The Official Flash Thread - Part 2

[batlovescatDC]

^ Not bad at all for having so little material to go with. But Christina McGee should not be in a Barry Allen flash film.

 

[EditNinja]

^ Not bad at all for having so little material to go with. But Christina McGee should not be in a Barry Allen flash film.

Thanks. Okay, let's call her Ira then!

 

[EditNinja]

Bradley Cooper casting hype is cooling now but...

 

[Rock Sexton]

When asked about The Flash and if he would be interested in a superhero role he responded:

“Well I auditioned for the The Green Lantern and didn’t get it so I’m reluctant to put on the cape again."

http://**************.com/fansites/JakeLester/news/?a=31637

 

[EditNinja]

Before the the Bradley Cooper as The Flash stuff is completely given up on...

 

[Green Ghost]

Nice done! But I don't want Cooper for Flash anymore...he became pretty annoying and he's not the type of Flash I would like to see...

 

[batlovescatDC]

Flash/Barry Allen:


Ryan Phillippe

Jake Gyllenhaal

Garett Hedlund

Iris:


Odette Yustman

Professor Zoom:


Bradley Cooper

 

[BH/HHH]

Wow you know Bradley Cooper would actually make an awesome Professor Zoom and Ryan Philipe would be a great Flash aswell.

 

[Corsico]

The Flash is my all-time favorite DC character. All I want is a GOOD movie. Is that TOO much to ask?

 

[The Overlord]

LOL No liek seriously, supervillains must be teh gritteh and realistic yah!!!Men in tights are teh seriousness!!

Sigh, why can't fanboys just accept the inherent absurdness of superhero comics and embrace that instead of trying to water down everything and keep it "grounded"?

That's all well and good, but none of that means Grodd will translate well to live action. Usually when they have talking animal characters in live action movies, they often look extremely bad looking, like the animal characters in the live action Scooby Doo movie, the Underdog movie, the Marmaduke movie, etc. Its easier to make a person in a costume look cool on screen, then a talking animal. Has there been a talking gorilla in a movie that looked good? It seems like as soon as Grodd starts to speak, he would look goofy in live action. Just because something works in a comic doesn't mean it would work in live action. It seems with Grodd is more expensive and way harder to pull off on screen than Flash's human villains.

 

[batlovescatDC]

We will never see a talking gorilla as the villain in a movie unless it's a children's film. Plain and simple.

 

[HighFivingMF]

That's well and good, but none of that means Grodd will translate well to live action. Usually when they have talking animal characters in live action movies, they often look extremely bad looking, like the animal characters in the live action Scooby Doo movie, the Underdog movie, the Marmaduke movie, etc.

Those aren't necessarily good examples. They're all quick cash-in movies solely created for kids who don't care about the quality of the CG. This would be a big tentpole action movie. If a purple CG teddy bear that smells like strawberries can be made into a bitter, menacing bastard of a villain (Not that it would be the same style of CG as Toy Story 3, but that's not my point.) there's hope for a Gorilla that naturally looks mean to be convincing.

 

[The Overlord]

Those aren't necessarily good examples. They're all quick cash-in movies solely created for kids who don't care about the quality of the CG. This would be a big tentpole action movie. If a purple CG teddy bear that smells like strawberries can be made into a bitter, menacing bastard of a villain (Not that it would be the same style of CG as Toy Story 3, but that's not my point.) there's hope for a Gorilla that naturally looks mean to be convincing.

In Toy Story 3, the whole movie was CGI, it was a cartoon, not live action. Cartoons and live action are two different beasts, what works in a cartoon doesn't always work in live action. The problem with Grodd is he wouldn't be appearing with cartoon characters, he would he appearing with real flesh and blood humans. Its harder to make Grodd look good in a live action film, then an animated one. It just seems like it would be cheaper and easier to stick to human villains.

 

[Timstuff]

Even though this song is technically about the other Flash, I want it somewhere in the movie.



Maybe they can do a remix of it without the Flash Gordon audio bytes specially for the movie.

 

[HighFivingMF]

In Toy Story 3, the whole movie was CGI, it was a cartoon, not live action. Cartoons and live action are two different beasts, what works in a cartoon doesn't always work in live action. The problem with Grodd is he wouldn't be appearing with cartoon characters, he would he appearing with real flesh and blood humans. Its harder to make Grodd look good in a live action film, then an animated one.

I pointed that out in my post. The point was that given the right tone, time, respect, and care anything can work. Let's wait until Green Lantern when we see a big pink hippo hanging out with Ryan Reynolds.

 

[The Overlord]

I pointed that out in my post. The point was that given the right tone, time, respect, and care anything can work. Let's wait until Green Lantern when we see a big pink hippo hanging out with Ryan Reynolds.

Frankly I have doubts that the GL movie will look good and why spend all that time and money on Grodd, when a human villain would be easier to do and less expensive?

 

[HighFivingMF]

Frankly I have doubts that the GL movie will look good and why spend all that time and money on Grodd, when a human villain would be easier to do and less expensive?

The shots of Oa with Hal and Tomar/Hal and Kilowog look fine. And because Grodd fits the hypothetical story they want to tell. I'd rather see them take the rest than say "OK. This would be expensive... Let's just make it a mobster or something."

 

[The Overlord]

The shots of Oa with Hal and Tomar/Hal and Kilowog look fine. And because Grodd fits the hypothetical story they want to tell. I'd rather see them take the rest than say "OK. This would be expensive... Let's just make it a mobster or something."

We have how the stuff from the GL film will look in motion and I didn't think the trailer was impressive. What hypothetical story are you talking about? Why would Grodd fit this story better then Captain Cold, Zoom or any other human Flash rogue?

 

[terry78]

Honestly, the only way Grodd would work is if you do have him as a CG character, but he can only communicate via telepathy and you don't actually have him talking. So he's intelligent and can come off as a villain, but it doesn't look AS goofball.

 

[HighFivingMF]

What hypothetical story are you talking about? Why would Grodd fit this story better then Captain Cold, Zoom or any other human Flash rogue?

It's hypothetical, it doesn't exist. If a story did exist that called for Grodd I'd want Grodd. Not a cheap substitute (not that there's anything wrong with the Rogues, but if they replace him with one for reasons of money technically they would be "Cheap Substitutes").

 

[The Overlord]

It's hypothetical, it doesn't exist. If a story did exist that called for Grodd I'd want Grodd. Not a cheap substitute (not that there's anything wrong with the Rogues, but if they replace him with one for reasons of money technically they would be "Cheap Substitutes").

Its not just money, its generally easier to do them and they would be more believable as foes. Going into the whole back story with Gorilla city would take away from Flash just fighting crime in Central City. Plus I'm not sure the general audience would find a talking monkey a very believable or menacing enemy. Grodd seems like a big risk and I'm not sure what the pay off would be.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I'm not sure what the pay off would be.

A unique and memorable film villain.

 

[The Overlord]

A unique and memorable film villain.

More unique or memorable then any of the other Flash villains who would be easier to do and would be easier to sell to the general public?

 

[Timstuff]

Mirror Master or Weather Wizard would be a decent enough villain to start with, since they have powers that would specifically be a challenge to Flash. Mirror Master screws with Flash's ability to get places quickly, and Weather Wizard can create disasters that Flash has to deal with. Maybe Flash would even have to diffuse a tornado that is going to tear apart a city?

Less potent foes like Captain Cold, Captain Boomerang, and Trickster could fit into a movie also, but they should be teamed up since none of them are really formidable enough to carry a movie on their own. Maybe they could be manipulated by Professor Zoom, which solves the problem of Flash being paired against a one-note bad guy who is easily defeated or against just a "bad flash." Throw them all into the same movie, and you've got quite a challenge for the ol' speedster.

 

[DieSmiling]

Am I the only person who thinks "Captain Cold" is cheesier and more likely to elicit laughs from the audience than Grodd? I mean, just think about a movie with a villain named "Captain Cold?" It sounds like goofy parody of Mr. Freeze.