Superman Returns The Official Brandon Routh IS Superman thread.

[Hunter Rider]

there both greatcharacters and i have faith in the teams making both movies

 

[Alonsovich]

Like you're too lazy to make a quick search...
http://www.superman-v.com/news/04_09_27.php
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=18480
http://www.countingdown.com/movies/1378/news?item_id=3556415

Did McG cast Routh as Superman? NO! He was a contender.. but he preferred Henry Cavill if you believe the rumours.


According to Singer, it's not.

Oh, really ???...


Who said that? I for sure didn't... Singer, Harris and almost everybody in this production said they won't "mess up" with the character, "it won't be a crazy re-working", Harris said.

If you want the source, do a quick search... this was all discussed before.

All I have to say is... If you're going to believe everything Singer, Dougherty or Harris tell you... you'll be disappointed. WB is who puts the money, WB is who has listed two of their most trusted producers, Gilbert Adler (Fast and the Furious) and Jon Peters (no need for introductions) on this movie. They are the ones in command... not Singer/Dougherty/Harris... and if they don't like something they'll want it changed (and in the case of Jon Peters this is a MAJOR problem). I'm pretty sure the reason Nolan ended up with that suit was because of WB, not because of him. These franchises don't offer liberty to the filmmaker, even though they want you to believe that...

 

[Alonsovich]

Your positivitiy just shines though in your posts

You think someone can be enthusiastic after 12 years of waiting and not seeing a single frame of movie?

 

[Pickle-El]

You think someone can be enthusiastic after 12 years of waiting and not seeing a single frame of movie?

Hell, if Muscles can be enthusiastic about this movie at this point, you damn sure ain't trying in my book.

 

[Sverdlovski]

I believe it will be different this time. Nothing is perfect, of course, but Peters and Adler won't screw (major)things over this time. Singer is one of the producers. Everything is apparently OK by now, Singer got who he wanted for Superman, his idea for the film is being used (and not JJ Abrams script), he's working with his team... WB already spent a lot of money on this, and they restart everything with Singer... like Batgirl , I'm "cautiously optimistic" too.

 

[Alonsovich]

Hell, if Muscles can be enthusiastic about this movie at this point, you damn sure ain't trying in my book.

Oh c'mon. Muscles came here to support you know who. He hasn't been through all the mess that has been before. Singer is the 11th director on board in this project. I'm being realistic... 11 directors in 12 years is too much...

 

[IT is Batgirl]

Let's just hope the WB learned their lesson in the past 12 years to not muck things up by sticking their noses in places where they don't belong.

(not trying to be mean, just up-front)

*cough*

 

[Sverdlovski]

Things like this

'Superman' scoop


Dan Harris makes his directorial debut with Imaginary Heroes, a darkly comic drama about a family in crisis starring Sigourney Weaver, Emile Hirsch and Jeff Daniels. But Harris, whose film is a gala premiere, has made his name as a screenwriter of superhero movies, including X2: X-Men United and the forthcoming Fantastic Four. Currently, he is co-writing the screenplay for Superman. On Wednesday, after I threatened him with kryptonite, he gave me the scoop on the Man of Steel. "Superman, wait till you see it, it's going to be amazing," Harris said. "I wish I could tell you anything about it, but they would murder me. We're almost done with the script. We start shooting in March. Bryan Singer is directing it. It will be a back-to-basics Superman. There will be no changing of the mythology. It will be the most iconic, epic version of Superman told so far. It won't be an origin story.

cheer me up.

 

[IT is Batgirl]

Things like this



cheer me up.

You and me both.

 

[superfever]

All I have to say is... If you're going to believe everything Singer, Dougherty or Harris tell you... you'll be disappointed. WB is who puts the money, WB is who has listed two of their most trusted producers, Gilbert Adler (Fast and the Furious) and Jon Peters (no need for introductions) on this movie. They are the ones in command... not Singer/Dougherty/Harris... and if they don't like something they'll want it changed (and in the case of Jon Peters this is a MAJOR problem). I'm pretty sure the reason Nolan ended up with that suit was because of WB, not because of him. These franchises don't offer liberty to the filmmaker, even though they want you to believe that...

i know WB has been driving us up to the wall the past 12 years. but everything seems fine this time and we want to believe superman is taking off and gonna fly high this time.

i know you are still skeptical but don't be till you hear the concrete bad news about it. let's celebrate the new year.

btw, where is king krypton???
he hasn't answered my question. why did he think batman will be done bad this time?

 

[The Sage]

All I have to say is... If you're going to believe everything Singer, Dougherty or Harris tell you... you'll be disappointed. WB is who puts the money, WB is who has listed two of their most trusted producers, Gilbert Adler (Fast and the Furious) and Jon Peters (no need for introductions) on this movie. They are the ones in command... not Singer/Dougherty/Harris... and if they don't like something they'll want it changed (and in the case of Jon Peters this is a MAJOR problem). I'm pretty sure the reason Nolan ended up with that suit was because of WB, not because of him. These franchises don't offer liberty to the filmmaker, even though they want you to believe that...

Yeah I think it's pretty evident why Nolan has the suit he has now. I personally think WB wanted to keep a suit in the same vein as the past ones because it's what the public associates with in terms of a live action Batman. Could be wrong. With that in mind, considering the classic costume is what the public associates with a live action Superman, I have very little worry about the costume.

 

[Lighthouse]

It was also Ratner's and McG's dream project

If it was really McG's dream project, he'd have gotten on the f**king plane. Fear of flying my ass.

 

[superfever]

have we seen this pic b4?

 

[The Sage]

have we seen this pic b4?

That's a nice picture.

 

[IT is Batgirl]

have we seen this pic b4?

That's from 2001. He and some other celebs are at a children's charity event.

 

[Pickle-El]

He looks better when he's not posing for a pic.

 

[Wargod]

Originally Posted by Alonsovich
It was also Ratner's and McG's dream project

Despite the fact that both said that superman was their dream project, i think that both wnted just to use Superman to make them recognized as great directors (exactly what they aren't).

 

[SolidRoar]

Ratner and McG's choices weren't approved by WB... they wnated unknowns but WB wanted some stupid actor like Josh Hartnett or Ashton Kutcher...

Actually, Ratner wanted an unknown - Mathew Bomer. McG's choice was Henry Cavill, I think. (Both are better choices than Routh, IMHO)

btw, where is king krypton???
he hasn't answered my question. why did he think batman will be done bad this time?

Yes, I wanna know his answer, too.

He looks better when he's not posing for a pic.

I agree.. (DAMN, that's one big nose!) His head could be a little wider, too.




I'm really happy that Superman finally got a good director. So far, WB have not let me down - I'd like to believe that CINO was their last mistake. My only concern with Singer is that he seems to be using Donner's films as his source material and not the comics. Superman: The Movie and Superman II were great for their time, but not now. Now they can make much better with the franchise. I hope what he meant by "vague history" is that he'll be using the general plot of the previous movies - not the way Clark Kent and Lex Luthor characters were presented. Do you think Pa Kent will be dead, too? I hope not.

 

[Sverdlovski]

Actually, Ratner wanted an unknown - Mathew Bomer. McG's choice was Henry Cavill, I think. (Both are better choices than Routh, IMHO)

That's what I said... they wanted unknowns but WB didn't...

And I hope Pa Kent STAYS dead. There's no use for him.

 

[muscles]

Oh c'mon. Muscles came here to support you know who. He hasn't been through all the mess that has been before. Singer is the 11th director on board in this project. I'm being realistic... 11 directors in 12 years is too much...

Hey Alonsovich,

I have to disagree. I have followed this project for many many years. I have been following a new superman movie since Superman V with Christopher Reeve was suppost to get made. I know ALL about the history of this project and its problem. But yes when I first did sign up to post on superhero hype.com I did so cause I liked Welling and I liked reading all the information from you guys on scoops. So your right in some sense Alonsovich but wrong in others

 

[Clarkman]

My only concern with Singer is that he seems to be using Donner's films as his source material and not the comics.

Same here. As for now, is a small concern. But no doubt it's something to be noticed.

 

[KAZUYA]

I redid the other manips using your thoughts making the fit more like spideys suit and the attached shield some comicbook like boots.

I was going to change the belt but it looked good allready.

 

[Thunder Emperor]

I redid the other manips using your thoughts making the fit more like spideys suit and the attached shield some comicbook like boots.

I was going to change the belt but it looked good allready.

cool but too much read on the top, looks more like he is in a parade

 

[Son of Jor-El]

what if you keep it like it is in the comics (the cape and shield) but give the belt more of a v shape instead of it being flat? the boots look awesome by the way

 

[Sverdlovski]

This is what Singer said about the costume when he was interviewed at NYU:

Question: What about the costume, will it be the same or something original?

Answer: “…but it will not be the same costume. Well because today’s standards you can’t, fortunately I have the benefit of some of what they did, the research they did with Spider-Man, the fabrics and flexion. What is weird is when you put someone in a tight fitting outfit, no matter how defined they are, and how good their body is, a spandex, or today’s ‘spandex’, we’ll call it, actually takes your definition away, so you have to create the shading, you have to artificially, and then you have to create, no matter how built they are, you have to create still pads, some kind of, they did with Tobey, you have to create some kind of thing. But it won’t be like a body suit, I mean he’s the man of steel, bullets bounce off of him, not his ****ing suit.”

And about the story...

"(...)in my mind, the um, if you are under the age of 18, you, either you don’t know what’s, either you know Superman as a guy who can fly who’s from Krypton, he’s got an ‘S’ and he’s got a cape, bullets bounce, you know some things just from general public ______, so assuming if you don’t know any of the movies or television, u know that much, if you are under the age of 18, u have Smallville, the television show, if you are over the age of 18, or over the age of 25, or you are and old guy like Gus, me, u know the early movies, you have a vague memory of the first, or you know the first movie and you love it, or a vague memory of it, what I’m doing is I’m taking the early films, Superman 1 and 2 really, three and four with Richard Pryor, I , I don’t, those don’t really resonate, I’m putting the early films in a kind of vague history.

Telling a ‘Returns’ story, I’m not saying that’s the title necessarily, but a story in which he exists, I guess the best analogy would be to Tim Burton’s first Batman movie, you got a sense of his reflective history, but ultimately Batman already existed, he was part of, he was a superhero, you know prowling around in the culture, here Superman exists, the world is aware of him, but he has been gone for a period of time, he is returning and so on the outside it is a story of, or excuse me on the sub textural level it’s all about when messiahs come and bring us good fortune and leave us and then it’s better they had not come at all, and how the world can move on, and what happens when they come again, saviors that sort of thing. The more textural level is what happens when old boyfriends come back into your life.”