The Official Budget & Box Office Thread

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's too early to make predictions. I'm waiting for a trailer and to see what the reaction is to said trailer.

 

[KingKane88]

^^^ Exactly what I been thinking


I do find it hard to believe though, that this movie will not do at-least as good as Thor, a basic unknown compared to Sups. Thor does have some following over-sea's though.


Granted, SR made about 58 grand less then Thor, but that movie was so terribly boring, is was a snooze fest. I tried to watch SR again a couple weeks back and had to turn it off half way through as I was literally falling asleep.

I will never forget the first time I seen SR in the theater, right after the movie ended, 2 guys who were sitting in back of me and my woman remarked "That sucked" while the other said "we paid 8 bucks to watch paint dry". Me and the lady were laughing our asses off at their response. No word of mouth from them, and I heard absolutely NO one talking about the movie while leaving the theater, which I usually do.

As long as MOS gets at-least decently good reviews, with a good amount of action, I don't see it making anywhere under the $450 Mil mark.


BTW, I loved Thor so much I actually seen it 3 different times at the Theater, this was the first time I seen a movie more then once in the Theater since Terminator 2 back in "91".

 

[Micromind]

Granted, SR made about 58 grand less then Thor, but that movie was so terribly boring, is was a snooze fest. I tried to watch SR again a couple weeks back and had to turn it off half way through as I was literally falling asleep.

Thor had its collections inflated by a 3D ticket price and the fact that 2D ticket prices have increased as well.

You also have to include the effects of inflation and the effects of Pirates of Caribbean franchise on SR's performance.

 

[Lily Adler]

It's too early to make predictions. I'm waiting for a trailer and to see what the reaction is to said trailer.

True, but I just wanted to see people's predictions pre-trailer and compare the predictions after the actual trailer is shown.

 

[Micromind]

Don't expect a big opening weekend, as reboots franchises have not done very well looking back at some of the recent reboots, it would be wise to lower the expectations -

The Incredible Hulk - Opening Weekend: $55,414,050

Batman Begins - Opening Weekend: $48,745,440


The last big budget franchises of WB too have not done very well -

Superman Returns - Opening Weekend: $52,535,096

Green Lantern - Opening Weekend: $53,174,303

I would predict the opening weekend in 50 mil to 60 mil. range.

 

[solidsnake86]

^the thing with SR was that the film opened on a Wednesday, I'm sure had it opened, on friday the opening weekend would have been bigger.

 

[manofsteel4life]

Don't expect a big opening weekend, as reboots franchises have not done very well looking back at some of the recent reboots, it would be wise to lower the expectations -

The Incredible Hulk - Opening Weekend: $55,414,050

Batman Begins - Opening Weekend: $48,745,440


The last big budget franchises of WB too have not done very well -

Superman Returns - Opening Weekend: $52,535,096

Green Lantern - Opening Weekend: $53,174,303


I would predict the opening weekend in 50 mil to 60 mil. range.

Yea that's why I said 50 to 60 to play it safe

 

[ElDuderino]

The biggest obstacle MOS has is SR. No one wants to see another Superman movie after that. If it's just an "okay" movie, it will do very poorly at the box office, I think.

 

[KrypJonian]

Well the best thing is for the younguns to not care about SR and for MOS to be their intro to Superman... I guess

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

True, but I just wanted to see people's predictions pre-trailer and compare the predictions after the actual trailer is shown.

I understand.

All I can say is that 200mil domestic is not easy to get.

 

[Micromind]

The biggest obstacle MOS has is SR. No one wants to see another Superman movie after that. If it's just an "okay" movie, it will do very poorly at the box office, I think.

I don't believe that.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^I could easily see it doing poorly at the box office. It's success is not a foregone conclusion, no matter what the fans believe.

It has three massive hurdles that it has to get over:

It's director has mostly helmed box office misses. ZS will have to shape up and actually give the audience something that they like and want to see for once.

It's following a movie with very mixed word of mouth. The Man of Steel will have to win back a chunk of people who hated Superman Returns and or were underwhelmed by it

It's yet another Superhero movie at a theater that's been filled with nothing but superhero movies in the last 6 years since the last Superman movie and only a select few Superhero films even get over 200mil and this movie is going to need that kind of number and more to justify existence.

Make no mistake The Man of Steel does not have an easy road to success.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I agree, I think it's really easy for us all to be getting ahead of ourselves. There is no guarantee at all.

But I do think MOS is starting off with pretty much the best chance at success it can - great creative team and great cast. And when I say great, I mean GREAT. Not SR or Green Lantern great.

Now it's just down to the marketing campaign and the public/critics word of mouth to make the film a true success.

 

[Lily Adler]

I agree that MOS may likely do poorly at the box office. There's just so much going against it that ISS has stated. And I agree with Becks that marketing will be key to help it, but since this is WB's marketing people I have no real hope.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I agree that MOS may likely do poorly at the box office. There's just so much going against it that ISS has stated. And I agree with Becks that marketing will be key to help it, but since this is WB's marketing people I have no real hope.

Such a shame. But hey, maybe they'll surprise us! Or maybe all it'll take is one of Snyder's fantastic trailers to get the buzz going

 

[Lily Adler]

That's all I have to cling to. Snyder's a cinema wizard when it comes to trailers.

 

[B]

It's rather early to be making Box Office predictions seeing as there isn't even a teaser trailer doing the rounds yet just a handful of official/un-official pictures.

However if I were to make an early prediction taking into account the interest the film will generate with Oscar winner(s), British actor playing Superman, director of 300, Dark Knight ties & the fact that it's probably the most recognisable superheros, I'd say you'll be talking in the region of $450m-$600m assuming it is recieved fairly well by public.

I reserve the right to change this predicition after I see a teaser trailer. :P

 

[mclay18]

I read that one stunt crew member for Amazing Spider-Man is a $220M budgeted film... very high considering Sony wanted to reboot the series when costs soared for the Raimi films. About $70M higher than I expected.

And how much is MOS projected to cost? Around $200M or less, minus P&A costs?

 

[Lily Adler]

It probably won't be too high. I'm expecting it to be in the 180-200+ million area.

 

[Prime]

Well the number being tossed around most often on sites like IMDB and such is 175 million. But even though Snyder is good with budgets, I have a hard believing that it wont be more than that. Probably 50 million more. WB shouldn't play cheap with this one. They need to go all or nothing. They sure can afford it.

 

[mclay18]

Well the number being tossed around most often on sites like IMDB and such is 175 million. But even though Snyder is good with budgets, I have a hard believing that it wont be more than that. Probably 50 million more. WB shouldn't play cheap with this one. They need to go all or nothing. They sure can afford it.

Legendary is co-financing the film with WB, so they can afford it. I don't know why they didn't come on board for GL, though.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I read that one stunt crew member for Amazing Spider-Man is a $220M budgeted film... very high considering Sony wanted to reboot the series when costs soared for the Raimi films. About $70M higher than I expected.

And how much is MOS projected to cost? Around $200M or less, minus P&A costs?

Sony was delusional for thinking that they could make a Spider-Man movie for less.

 

[mclay18]

Sony was delusional for thinking that they could make a Spider-Man movie for less.

Pfft. Sony's blowing money left and right with expensive reshoots months before the release -- that quickly adds up.

I could make a Spider-Man movie for $100M-$130M.

 

[Adenjo]

^the thing with SR was that the film opened on a Wednesday, I'm sure had it opened, on friday the opening weekend would have been bigger.

Also...
Superman Returns had a staggered release, which was an early Christmas present for the pirate DVD market, I had a DVD copy of Sr offered to me weeks before we got a release in the UK.

In the UK Superman returns was put up against POTC2 (which was suicide) it was also released in the middle of one of the hottest summers we've had in along long time (making folks less eager to sit in a hot movie theater)

In the UK Superman returns had some of the worst marketing I have ever seen for a movie.

And the other reason for it's less than stellar money making?

Word of mouth soon spread that it was infact a bit crap.

Man of steel like it or not will have a lot of work to do if it is to climb from under the dark cloud left by Superman returns.
So with that in mind I think that if we end up with the amazing film Superman deserves then we will have a movie that will make money but won't break box office records.. The sequel to MOS will be the bigger money maker in my opinion.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Pfft. Sony's blowing money left and right with expensive reshoots months before the release -- that quickly adds up.

I could make a Spider-Man movie for $100M-$130M.

No you couldn't.

The movie was always going to cost 150mil at the very least. I'm probably low balling the least, in reality it's probably more like 170mil at the very least because this isn't 2002. Of course the re-shoots are why the budget ballooned pass 200mil. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it cost more than 220mil when all is said and done.