The Official Previews Thread

[Muze]

Young Avengers did look interesting. i can't believe it was late though.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

face it. your as knee jerk about Bendis as i am. if he put his name on it, you would like it. you would swear up and down that it was going to be funny. you're like the Hamburglar doing a taste test between McDonalds and Burger King.

Ok, Ill admit, it might not be totally funny. Because Stan Lee, Mark Millar, J. Michael Straczynski, Garth Ennis, Brian K Vaughan, and Peter David and others (assumedly Dan Slott, Robert Kirkman, Peter Bagge, and Kieth Giffen and J.M. DeMatties) are writing it too. If only Bendis had full control would i be assured it would be funny

I havent liked all of Bendis work. I don't know where you got that (it must be because I disagree with you and don't completely hate him) I didn't find Disassembled that great (his weakest story yet). And there has been some mediocre work. But overall, he is a high-quality writer and Im willing to risk picking up all his work just so i can be assured to get his good stuff.

The difference is that I pick up all his work because I've enjoyed the majority of his work so far, whereas you avoid all his stuff because you hate one thing he did

 

[Zaptoitnow]

Honestly, I think we can all agree that Disassembled was, to say nothing of the plot points that some people hated, close to if not, Bendis' weakest work. It's unfortunate that while this was a bad hit, it was also probably his biggest and most hyped project at the time. I have a hard time imagining that had it gone differently, things would still be as tense as they are in any Bendis related thread. The only other thing people hold against him, is also one of the things that others ove the most, that being his pushing the Ultimate line to the success it's had. It's not really a matter of argument that the man can write. He's done great things, consider both DD and Alias. I think that if you take it for what it is, most will admit that USM is at least an entertaining read, and a well written book most of the time. The point I am trying to make here is that Bendis is a good writer as far as I am concerned and I really think that people are unrealistically hard on him.

 

[Muze]

Ok, Ill admit, it might not be totally funny. Because Stan Lee, Mark Millar, J. Michael Straczynski, Garth Ennis, Brian K Vaughan, and Peter David and others (assumedly Dan Slott, Robert Kirkman, Peter Bagge, and Kieth Giffen and J.M. DeMatties) are writing it too. If only Bendis had full control would i be assured it would be funny

really? so Bendis didn't write that preview i just read? because that's all i've seen of it so far.

I havent liked all of Bendis work. I don't know where you got that (it must be because I disagree with you and don't completely hate him) I didn't find Disassembled that great (his weakest story yet). And there has been some mediocre work. But overall, he is a high-quality writer and Im willing to risk picking up all his work just so i can be assured to get his good stuff.

then you're not very discriminating. congratulations.

The difference is that I pick up all his work because I've enjoyed the majority of his work so far, whereas you avoid all his stuff because you hate one thing he did

actually i read all of his stuff. i just don't purchase it. i like to have a full account of his crappiness. i mean how else would i know that he still hasn't addressed Ant-Man's death or had him appear in House of M like Hawkeye & other dead people?

 

[Muze]

Honestly, I think we can all agree that Disassembled was, to say nothing of the plot points that some people hated, close to if not, Bendis' weakest work. It's unfortunate that while this was a bad hit, it was also probably his biggest and most hyped project at the time. I have a hard time imagining that had it gone differently, things would still be as tense as they are in any Bendis related thread. The only other thing people hold against him, is also one of the things that others ove the most, that being his pushing the Ultimate line to the success it's had. It's not really a matter of argument that the man can write. He's done great things, consider both DD and Alias. I think that if you take it for what it is, most will admit that USM is at least an entertaining read, and a well written book most of the time. The point I am trying to make here is that Bendis is a good writer as far as I am concerned and I really think that people are unrealistically hard on him.

unrealistically. allow me to dip back into my bottomless bag of meaningless analogies. Bendis invited himself to my house, overflowed my toilet, wiped himself off with my work clothes, and then gave money to my favorite charity (in exchange for a tax break). now him giving to charity was a very positive act. but it doesn't in any way make up for him getting crap all over my clothing or stopping up the toilet. that's how i see Disassembled. for the rest of you, it was a bump in the road; a barely visible mark on the great Bendis' resume. chances are, you guys weren't Ant-Man fans; didn't care whether he got a good death or not. you might have been Vision, Hawkeye, or classic Avengers fans. thing is that Vision's back. Hawkeye's back. Captain America and Iron Man are still around. the other Avengers are soon to follow/scattered throughout House of M. even showing Hawkeye is like admitting that he screwed up by killing him. so, you still have hope; hope that even if Bendis doesn't like your characters, he will realize that enough people do to treat them with care. do any of you want to argue with me that Bendis cared about Ant-Man or gave him a hero's death (one that makes you recognize them as a hero)? it's insulting to have your favorite character die badly in a poor story and then be swept under the rug to make way for a market-friendly superteam. the least the b@stard could have done is apologize. that's how i see it.

p.s. the Ultimate line doesn't bother me in the least. it doesn't impact 616 continuity so i can ignore it.

 

[Sabretooth]

I'll admit that the "What if the Internet existed in 1965?" is kinda funny but I'm getting really sick of creators mocking the fans.

They should be rejoicing the we are interested enough in their work to actually care about things that could be seen as mistakes. But instead they take every chance they get to mock us and ridicule what we say/do.

I'm totally not buying Wha...Huh?

If I were Bendis,I'd do the same thing.Bendis started a fire that he won't be able to put out for some time.I mean,if I was him,and the fans treated me like crap,and got as personall as they do,I'd do the same back.Seriously,why kiss up to them when they'll only put him down? In every New Avengers issue,people can't just say it was a pretty good issue,it's alway something like,''Well,he got the powers right,but he wrote Dissassembled,so I still hate him.''

 

[Muze]

If I were Bendis,I'd do the same thing.Bendis started a fire that he won't be able to put out for some time.I mean,if I was him,and the fans treated me like crap,and got as personall as they do,I'd do the same back.Seriously,why kiss up to them when they'll only put him down? In every New Avengers issue,people can't just say it was a pretty good issue,it's alway something like,''Well,he got the powers right,but he wrote Dissassembled,so I still hate him.''

that's ******ed. all he'd have to do is admit his mistake/just how poor his work on Disassembled was and apologize. it'd be that simple. pride is what keeps something like this going.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

really? so Bendis didn't write that preview i just read? because that's all i've seen of it so far.

Im sorry, I must have not read the part where you said you were only refering to the preview and not the entire book and that you realized that Bendis was not the only one writing it. Ill pay more attention next time.

then you're not very discriminating. congratulations.

Yes I am. You see if I see Bendis name on the book, then I'll pick it up. If I don't, then I might not.

actually i read all of his stuff. i just don't purchase it. i like to have a full account of his crappiness. i mean how else would i know that he still hasn't addressed Ant-Man's death or had him appear in House of M like Hawkeye & other dead people?

Thank God for the comic shops that let you read off the shelves. Otherwise you would have to pay for your *****ing material


But anyway, that book is gonna be awesome. Can't wait for it. I missed out on Stupid Comics #3, so I havent seen Mahfood's art for a while now

 

[Muze]

Im sorry, I must have not read the part where you said you were only refering to the preview and not the entire book and that you realized that Bendis was not the only one writing it. Ill pay more attention next time.

yeah detective. you completely missed the subject heading "New Previews at Popcultureshock."

Thank God for the comic shops that let you read off the shelves. Otherwise you would have to pay for your *****ing material

i'd rather just thank the shop owner. i make up for it in DC and backissue purchases anyways.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Let me simplify it

aren't there funny writers who could have done this one-shot?

So unless you hate all those writers, I dont see what else you could mean.


Oh ****, this doesnt make sense now

 

[Muze]

You must have missed the part where I said I was looking forward to the book, not the preview.




You also must have missed the part where you assumed Bendis was writing all of it.

you're just misreading me. i'm talking about Bendis writing the part about Aunt Petunia's death. i didn't assume anything. it's right there in the preview.

 

[euroq]

Enough of that, please.

 

[Muze]

Enough of that, please.

posting something relevant would help.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Enough of that, please.

Im sorry, I couldnt help it


But in any case, something ****ed up with the Hype when I posted my last thing so it came before Muze's post, and now it looks I was the bigger man and stopped arguing and turning this into a Bendis thread first

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Enough of that, please.

Im sorry, I couldnt help it


But in any case, something ****ed up with the Hype when I posted my last thing so it came before Muze's post, and now it looks I was the bigger man and stopped arguing and turning this into a Bendis thread first

 

[Muze]

Im sorry, I couldnt help it


But in any case, something ****ed up with the Hype when I posted my last thing so it came before Muze's post, and now it looks I was the bigger man and stopped arguing and turning this into a Bendis thread first

you would need a cosmic cube to be the bigger man. but, seriously, Bendis is an @-hole. whether you smacktards recognize it or not, Scott Lang had potential. i can live with that. it's not my responsibility to enlighten all of you. by all means, keep on siphoning the debris off his rear.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

you would need a cosmic cube to be the bigger man. but, seriously, Bendis is an @-hole. whether you smacktards recognize it or not, Scott Lang had potential. i can live with that. it's not my responsibility to enlighten all of you. by all means, keep on siphoning the debris off his rear.

And that was little Muze's favorite bedtime story


So anyways, I'm kind of disappointed that Lark is doing the art for CA #9. I rather liked it that he only did the flashback art with Epting doing the real stuff. Plus, this is part 2 of the story, so it seems pretty weird (Epting and Lark's art don't look that similar).

They should have just put the House of M issue as #8, giving Epting two months off, so he could do all of the Winter Soldier without interruption.

But whatever now, Im still picking it up

 

[iloveclones]

that's ******ed. all he'd have to do is admit his mistake/just how poor his work on Disassembled was and apologize. it'd be that simple. pride is what keeps something like this going.

I never understand when people say that. Years ago, I used to read Stephen King books(You can insert almost any writer here). He's written his share of crappy ones and his fair share of entertaining ones. Never once did I assume that he should apologize for any of them. In fact, I would lose all respect for him if he did. He's not my friend. His bad writing didn't hurt my feelings. They may have made me stop buying and reading his books, but no skin off my nose. Why should he apologize?

 

[Muze]

I never understand when people say that. Years ago, I used to read Stephen King books(You can insert almost any writer here). He's written his share of crappy ones and his fair share of entertaining ones. Never once did I assume that he should apologize for any of them. In fact, I would lose all respect for him if he did. He's not my friend. His bad writing didn't hurt my feelings. They may have made me stop buying and reading his books, but no skin off my nose. Why should he apologize?

where have you been? his writing "hurt my feelings." he called my favorite character a bottom-feeder and killed him. not a heroic death. not meaningful to the story. no acknowledgment afterwards. crappy storyline. filled with other deaths that have already been reversed. what don't you get about that?!

 

[masteryoda]

I never understand when people say that. Years ago, I used to read Stephen King books(You can insert almost any writer here). He's written his share of crappy ones and his fair share of entertaining ones. Never once did I assume that he should apologize for any of them. In fact, I would lose all respect for him if he did. He's not my friend. His bad writing didn't hurt my feelings. They may have made me stop buying and reading his books, but no skin off my nose. Why should he apologize?

I'm assuming you're looking for an answer more sophisticated then "we're spoiled brats and want everything our way"?

 

[JewishHobbit]

I hate when people call writers stupid and such just because they didn't like something he wrote. I hated what Straczynski did to Gwen but do you see me going around saying Straczynski sucks? No,.. in fact I just went out and bought all four "Best of Spiderman" volumes containing his run from the beginning through sins past.

What point am I making? Yeah,.. you may not like what Bendis did in Disassembled,.. but why the personal insults? You don't know they guy (and "you" is a generalized statement, not directed toward anyone specifically). He's done good work and he's done bad work,... so has every other writer in the comic industry. Yeah it sucks that Ant Man died (personally in what I thought was a cool fashion) but it's cool that his legacy is living on in his daughter. It's funny Muze, you keep saying that he wasn't given a memorable death but frankly I remember his death better than most others I've seen in comics. Now this is coming from a guy who really doesn't much think one way or the other about the Avengers,.. and still when I think of great deaths I think of Scott Lang (higher than Hawkeye even). Why? Because not all deaths are to be heroic,.. sometimes they're tragic, and frankly the tragic deaths tend to tug at your heart more than the heroic ones.

Hmm,.. I hate my rambling problems. Well I guess I've said what I said. No offense ment to Muze or anyone else as this is just my opinion and you're entitled to yourown,.. but I just thought I'd post it.

 

[Muze]

I hate when people call writers stupid and such just because they didn't like something he wrote. I hated what Straczynski did to Gwen but do you see me going around saying Straczynski sucks? No,.. in fact I just went out and bought all four "Best of Spiderman" volumes containing his run from the beginning through sins past.

What point am I making? Yeah,.. you may not like what Bendis did in Disassembled,.. but why the personal insults? You don't know they guy (and "you" is a generalized statement, not directed toward anyone specifically). He's done good work and he's done bad work,... so has every other writer in the comic industry. Yeah it sucks that Ant Man died (personally in what I thought was a cool fashion) but it's cool that his legacy is living on in his daughter. It's funny Muze, you keep saying that he wasn't given a memorable death but frankly I remember his death better than most others I've seen in comics. Now this is coming from a guy who really doesn't much think one way or the other about the Avengers,.. and still when I think of great deaths I think of Scott Lang (higher than Hawkeye even). Why? Because not all deaths are to be heroic,.. sometimes they're tragic, and frankly the tragic deaths tend to tug at your heart more than the heroic ones.

Hmm,.. I hate my rambling problems. Well I guess I've said what I said. No offense ment to Muze or anyone else as this is just my opinion and you're entitled to yourown,.. but I just thought I'd post it.

thanks but you know what else would be memorable? Captain America slipping in the bathroom and cracking his skull wide open. know why you won't see that? because it's a lousy disrespectable way to go out. like i said, Bendis refered to him as a bottom-feeder. Quesada was making jokes about his skeleton. the death was so unimportant that they leaked it in Wizard. i really do have a reason to complain. it's just that none of you see that. you won't until a character you like goes out like some nameless civilian. a character who had to fight for recognition really should go out a hero; if possible. tragic would be Aunt May dying because she can't defend herself. Ant-Man should have gone down fighting or died in a way that reflected his life (taking a bullet for his daughter maybe); not like some South Park character.

p.s. i don't see a lot of heart-tugging going on. i saved a lot of the internet reactions to the death. most people thought it was funny or cool to see someone incinerated. thanks a ton Bendis.

 

[euroq]

Iron Man: House of M #3 (of 3)
http://www.buzzscope.com/reviews.php?id=4848

Marvel Team-Up #12
http://www.buzzscope.com/reviews.php?id=4849

Uncanny X-Men #464
http://www.buzzscope.com/reviews.php?id=4850

 

[euroq]

Captain America #10 - So, in the middle of the "Winter Soldier" story we suddenly get a ****ty HoM tie-in? I'm almost tempted to drop this book in protest.

http://www.buzzscope.com/reviews.php?id=4853

Runaways, Vol. 2 #8
http://www.buzzscope.com/reviews.php?id=4855

Daredevil: Father #3 (of 5)
http://www.buzzscope.com/reviews.php?id=4854

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

You could just skip an issue


By the way, have I mentioned how ugly the House of M tie-in sidebar logo looks. Whoever made that sucks complete ass