The Avengers The Official 'Hulk in Avengers' thread.

[Amazing Afroman]

these are the only three renditions they need to look at for their designs:

the green hulk needs some yellows in the green, as seen here.

Rather than hoaky cgi transformations; they could do an explosion with green smoke (like mr. Hyde in reverse) for the green hulk, and an explosion with gray smoke for the gray hulk.

The actual character effect in my opinion should be done with scaling and animatronics like mr. Hyde in league of extraordinary gentlemen.

what?

 

[terry78]

Mr. Hyde looked like garbage.

 

[donko]

I just finished watching The Incredible Hulk and noticed something that General Ross said. After the second encounter with the Hulk, but right before Betty and Bruce made it to New York, Ross said that the shield organization had entered the names MR Blue and Mr Green into their database.

I already read that The Incredible Hulk takes place after Iron Man 2, but when? It is obvious that it takes place before S.H.I.E.L.D. finds Captain America because they could have just used Cap instead of injecting the Abomination guy.

Next question.
Was it S.H.I.E.L.D. that gave the Army the special Stark Industries Humvee and if so what type of relationship does Ross have with them? I mean Ross is so adamant about getting back Bruce and considers his body government property, wouldn't he feel the same way about Captain America?

Last question
I know that the events of Captain America takes place before all the other movies, but I wonder will the awakening happen at the end of his movie or the beginning of the Avengers?

 

[terry78]

The military probably bought the stuff from Stark's company indirectly as a purchase, but Ross hadn't really been on close terms with Stark himself yet.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

We know Hulk is in the Avengers. We just don't know if Ed is in it.

 

[Weadazoid]

What we all want to see is Hulk on a rampage, Iron Man left dumbfounded as to how to deal with Raw energy like this, brute force that takes his best shot and still keeps coming only to have Thor step on the sceane and match Power moves with the Hulk Leaving even the Hulk shocked as to how any man who appears Human can seem to match him in the power department. THis may give us a moment for Cap to come in as a voice of reason, ending the chaos and getting the Hulk to relent, and join the team.

 

[Rock Sexton]

If Loki is indeed the main henchman in The Avengers, I think it would be fitting that the Hulk is the piece that both sides are jockeying to control.

 

[Dark Raven]

If Loki is indeed the main henchman in The Avengers, I think it would be fitting that the Hulk is the piece that both sides are jockeying to control.

If Loki is the main henchman, then who is he henchman to? Who is the main villain?

I don't think Loki would ever see himself as a henchman or lackey though. Loki wouldn't ever serve anyone else.

 

[Rock Sexton]

If Loki is the main henchman, then who is he henchman to? Who is the main villain?

I don't think Loki would ever see himself as a henchman or lackey though. Loki wouldn't ever serve anyone else.

Poor choice of words. I meant bad guy.... antagonist .... etc. etc. .....

 

[Young Superman]

Hulk better be in Avergers and Edward Norton better play Dr. Bruce Banner.

 

[Aztec]

Hulk better be in Avergers and Edward Norton better play Dr. Bruce Banner.

He is and from the sound of it he likely will.

 

[Rock Sexton]

.........not that anyone cares, but I'm watching TIH for like the billionth time. I love this movie. It's my favorite of the Marvel movies so far.

Make it happen Norton! Then you'll get your redemption in TIH:2 and be able to achieve what you meant to with that a$$-hat at Marvel gone who toyed with you before.

BTW, how could Marvel NOT want this guy in The Avengers? Norton without a doubt has the most passion for a Marvel character that you could probably have. That's what you want out of your actor portraying him.

 

[scatterax]

.........not that anyone cares, but I'm watching TIH for like the billionth time. I love this movie. It's my favorite of the Marvel movies so far.

Make it happen Norton!

I've noticed that the more i watch iron man the older it gets. but the more i watch TIH the better it gets. pretty soon they'll switch places on my sig. just wait.

edit-just did. now that i think about it it is better. but IM2 is prolly gonna blow em both outa the water.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I've noticed that the more i watch iron man the older it gets. but the more i watch TIH the better it gets. pretty soon they'll switch places on my sig. just wait.

That's what I'm saying. I mean I liked Iron Man, but there was just something else about TIH and I keep wanting to watch it more and more. I thought it did a fantastic job with it's inclusion of different pieces of the rest of the Marvel universe and just had even more-so of a comic vibe to it.

I was doing a little bit of reading on various interviews with Norton. He knows the fans are shouting for him to return. One interview seemed to insinuate that to make up for the mishap created with the struggle on the editing floor (and to get him signed on to The Avengers) they should re-release on DVD the version Leterrier/Norton intended. Would that be so hard? I am dying to see it, especially the super-soldier subplot they intended.

 

[Rock Sexton]

This quote says it all for me ....

I think it's really Marvel's decision at this point, not Norton's, and Marvel will make it a priority if they are told, loud and clear, "This is a priority." They could easily write around Norton or replace him, but I think that would be a creative misstep. When you have a collaborator who is this smart, and this willing, you shouldn't walk away. You should embrace them, even if that means doing some difficult things and making some choices that cede some power. Marvel is being incredibly smart about the films they control these days, and they have a chance to line up a truly great cast when the Avengers assemble.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12...-hulk-s-fate-in-the-hands-of-the-fans-at-sxsw

 

[KangConquers]

They need to make Hulk a big enough role that they can spin a TIH 2 out of avengers; that said, his role has to be small enough that they can make an Avengers 2 without him.

 

[Rock Sexton]

They need to make Hulk a big enough role that they can spin a TIH 2 out of avengers; that said, his role has to be small enough that they can make an Avengers 2 without him.

The movie did $263 million in theaters (domestic & international) plus another $58 million in DVD sales. That's $321 million between the two and that was WITHOUT proper promotion and marketing. The movie is no doubt deserving of a sequel and I personally believe The Avengers movie could help move that idea along.

 

[allhollows86]

Does anyone Know If William Hurt is going to be in The Avengers movie or Captain?

 

[Silver Knight]

The movie did $263 million in theaters (domestic & international) plus another $58 million in DVD sales. That's $321 million between the two and that was WITHOUT proper promotion and marketing. The movie is no doubt deserving of a sequel and I personally believe The Avengers movie could help move that idea along.

I agree! TIH2 needs to happen!

 

[Young Superman]

I agree! TIH2 needs to happen!

I think so too.

 

[Tony Stark]

I picked up the Incredible Hulk on blueray last night. I wanted to watch it again to get a sense of where they are going with Avengers and IM2.

What amazed me is what a good movie that was. My impressions at the time were, "just OK", but after seeing it again it was better than I remembered. I wish I had gone to see it again in the theaters.

I'm not sure what Norton's whole beef was, but I hope that Marvel and him seal any divides between them. I know that he has said how much he loved Marvel comics as a kid.

Even though I didn't care much for the Ang Lee movie, I did like Eric Bana's performance, but watching the movie again last night, I know that the direction TIH took is more what the Avengers need.

The whole "nanomed" thing from Ang's film was absolutely stupid. TIH took an approach similar to Ultimates, combining it with the TV show origin.

William Hurt is just awesome, and they've got to have him back. I am just dying to see him and Jackson play off each other. They are such incredible actors and completely immerse themselves in their rolls.

The way I see Avengers playing out is that based on the ending of TIH, which I assume takes place after IM2, in the timeline, is that the Avengers are grouped to stop the Hulk because of his destruction. Eventually Rogers is going to figure out what General Ross is really trying to do with the Hulk. I could see Ross turning the military against the Avengers, until they can expose Ross of what he's doing.

At the end of TIH, it seems like Blonsky is not dead, and we know of his healing powers. I'm wondering if Ross is going to try to use him as a pawn.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think they need to change the Hulk's appearance slightly for the Avengers. Make him look more like Lou Ferrigno's Hulk face-wise, and also less striated. He was ridiculously ripped in TIH. I don't want him to look flabby like Ang Lee's Hulk, but not so heavily defined either. I want him a bit more realistic looking when he's alongside the other actors, so that he blends in more. If Ferrigno could play the Hulk again and they augmented his body and size, and gave him a more Hulking appearance, that would be ideal.

 

[Silver Knight]

He will under go some changes no doubt.

 

[Iron_Stark]

They need to make Hulk a big enough role that they can spin a TIH 2 out of avengers; that said, his role has to be small enough that they can make an Avengers 2 without him.

No it doesn't, Hulk's role in the Avengers (especially if Norton comes back) needs to be as equal as the other major characters.

You think Iron Man's role also needs to be small enough as well? Because RDJ is going to be one and done with the Avengers, after Iron Man 3 he's going to be pushing 50 and hanging up the helmet.

 

[KangConquers]

No it doesn't, Hulk's role in the Avengers (especially if Norton comes back) needs to be as equal as the other major characters.

You think Iron Man's role also needs to be small enough as well? Because RDJ is going to be one and done with the Avengers, after Iron Man 3 he's going to be pushing 50 and hanging up the helmet.

No...I think Hulk is a character that has failed to captivate audiences, and that focusing too much on him would be a risk. TIH didn't even make a profit until dvd...remember it takes 2 dollars of gross to make back every dollar you spend...on a 150 million dollar budget, they had to make 300 million to break even...that gave them 21 million dollars of profit; very modest when placed next to Iron Man's nearly half a billion in profit (300 million to break even and it made 750 million after dvd.)

I don't like a lot of things about Ultimates but I think Ultimates 1 did a perfect job breaking up screen time...everyone got decent face time, no one overwhelmed the other characters. If they could do a movie like that where the characters aren't total dickwads, that'd be ideal.