The Official Misc. Villians Reboot Thread

[Hole Shot]

Brainiac is a great villain but he has one flaw. If you're not familiar with the comic books his name is incredibley hokey.

 

[dark_b]

teh name? how in gods name would this be a problem.

 

[The Man of Steel]

agreed, what's wrong with it?

 

[I Am The Knight]

Brainiac is a great villain but he has one flaw. If you're not familiar with the comic books his name is incredibley hokey.

Oh come on. "Batman" ??

 

[Sawyer]

Just call him the Brain InterActive Construct.

 

[[A]]

Who's Luther ?

 

[Gmanofsteel]

I'd like to see either brainiac or metallo

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Who's Luther ?

Lex's long lost brother.lol

Oh come on. "Batman" ??

You got a point.

 

[BATZARRO WWD]

Brainiac is a great villain but he has one flaw. If you're not familiar with the comic books his name is incredibley hokey.

I see. Braniac has been used as a light insult for too long. It's like having a villain named LeDouche. But I'm sure there's a way to get the name across without the lameness factor.

 

[That-Guy]

"Brainiac" is too hokey? Give me a break. Dr. Octopus? The Green Goblin? Magneto? Blackheart? The Penguin? Mr. Freeze? Suspend disbelief a bit, will you?

And as far as Superman villains go, you can't serious tell me Brainiac sounds any cheesier than Metallo or Darkseid.

 

[Paul-el]

Have Brainiac and Darkseid ever worked together in the comics?

 

[Sawyer]

"Brainiac" is too hokey? Give me a break. Dr. Octopus? The Green Goblin? Magneto? Blackheart? The Penguin? Mr. Freeze? Suspend disbelief a bit, will you?

And as far as Superman villains go, you can't serious tell me Brainiac sounds any cheesier than Metallo or Darkseid.

Agreed.

 

[Hole Shot]

I see. Braniac has been used as a light insult for too long. It's like having a villain named LeDouche. But I'm sure there's a way to get the name across without the lameness factor.

Exactly. It's what people call someone that does something stupid when they're 8-years-old.

"Brainiac" is too hokey? Give me a break. Dr. Octopus? The Green Goblin? Magneto? Blackheart? The Penguin? Mr. Freeze? Suspend disbelief a bit, will you?

And as far as Superman villains go, you can't serious tell me Brainiac sounds any cheesier than Metallo or Darkseid.

Darkseid isn't too bad, but Metallo sucks. And if you look at Spiderman's villains, they get their name from a whacky news paper editor. So it works. Plus Spiderman isn't trying to sell itself as more "mature" as this forthcoming Superman.

Mr. Freeze, look how he turned out on screen? Nothing wrong with the Penguin depending on how you present it. Burton made him a weird mutant bird man. I think if Nolan were to give us Penguin he should only ever call himself Oswald Cobblepot but have his underworld rivals call him Penguin as a derogatory nickname.

So, stupid/corney/hokey names can work as long as it's given by other characters that in a way acknowledge how ridiculous it is.

Not too mention names like Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Penguin etc have been fixtures in our mainstream pop-culture for a very long time. So they're accepted easier.

 

[The Guard]

The way to make "Braniac" less cheesy is one, to use his real name (Vril Drox), and two, to play up the darker side of the concept of something that is all knowing. I don't think you need to have his name spoken every two seconds. It could easily just be a nickname Earth gives him.

 

[BATZARRO WWD]

"Brainiac" is too hokey? Give me a break. Dr. Octopus? The Green Goblin? Magneto? Blackheart? The Penguin? Mr. Freeze? Suspend disbelief a bit, will you?

And as far as Superman villains go, you can't serious tell me Brainiac sounds any cheesier than Metallo or Darkseid.

As I said, It's not that the names themselves are lame. It's that as soon as a presumpted alien inteligence refers to itself as "Brainiac", it will be a bit silly. I believe they should be christened by other characters when the names are a bit out there. Blackheart is actually a good name for a demon, though.

As for Metallo, well, that's just italian for metal. If I had to write it, I'd have an italian scientist help make it/him. Then Corben's all like "I ain't human no more, I'm all metal" And the scientist's all like "Di scheletro Metallo..."(probably mangled there, but the scientist's trying to emplain about his metal skeleton) and Corben's all "Metallo?" and grabs him by the scruff of the neck "Metallo!" and kills him or something.

Gasp

 

[MichaelEsquire]

My explanation: On the planet Colu, they invented the Brain Inter Active Construct, or as they referred to it, Brainiac. Meant to gather information on planets around the universe, it became self aware and came to the conclusion that the only way to gather ultimate intelligence is to gather all useful information and destroy the remainder, hence it's planet-obliterating attitude. Superman learns all of this from the Kryptonian archives found in the ship that brought him to Earth left by Jor-El.

What would I do to one up the reboot? Leave him for the third act movie and reveal he is the real reason for Krypton's destruction and wants to finish the job by destroying the last Kryptonian in the universe. This could tie into the title "Superman: Legacy" being that he is what's left of the legacy of his home world.

 

[Rage]

first introduce Krypton, Brainiac and General Zod.

Brainiac is responisble for destroying Krypton.

Zod ends up on earth. Clark must become Superman to stop Zod and Brainiac.

Lex is upset that another alien has appeared to stop the current alien threat (which he is attempting to handle with his own private army) and vows to stop him. He's not fooled by Superman like all the others. We get the tension between the 2. Lex hates Superman because he is an alien and he doesn't trust aliens and Superman hates Lex because he is a take no prisioners, whatever it takes to get the job done (including murder) businessman who thinks that he is the king of the world.

At the end of the movie we get a glimpse of things to come... Darkseid.

That way you get 4 villains and Superman actually buts head with 3 of them.

Rage

 

[I Am The Knight]

Who's Luther ?

I f***ing hate that.

You got a point.

I do, normally

I see. Braniac has been used as a light insult for too long. It's like having a villain named LeDouche. But I'm sure there's a way to get the name across without the lameness factor.

Is Shia LaBeouf involved?

Not too mention names like Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Penguin etc have been fixtures in our mainstream pop-culture for a very long time. So they're accepted easier.

So, in time, why can't Brainiac be accepted as well?

 

[Hole Shot]

first introduce Krypton, Brainiac and General Zod.

Brainiac is responisble for destroying Krypton.

I totally agree. I think the best villains to start a series off with are ones that are tied to a hero's origin.

 

[Chris B]

I chose Brainiac, Luthor, and Metallo.

I like this.

 

[[A]]

Lex's long lost brother.lol

Makes sense. There's actually five of 'em, right ?

 

[solidsnake86]

I still don't see people's fascination with darkseid. He really wont tie into the superman mythology nicely like brainiac does and really if they both appear in the series they are essentially the same villain. Brainiac could potentialy have the better story if tied into krypton.

In terms of brainiacs name being stupid look at darkseid (pronounced dark side) he sounds like a left over star wars villain.

If things were different I would have preferred brainiac in a third film as well, starting with luthor and having zod in a sequel with the phantom zone prisoners. Unfortunately this movie doesn't have the luxury of this and needs to begin big because lets face it, their might not be a sequel if this one doesn't work. Thats why I keep on bangint the drum for brainiac.

 

[8wid]

Making Bizarro a doppelganger so that he is almost near diagnosable with down syndrome and has distorted visions of doing good as evil and evil as good is ridiculous. Superman III's evil Superman inspires me to think that a clone should have the intentions directly opposite of Superman instead of not knowing good from evil, which is essential to making him a villain. What good is hating a bad guy who thinks like a toddler and just smashes things. An evil twin type personality sounds interesting to me. This version of Bizarro, lusts for power and believes he is superior to all other beings on Earth. Instead of deforming into a white powder upon dying. A genetic defect in his combination of human and Kryptonian DNA comes when he becomes extremely weak and can be injured extremely easily. Supes just punching could kill him, in fact for an interesting breaking of Superman's moral code, it could happen accidentally for a real conscience grabber.

 

[[A]]

Making Bizarro a doppelganger so that he is almost near diagnosable with down syndrome and has distorted visions of doing good as evil and evil as good is ridiculous.

Ouch. No.

 

[The Guard]

Making Bizarro a doppelganger so that he is almost near diagnosable with down syndrome and has distorted visions of doing good as evil and evil as good is ridiculous. Superman III's evil Superman inspires me to think that a clone should have the intentions directly opposite of Superman instead of not knowing good from evil, which is essential to making him a villain. What good is hating a bad guy who thinks like a toddler and just smashes things. An evil twin type personality sounds interesting to me. This version of Bizarro, lusts for power and believes he is superior to all other beings on Earth. Instead of deforming into a white powder upon dying. A genetic defect in his combination of human and Kryptonian DNA comes when he becomes extremely weak and can be injured extremely easily. Supes just punching could kill him, in fact for an interesting breaking of Superman's moral code, it could happen accidentally for a real conscience grabber.

Bizarro kind of writes himself. My SUPERMAN treatment features a version of Bizarro created by a well meaning Lex Luthor who ends up going rogue simply because he doesn't know any better, and never learned how to respond to various stimuli before escaping containment. He's not evil, and he doesn't lust for power, more to the point, he's a commentary on the need to control great power. He's essentially a Cadmus clone with the body of Superman and the mind of a Kryptonian newborn. He has the Kryptonian capacity for quick learning, but not before he begins to break down. This allows for a "superpowered battle" in an origin story without making the villain the focus of the film and allowing Luthor to keep his screentime.