trying to tell. Both he and Kate Bosworth just looked too young to be the parents of Jason. Singer wanted to reboot the series with these young stars as Superman and Lois but have them be parents as well with a decent history between the two, it just didn't feel right. For me, the scene of Superman giving the speech to Jason at the end would have been better if Superman was played by an older actor. I almost felt like Superman could be Jason's brother. It doesn't help for the sequel either that Tristan will be 3 years older while of course Routh will be as well but he won't age as significantly.