The Official Previews Thread

Ah, okay, thought you were talking about Drew for a second there.
 
Haha,"your boyfriend can seriously hurt me"

That look's like it's going to be a fun read.
 
Are the rest of the Avengers aware that Pete and MJ just lost a baby?....seems like everyone's a tad insensitive to it if they are aware..."Make me an offer MJ??".....hell even Pete and MJ seem unaffected by it....making quips..etc.....would have been nice to see one panel with MJ in a quiet subdued stance....no text needed.....readers would know what she was thinking about.....bahhh...I'm probably being too picky
 
WhatIfTales said:
Are the rest of the Avengers aware that Pete and MJ just lost a baby?....seems like everyone's a tad insensitive to it if they are aware..."Make me an offer MJ??".....hell even Pete and MJ seem unaffected by it....making quips..etc.....would have been nice to see one panel with MJ in a quiet subdued stance....no text needed.....readers would know what she was thinking about.....bahhh...I'm probably being too picky
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While I agree that it would be nice if their loss would be sometimes addressed I don't think it was necessary in this scene. There's still bad characterizations from Bendis here but sadly that's nothing new.

And no, I don't think the rest of the Avengers know about their stillborn baby. Besides, it didn't happen that recently, even in "Marvel time".
 
euroq said:
While I agree that it would be nice if their loss would be sometimes addressed I don't think it was necessary in this scene. There's still bad characterizations from Bendis here but sadly that's nothing new.

And no, I don't think the rest of the Avengers know about their stillborn baby. Besides, it didn't happen that recently, even in "Marvel time".
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The preview for NEW AVENGERS ANNUAL #1 looks fun. It looks like a new Super-Adaptoid is coming.

Wait....the New Avengers...actually fighting a supervillian?

An AVENGERS villian?

A POTENT villian?

I think Bendis has a ghostwriter this month. :p

Seriously, it looks keen. I didn't expect any mention of the "lost Parker baby" because Marvel pretty much has the same response to "mistakes" that most political engines have; ignoring it. Marvel wants to pretend the "Clone Saga" never happened, regardless of any sort of lingering things that the characters should be reacting to. Ben Reilly may have done a lot of harm to the Spidey-Mythos, but Peter technically loved him like a brother, and should still care about his loss (I mean, he's still guilted over Gwen). Losing a baby at childbirth is something few parents would forget. But Marvel's usually in a rush to depict Peter as a "young everyman", so notions of a lost baby do not fit into that. Of course, there are few "everymen" who live in Avengers Tower, have nanobot body-armor and are married to supermodels, but I digress. Marvel has never been good at a "moderate" solution to any issues they have with a character/universe; it has to be all "one" way or all "another" way, instead of a sprinkling of many approaches.

So, no, not surprised about the omission. Of course, maybe Peter and MJ are just putting on a show for friends and will keep their pain in private, like in some other page in the comic. I doubt it, but one never knows.
 
Wait.....they LOST a baby? How long ago......b/c, honestly....reading that preview (and yeah, it was cool) you wouldn't know. Pfttt, I didn't.
 
ChrisBaleBatman said:
Wait.....they LOST a baby? How long ago......b/c, honestly....reading that preview (and yeah, it was cool) you wouldn't know. Pfttt, I didn't.
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It was during REVELATIONS in the Spider-books where Ben Reilly was

a). Revealed, definitively, to be the clone (and NOT the "real" Peter Parker, undoing a very unpopular retcon)

b). Killed by a very-much-alive Norman Osborn, who returned after 20+ years in real time to claim that his Gobby steroids gave him a "healing factor" and he's been a quiet mastermind of the whole clone mess for a while. In retaliation, Spidey threw Gobby off a building with a sack full of his pumpkin bombs in an attempt to murder him, but Norman's since returned and pretty much been responsible for every hardship that Peter has ever faced since, from banging Gwen in college to putting his name on junk mail lists.

This would have been around 1996. During that story, MJ's water broke during Peter & Ben's fight with Gaunt, and she gave birth without them around. A doctor under the employ of Osborn whisked the baby elsewhere while telling MJ that it was "stillborn". Ever since, especially since the period after the Clone Saga was no bed of roses under Howard Mackie either, this plotline has faded into nothingness. The last plotline I recalled was Kaine attempting to chase down some "mysterious package" that Goblin's agents had, which was presumably that lost child. But ever since, it's been left to the dust-bins of fansites and message boards. The entire Clone Saga and whatever happened a year or two before or after is pretty much "ixnay" at Marvel, aside for occasional jokey references as "Don't get me started about clones", where you'd have gotten the impression that Spidey never cared for Ben Reilly, when in fact he saw him as a "surrogate brother" by the end.

In another reality, MC2, this baby is alive and well and becomes Spider-Girl.

This is not the first instance of Marvel distancing itself from continuity it doesn't like for a given character. Most X-people are obliged to remember that Cyclops essentially ABANDONED a wife and son in Alaska once Jean Grey came back from the dead to from X-FACTOR; fortunately, a demonic posession and a techno-organic virus helped eliminate this very problematic storyline from "tainting" Cyclops' moral character. But a better example would be from the FANTASTIC FOUR stories of the mid 90's before ONSLAUGHT, especially Johnny Storm's marriage to a woman he thought was Alicia Masters, who turned out to be a Skrull, Lyja Laserfist. Johnny was married faithfully to "Alicia" for years in real time before the reveal, and afterwards it was a heartbreaking sort of thing that got muddled (as Lyja still had some feelings for Johnny). Flip through more recent F4 comics, though, and you'd think Johnny had never been in a committed relationship before (let alone once MARRIED). Reed, Sue, and Ben even KID Johnny about his inability to settle down, which means that Marvel's considered this long-running story "ixnay", or, the Richards' are insensitive bastards and Johnny has selective amnesia. Take your pick.

Do I like all of these past storylines? No. But pretending they don't exist can rob characters of some emotions and reactions that could prove interesting, and retconning all EXISTANCE AND REACTION from a past story tells a current fan that stories don't matter, because at any moment they can be erased and omitted from mythos. Hence one reason why DEADLY GENESIS, at least in the eyes of Joe Q, is "underperforming" (because it is selling in the Top 15 each month instead of, presumably, the Top 10).
 
Wow....I thought DC had continuity problems....but Marvel blows it out of the water....

However....Batman's been through some of that baby and marriage stuff. He got married, and then broke it off....I guess,......and she had a baby, but he didn't know. But, it's been lost in that "ixnay" bin for a long time...until now. Seems like his baby son is going to return to continuity........so, maybe someday when Marvel feels it can suit them and create enough of a storm, they might bring MJ's and Pete's baby back.........although, I still find it incredibly amazing that they can get away with erasing stuff like that from their regular onging series.
 
Yeah, the panel layout is pretty confusing. Oliver Coipel suffers from Chris Bachello syndrome: decent figure rendering + s**ty panel composition.
 
heh jessica drew's afraid of babies. looks like she's not all powerful after all bendis! HA!
 
Are the last two pages of the preview a 2-page spread that's being shown separately? That'd explain the confusion.
 
Am I stupid for not knowing who the blond is? (Not Ms. Marvel, the blond without the mask)
 
There are three blond. Captain America, Sentry and...erm...I dunno who the blonde on the last page is, sorry.
 
X-Men: Fairy Tales looks interesting. I might check it out.
 
X-Men Fairy Tales looks awesome! I really like the anim-esque art style :D

But who'se the big guy next to Mystique? The Blob? Juggs?
 
captain america 18 looks great..really great..ive been loving this new run of his.

and the avengers looks great too!!
 
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