The Official PS4 Thread - Part 1

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Spade said:
Sony's stock is up more than 8% since the One reveal. Microsoft's down almost 1%. I hope this sends a message to the Microsoft brass.
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Sony was up on a much bigger unrelated story, also why the move is so large.
 
Yeah, exactly it spiked at 7/8 minutes past the start of the conference before any bad news or news of any kind! You think they tuned in and moved the stock 8% before the guy had even said anything? MSFT stock didn't even start to move until 22 minutes past and it's bounced back & recovered half of that loss already. Sony have a massive story about a spinoff of their whole entertainment division which is a lot bigger than any speed of light conclusions from the 1st few minutes of a conference.
 
Blackman said:
well i guess Im biased because IM a Halo and Gears fan, while on PS im just an Uncharted fan.
So sinc eI know that Xbox will eventually have a new Halo and Gears that Im not that worried about MS not showing games.

Honestly Im probably gonna get both systems the question just is which one is first. I guess it'll come down to what new exclusive games besides Gears, Halo, and Uncharted will come out at the launch
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I'm a bit biased as well because I was a Nintendo fanboy who jumped ship once I got a PS3. And the big reason why I prefer Sony's exclusive over Microsoft is because Sony has always felt like the Single player console, while Microsoft is targeted more towards MP. And wwhile watching the conference, I couldn't help but feel the same way that I felt when the Wii U was first revealed. It would be awesome to have for all of Nintendo's premiere franchises that I love, but other than that, what will it offer me from a gaming standpoint that I most likely won't already get with a PS4.

But I can't fault MS too much since they did say back when the original X-Box came out that they were going to be the number one entertainment system in the living room, and they're doing just that, but like I said, it doesn't appeal to me. Although I'm pretty sure my brother, who owned every PS console and handheld ever, is eventually going to get the One, since his son loved CoD and MP stuff and is upset because his friends were playing map packs before he could on the PS3. Not to mention, my brother has stopped gaming himself, so that aspect doesn't appeal to him as much anymore and he would probably find it convenient to watch movies and TV with kinect's fancy tech.
 
I love Halo and even like Gears and Forza, but not enough anymore. I don't see myself buying a X1 for myself at all. I was excited about the PS3 and 360 from the beginning but so far nothing has WOWED me, although the PS4 does look to be more interesting and worth my money in the long run.
 
Unless X1 has great games at E3, it looks like the PS4 will be my first next-gen console. I'll eventually get the X1 sometime next year, probably.
 
Only getting 1 console this new gen,Won't know which until after E3 and won't get it till early next year..But it's looking like PS4 for me
 
Hopefully sony has an answer on used games at E3 especially now that they see the trouble it'll cause microsoft now that they made the chose not to have it any more.
 
I'm excited to see what happens at E3 this year, but I'm pretty convinced that I will be getting a PS4.
 
Solidus said:
Because they won't have as many games as Sony and they know that. Sony has almost 32 or more in house devs. MS has 4. MS never has had as many exclusives. They just would blow their money on pointless timed exclusives and DLC. Not actual creation of games.

Sony has made way more IP's and continue to do so. MS says they are making new ones...but for what? Kinect ( I will bet so).

It's not just about the reveal though. It's about their message. Sony's message was to all devs that be free over here, make games the way you want to make them.

MS's was. NFL? Skype? TV? Have you heard of those? I will bet Sony shows more games/interesting games at E3.
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I do see MS going the way of the past couple of E3's. They're starting to become like Nintendo. Showing off 3 staples (Halo, Gears, Forza) like Nintendo's (Mario, Zelda, Pokemon), then going Kinect and multimedia heavy. Used to I'd tune in to all 3 E3 shows. Partially to see if the 360 and Wii could tempt me into a purchase, but also because I was curious what the competition was up to. Recently I haven't had that drive. I tune in to see what Sony has in store for the console I own, and then tune in to individual developers shows. Afterwards I read you guy's thoughts on the MS show to see if any interesting new multiplat games were shown, and thoughts on Nintendo to see if any new interesting handheld games were revealed.

The Squirrel said:
Sony pushed their relationship with Developers, and how they worked on the PS4 together. Microsoft was stood there and said, "Look at all these belles and whistles!" I think Sony had the better conference, and a clearer message.
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I took this as Sony learning their lesson. The PS3 was notorious for being hard to develop for, especially early in the gen. They also got flack early in the gen for inferior ports, and a lack of quality titles. This time I think they wanted to come out firing on all cylinders. They wanted to tell developers they're 100% supportive of their efforts, let gamers know good games are coming, and let indy developers know they have their back.

I think Microsoft on the other hand is just showing the face they've always wanted to show. They want it to be a family friendly gaming device that can pull Wii numbers. Above that however they want it to be be the only device you need in your living room (outside of a Windows 8 PC). They know they need the hardcore gaming crowd. They'll be the ones that make sure it sees a 7mil launch year, and push AAA sales to over 5 million.

They just want the console to be more than a gaming console. They want it to be what you turn to for everything. They want you to buy music from their stores, DL and watch movies on the X1, watch TV through it (especially if it's subscription based), play games on it, ect. I think the hardcore PC style gaming stuff was to get their foot in the door, and secure the hardcore US gaming audience. Now that they have that they can become what they really wanted to be in the first place. If that sounds like I'm making them sound like a villain, I'm not. It's actually a pretty smart strategy, it's just that they're risking losing the backbone of said strategy, hardcore gamers.
 
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I think Microsoft on the other hand is just showing the face they've always wanted to show. They want it to be a family friendly gaming device that can pull Wii numbers. Above that however they want it to be be the only device you need in your living room (outside of a Windows 8 PC). They know they need the hardcore gaming crowd. They'll be the ones that make sure it sees a 7mil launch year, and push AAA sales to over 5 million.

They just want the console to be more than a gaming console. They want it to be what you turn to for everything. They want you to buy music from their stores, DL and watch movies on the X1, watch TV through it (especially if it's subscription based), play games on it, ect. I think the hardcore PC style gaming stuff was to get their foot in the door, and secure the hardcore US gaming audience. Now that they have that they can become what they really wanted to be in the first place. If that sounds like I'm making them sound like a villain, I'm not. It's actually a pretty smart strategy, it's just that they're risking losing the backbone of said strategy, hardcore gamers.
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I understand what Microsoft is going for, it's just not what I need. Nothing they showed today caught my interest. I just want a good, solid gaming console.
 
The Squirrel said:
I understand what Microsoft is going for, it's just not what I need. Nothing they showed today caught my interest. I just want a good, solid gaming console.
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It's not for me either. All of that stuff is the icing on the cake. I have a laptop hooked up to my HDTV to do multimedia stuff my PS3 can't. Kinect ended up just turning me off the same way the Wii did. I can understand if that's awesome for others, and more power to them, but it's just not for me. That's why I liked the PS3's balance. A solid list of AAA first party games to complement all of the 3rd party games, multimedia functionality but not driven, and peripherals optional.
 
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RaZaTrOn said:
http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa
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They've already clarified this, kinda. It's in a post in the Xbox One thread.


Basically multiple tied accounts (think brothers) can use the same copy. Anyone else has to pay a full game fee. Even if borrowing from a friend, however they own the game after paying the fee at that point. Microsoft is also setting up a system to let you sell used games online, but hasn't clarified how.

So his original worries of something like Gamefly, Gamestop, or Craigslist are still valid, because of the full game fee, used games at Gamestop will become useless as you'll be paying for the used game ($30 or whatever) and then still pay full game price after. However your point of there being a way to sell used games is valid too. It's just that Microsoft hasn't revealed how they plan to implement it yet.

Like I said in the other thread, my guess is Microsoft themselves are going to act as the go between. Like a more controlled eBay. You deactivate the game on your system, then put it up for sale through your X1. Then the purchasers buys your copy, or atleast the code and ability to install the game perhaps at a reduced price. Then (again a guess) they Microsoft takes a little off the top since you are using their service, some of which can go to the original developer. Which would cover what some of the big developers have complained about with used games (which is silly, but that they don't get any money from second hand sales).
 
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The Squirrel said:
I understand what Microsoft is going for, it's just not what I need. Nothing they showed today caught my interest. I just want a good, solid gaming console.
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That's exactly where I'm coming from. It's cool what they're doing, but its not what I want. I'm not bashing them as a PS3 fanboy and saying they are crap, I'm just saying that I didn't see anything that said to me that I need to buy this.

However, I did see one tweet that rung very true during IGN's post-conference discussion, which was that sadly, Microsoft will gain more casual consumers than they will lose hardcore gamers. At the end of the day, money talks and I don't think Microsoft will be hurting too much because of this.
 
I can see game retailers pushing the crap out of PS4,The pre-owned games market is a huge slice of their business and the more people that own PS4's the better it is for them,They won't benefit from X1 apart from the initial sales of consoles and new games.
 
LuisTX85 said:
I can see game retailers pushing the crap out of PS4,The pre-owned games market is a huge slice of their business and the more people that own PS4's the better it is for them,They won't benefit from X1 apart from the initial sales of consoles and new games.
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Hopefully the PS4 won't reveal a ugly used game policy like Microsoft's.
 
I guess it's fine to share this here too :hehe: All that voice recognition/Big Brother stuff had me thinking...

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