The Official PS4 Thread - Part 6

[X Knight]

oh, and here's the official blog post announcement of 2.0 update:

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014...0-to-add-share-play-youtube-and-more-to-come/

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

brolic? not sure what you mean by that.....

but, yeah, Shareplay was the big feature they highlighted in their announcement of the 2.0 update. with more features to be announced.

by brolic I mean like really really huge, with a ton of stuff.

was shareplay that feature that was being advertised in that early ps4 commercial with this guy on his ps4 and his friend hits him up to say 'yo help me in killzone shadowfall' ??

 

[Thundercrack85]

The Xbone finally has someone competent at the helm.

Sony needs to get off its ass.

 

[X Knight]

by brolic I mean like really really huge, with a ton of stuff.

was shareplay that feature that was being advertised in that early ps4 commercial with this guy on his ps4 and his friend hits him up to say 'yo help me in killzone shadowfall' ??

ah. got you. yeah......this will be a big update, hence why they're skipping from 1.75 to 2.0 ( assuming no updates come out in the meantime ).

and, yeah, I believe Shareplay is that feature. but then, I've never really paid much attention when they talked about it cuz I really don't care about the feature........lol.

 

[X Knight]

The Xbone finally has someone competent at the helm.

Sony needs to get off its ass.

yes.

and the thing is, once I get media playback/support, and a Youtube app, I really couldn't care less what other features they add........lol.

I'm not a social gamer, so I don't really care for all these social features.

Media support, more organized UI, Youtube app, and a better browser would be the most important features for me.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Sony could win me back with PS2 backwards compatibility.

But they're not gonna do that. Unless Microsoft gives Xbox backwards compatibility.

Do it Microsoft.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

The Xbone finally has someone competent at the helm.

Sony needs to get off its ass.

we talkin phil spencer here?

ah. got you. yeah......this will be a big update, hence why they're skipping from 1.75 to 2.0 ( assuming no updates come out in the meantime ).

and, yeah, I believe Shareplay is that feature. but then, I've never really paid much attention when they talked about it cuz I really don't care about the feature........lol.

yeah I don't really care about it either but a lot of people seem to be excited about it regardless, you know?

when's the release date for this software

 

[X Knight]

I'm actually not much concerned about BC. I mean, it would be nice to be able to play all your games on one system. but, I don't play old games very much any more.

so, I can live without BC.

 

[X Knight]

we talkin phil spencer here?


yeah I don't really care about it either but a lot of people seem to be excited about it regardless, you know?

when's the release date for this software

yeah. Phil Spencer.

they said "fall" for the 2.0 update. so, it should be in the next few months.

 

[Thundercrack85]

A man can dream.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

yeah. Phil Spencer.

they said "fall" for the 2.0 update. so, it should be in the next few months.

probably closer to the release date of destiny, i would guess.

and raven, tell me honestly, are you disappointed about what i've done

 

[X Knight]

and really, I think the difference in pr/marketing "style" between Sony and MS is due prob in part to their current position in the console race.

MS is the underdog right now. so, they're playing more aggressively. They're on the offense.

Sony is sitting in the lead. So, they're more in defense mode, trying to maintain their lead. hence, they're not playing the game as aggressively.

the trouble they can get into is falling into complacent mode. If they take their lead for granted, they could very well fall behind MS at some point.

or, it could very well be that the X1 damaged itself so much in the early going, that it will never fully recover and overtake the PS4.

only time will tell. This Holiday season will be very important for MS and the X1.

 

[X Knight]

probably closer to the release date of destiny, i would guess.

and raven, tell me honestly, are you disappointed about what i've done

hey, if all the new features come in September, I'm not complaining........

oh, and what have you done?

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

and really, I think the difference in pr/marketing "style" between Sony and MS is due prob in part to their current position in the console race.

MS is the underdog right now. so, they're playing more aggressively. They're on the offense.

Sony is sitting in the lead. So, they're more in defense mode, trying to maintain their lead. hence, they're not playing the game as aggressively.

the trouble they can get into is falling into complacent mode. If they take their lead for granted, they could very well fall behind MS at some point.

i think you're right about everything you said and particularly your last statement, I think it is already happening. I think the gap's been closing since the price was cut, even if the Ps4 still outsold the xbone

hey, if all the new features come in September, I'm not complaining........

oh, and what have you done?

well I answered you in the xbox thread that I have indeed sold my Ps4... and I have the destiny bundle preordered for pickup at best buy on the 9th of next month

 

[Thundercrack85]

Right now, short of making a new Crimson Skies or Perfect Dark, I don't know what more Microsoft can do to make the Xbone enticing.

Start giving free bags of pot with it?

 

[zenith16]

it's funny before this guy became a Sony rep he had a show like Vic did , called game addicts or Attic's its just sounded like addicts with the song. and he did his show from his attic. It was a weird show too. And then sony picked him up from that.

A Tribute to Sony’s Matt Levitan
EPN.TV​

Our good friend Matt Levitan from PlayStation Canada is moving on after spending a decade at the company. Since we've interviewed him dozens of times over the years, we thought it would be nice to take a look back at some of the best.

source: EPN.TV​

 

[X Knight]

i think you're right about everything you said and particularly your last statement, I think it is already happening. I think the gap's been closing since the price was cut, even if the Ps4 still outsold the xbone


well I answered you in the xbox thread that I have indeed sold my Ps4... and I have the destiny bundle preordered for pickup at best buy on the 9th of next month

ah. how much did you get for your PS4?

and you mentioned it might have been buggy, was it still under warranty?

well, I can't say I "approve" of what you did. I try to be very practical/frugal, especially when it comes to a big ticket item like a console. If I already have a console, I couldn't see myself selling it ( at a loss ) just to get it again in a different color.

however, it was your decision, and you have to do what you have to do. Hopefully, you were able to get good money for your PS4 which you can use towards the new one.

I mean, I'm way more practical now, but when I was younger, I know I did make some "impulse" console buys that, looking back now, just seems so silly and stupid.

And please note, I'm not calling you stupid. I'm calling myself stupid.

Like, when the Dreamcast came out, it was released in Japan 1st. I wanted it soooooooo bad and couldn't wait. So, I ordered an import Japanese console, at a premium price, and I don't understand a d*** word of Japanese.

I only got a few games for it ( in Japanese ) and only played it a few times. eventually I sold it ( at a loss of course ) so I could buy the American version when it came out.

And even then, I made another impulse decision. Normally, when it comes to consoles, I wait for XMAS or my Birthday or else some special occasion ( like if I won a competition ). My parents never let me just go out and buy something expensive like a console. They wanted me to be patient and wait.

So, when the Dreamcast came out in the US, I traded in a bunch of games and used the money from selling the import console and I went right out and bought it, without my parents' knowledge. I was supposed to wait for XMAS, but again, I couldn't wait.

Needless to say, when my parents found out, they were pretty pissed. I had to go back to the store and return the console ( and the store wasn't too happy about that, either ).

I ended up getting the Dreamcast for XMAS. But, looking back on the whole situation with older ( and hopefully wiser ) eyes, I see what I did throughout that period as very impulsive and stupid.

Incidentally, after all that, I actually slowed way down in buying games. I just........lost interest. I stopped going to the game stores less often. In fact, there was a long period where I really didn't even touch games.

It wasn't until the 360/PS3 came out that I started to get interested in gaming again. But, even now, I don't buy or play games that much.

And I'm way more practical and frugal in my buying decisions.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Ah, but better to have those fond memories than a few hundred dollars you would probably have spent on junk food and other stuff that you probably wouldn't even remember.

My last impulse buy was a Wii U.

I don't regret it yet, but holy hell is that system flawed. And I don't even mean the fact that I've had to return two now (one had a bad fan, the other an HDMI connector problem).

Actually Raven X is right, be careful with your money.

 

[X Knight]

Ah, but better to have those fond memories than a few hundred dollars you would probably have spent on junk food and other stuff that you probably wouldn't even remember.

My last impulse buy was a Wii U.

I don't regret it yet, but holy hell is that system flawed. And I don't even mean the fact that I've had to return two now (one had a bad fan, the other an HDMI connector problem).

Actually Raven X is right, be careful with your money.

well, I wouldn't exactly call those memories "fond" ( especially when you take into account my parents' reaction ).

but, actually, it was a very good lesson. And I did grow and learn and become wiser/more mature from that incident.

Like, even now, I'm more and more interested in getting an X1. I have enough in gift cards accumulated to afford it. So, technically, I could go out right now and buy one. But, I'm not.

For one, I still follow the family tradition of buying these things at XMAS or BDAY time.

And, the practical side of me is saying to wait. Now that I know they are releasing a 1 TB version, why would I go out and buy the 500 GB version. Maybe, by next year, the 1 TB will be a standard version. Maybe there will be another price drop.

Right now, there aren't a whole lot of X1 exclusive games that I'm interested in. Multiplat games I can get on my PS4.

And, if the PS4 just adds certain features (cough......cough), perhaps there will be no immediate reason for me to go out and get an X1.

So, even though I can buy an X1 now, I'm going to be practical and prudent about it.

And, I guess that's the lesson I'm trying to impart by relaying my experiences and stories. Be practical and prudent with your money.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

ah. how much did you get for your PS4?

and you mentioned it might have been buggy, was it still under warranty?

well, I can't say I "approve" of what you did. I try to be very practical/frugal, especially when it comes to a big ticket item like a console. If I already have a console, I couldn't see myself selling it ( at a loss ) just to get it again in a different color.

however, it was your decision, and you have to do what you have to do. Hopefully, you were able to get good money for your PS4 which you can use towards the new one.

I mean, I'm way more practical now, but when I was younger, I know I did make some "impulse" console buys that, looking back now, just seems so silly and stupid.

And please note, I'm not calling you stupid. I'm calling myself stupid.

Like, when the Dreamcast came out, it was released in Japan 1st. I wanted it soooooooo bad and couldn't wait. So, I ordered an import Japanese console, at a premium price, and I don't understand a d*** word of Japanese.

I only got a few games for it ( in Japanese ) and only played it a few times. eventually I sold it ( at a loss of course ) so I could buy the American version when it came out.

And even then, I made another impulse decision. Normally, when it comes to consoles, I wait for XMAS or my Birthday or else some special occasion ( like if I won a competition ). My parents never let me just go out and buy something expensive like a console. They wanted me to be patient and wait.

So, when the Dreamcast came out in the US, I traded in a bunch of games and used the money from selling the import console and I went right out and bought it, without my parents' knowledge. I was supposed to wait for XMAS, but again, I couldn't wait.

Needless to say, when my parents found out, they were pretty pissed. I had to go back to the store and return the console ( and the store wasn't too happy about that, either ).

I ended up getting the Dreamcast for XMAS. But, looking back on the whole situation with older ( and hopefully wiser ) eyes, I see what I did throughout that period as very impulsive and stupid.

Incidentally, after all that, I actually slowed way down in buying games. I just........lost interest. I stopped going to the game stores less often. In fact, there was a long period where I really didn't even touch games.

It wasn't until the 360/PS3 came out that I started to get interested in gaming again. But, even now, I don't buy or play games that much.

And I'm way more practical and frugal in my buying decisions.

I sold it for $345 with an extra controller. I bought my Ps4 for $450, during the winter, at a time where it was sold out everywhere and you couldn't find one. So I lost $105, and another $80 if you count the dualshock 4 I included to the person I sold it to since it was the red one that's not out yet in the U.S

it probably was still under warranty (I don't really know, I just bought the console), there probably were things I could've done about it but like you said, ultimately this was my decision and hopefully I'm happy with it when it gets here.

And yo, that story with the dreamcast... I can understand that man, I remember being a little kid and even a teenager and being really gitty for things that I wanted, in fact I think last time I felt that way for a game was gtasa lol

but for real, perhaps you made some mistakes but you were a kid, that's no big deal... hell, it makes for a funny story to tell you know! you can call it a stupid mistake, i call it learning. it's been like what, 15 years since the dreamcast launched?

i'm guessing you're on your own now and do your own things, and yeah I don't normally make impulsive decisions either but my original ps4 purchase was definitely one. in fact, what influenced me to get a ps4 in the first place was when one of my best friends who's basically an xbox fanboy got an xbone. i've said over and over that i am a playstation fanboy, i'll admit it, BUT, I try to be rational about it, you know? i'm not gonna just sit here and talk **** about xbox all day, because everything, EVERYTHINGs got its ups and downs, including the stuff you support, you know?

and I wanted you to be honest... if you deadass think it was stupid of me to get rid of the black ps4 to get the white one, I wouldn't mind if you told me it was a dumbass thing to do, because it probably was, since I couldn't come to my sense to realize that this was all a lot of trouble to go through just for a white colored ps4.

at the end of the day though, I'll still have a Ps4 in my possession, it's all about the games and if the games entertain, it wasn't all for nothing

 

[X Knight]

I sold it for $345 with an extra controller. I bought my Ps4 for $450, during the winter, at a time where it was sold out everywhere and you couldn't find one. So I lost $105, and another $80 if you count the dualshock 4 I included to the person I sold it to since it was the red one that's not out yet in the U.S

it probably was still under warranty (I don't really know, I just bought the console), there probably were things I could've done about it but like you said, ultimately this was my decision and hopefully I'm happy with it when it gets here.

And yo, that story with the dreamcast... I can understand that man, I remember being a little kid and even a teenager and being really gitty for things that I wanted, in fact I think last time I felt that way for a game was gtasa lol

but for real, perhaps you made some mistakes but you were a kid, that's no big deal... hell, it makes for a funny story to tell you know! you can call it a stupid mistake, i call it learning. it's been like what, 15 years since the dreamcast launched?

i'm guessing you're on your own now and do your own things, and yeah I don't normally make impulsive decisions either but my original ps4 purchase was definitely one. in fact, what influenced me to get a ps4 in the first place was when one of my best friends who's basically an xbox fanboy got an xbone. i've said over and over that i am a playstation fanboy, i'll admit it, BUT, I try to be rational about it, you know? i'm not gonna just sit here and talk **** about xbox all day, because everything, EVERYTHINGs got its ups and downs, including the stuff you support, you know?

and I wanted you to be honest... if you deadass think it was stupid of me to get rid of the black ps4 to get the white one, I wouldn't mind if you told me it was a dumbass thing to do, because it probably was, since I couldn't come to my sense to realize that this was all a lot of trouble to go through just for a white colored ps4.

at the end of the day though, I'll still have a Ps4 in my possession, it's all about the games and if the games entertain, it wasn't all for nothing

well, $345 is pretty good. That covers a good deal of the cost of the new one.

I believe you mentioned that you got the White bundle preordered at Best Buy. Are you planning on getting an extended warranty this time? Or, are you just going to take your chances?

Well, I hope you enjoy your White PS4 better! t:

Now, just don't sell it when the Flaming Fabulous Fuchsia model is announced.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

well, $345 is pretty good. That covers a good deal of the cost of the new one.

I believe you mentioned that you got the White bundle preordered at Best Buy. Are you planning on getting an extended warranty this time? Or, are you just going to take your chances?

Well, I hope you enjoy your White PS4 better! t:

Now, just don't sell it when the Flaming Fabulous Fuchsia model is announced.

$345 is alright but you have to consider I'm also giving away an extra controller, one that I paid an extra $20 for a total of $80 adding up to about $185 that I'm losing, lol...

well the thing is... damn, I don't think I even got a warranty on my Ps3. So what happens if I buy my Ps4 without a warranty and it bricks? I'm just stuck with a broken console and have to buy it again?

and nawhhhhh man, trust me the white Ps4 will stick with me forever. till there's a Ps5.

 

[X Knight]

$345 is alright but you have to consider I'm also giving away an extra controller, one that I paid an extra $20 for a total of $80 adding up to about $185 that I'm losing, lol...

well the thing is... damn, I don't think I even got a warranty on my Ps3. So what happens if I buy my Ps4 without a warranty and it bricks? I'm just stuck with a broken console and have to buy it again?

and nawhhhhh man, trust me the white Ps4 will stick with me forever. till there's a Ps5.

well, the $185 is part of the cost of your quest to get a White PS4.

if you don't get an extended warranty, 1st, you should be covered by the retailer's return period. which can be 15-30 days ( or more ) depending on the retailer ( and your status/membership level there ).

Then, you should be covered by the manufacturer's warranty period, which is usually a year. In that case, if it breaks, you'll have to send it to Sony for them to repair/replace.

The extended warranty just gives you an extra layer of protection, and you usually let the store handle the repair/sending off/replacement. For consoles, the extended warranty is usually 2 years, I think. And often, when it is about to expire, they may send you a notice and ask if you want to extend it for another year or 2 ( don't know if they do that with consoles ).

If it bricks during the warranty period, you should be covered and should be able to get it repaired or replaced.

If it bricks outside the warranty period, then you'll have to buy another console ( or pay to have it sent off and repaired, I guess ).

Now, you'll get conflicting opinions on whether extended warranties are worth it. Some say yes, others say no.

I can just tell you, from my own experience with electronics, and shopping at Best Buy, having an extended warranty has come in handy several times. saving me not only on the cost of repairs, but also letting me get the item replaced if they can't fix it. However, I've never had an issue with a console I've bought from Best Buy, so I've never had to use the benefits of the extended warranty I bought on the console.

I believe the X1 extended warranty at Best Buy costs about $90, so I'd imagine the PS4 would be similar.

so, the question then becomes, do you want to spend an extra $90 for that "extra layer of protection" which you may or not have to use. Or, do you take your chance with the standard 1 year manufacturer's warranty and hope the console doesn't brick once it is outside that warranty period.

for example, say you opt to spend $90 for a 2 year extended warranty, then when it expires, they give you the option to extend it for another 2 years for another $90 ( the extension is usually cheaper ). so, over the course of those 4 years, you'd have spent an extra $180 to "insure" your console. vs the standard 1 year manufacturer's warranty.

so, during those 4 years, if the console bricks, you can get it replaced, saving the cost of buying a new PS4 ( $400 or whatever it cost at that time ).

otoh, if the console doesn't have a problem and lasts beyond those 4 years ( which is good.....lol ), then you're "out" that extra $180.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

well, the $185 is part of the cost of your quest to get a White PS4.

if you don't get an extended warranty, 1st, you should be covered by the retailer's return period. which can be 15-30 days ( or more ) depending on the retailer ( and your status/membership level there ).

Then, you should be covered by the manufacturer's warranty period, which is usually a year. In that case, if it breaks, you'll have to send it to Sony for them to repair/replace.

The extended warranty just gives you an extra layer of protection, and you usually let the store handle the repair/sending off/replacement. For consoles, the extended warranty is usually 2 years, I think. And often, when it is about to expire, they may send you a notice and ask if you want to extend it for another year or 2 ( don't know if they do that with consoles ).

If it bricks during the warranty period, you should be covered and should be able to get it repaired or replaced.

If it bricks outside the warranty period, then you'll have to buy another console ( or pay to have it sent off and repaired, I guess ).

Now, you'll get conflicting opinions on whether extended warranties are worth it. Some say yes, others say no.

I can just tell you, from my own experience with electronics, and shopping at Best Buy, having an extended warranty has come in handy several times. saving me not only on the cost of repairs, but also letting me get the item replaced if they can't fix it. However, I've never had an issue with a console I've bought from Best Buy, so I've never had to use the benefits of the extended warranty I bought on the console.

I believe the X1 extended warranty at Best Buy costs about $90, so I'd imagine the PS4 would be similar.

so, the question then becomes, do you want to spend an extra $90 for that "extra layer of protection" which you may or not have to use. Or, do you take your chance with the standard 1 year manufacturer's warranty and hope the console doesn't brick once it is outside that warranty period.

for example, say you opt to spend $90 for a 2 year extended warranty, then when it expires, they give you the option to extend it for another 2 years for another $90 ( the extension is usually cheaper ). so, over the course of those 4 years, you'd have spent an extra $180 to "insure" your console. vs the standard 1 year manufacturer's warranty.

what stuck out to me most in your post was that you said in your experience, it is a good idea to buy warranties for electronics when buying from best buy. do they give out shoddy items sometimes?

and then right after that you said you've never had an issue buying a console for them, so... well honestly, I can purchase a warranty for it later right? I don't have to get it right away?

or does it have to be immediate. if it does, then eh... I might just take my chances coz I don't always believe in protection plans, but who knows. might be a smart thing to do, but i am going to be in college when this happens so there's more important things to keep my mind on anyway

 

[X Knight]

what stuck out to me most in your post was that you said in your experience, it is a good idea to buy warranties for electronics when buying from best buy. do they give out shoddy items sometimes?

and then right after that you said you've never had an issue buying a console for them, so... well honestly, I can purchase a warranty for it later right? I don't have to get it right away?

or does it have to be immediate. if it does, then eh... I might just take my chances coz I don't always believe in protection plans, but who knows. might be a smart thing to do, but i am going to be in college when this happens so there's more important things to keep my mind on anyway

I'm not sure if you have to buy the warranty right away. I think you do, though, or else there might be a small "grace period" window where you can go back and add it on. You'd have to ask and clarify that before buying. I don't think you can buy the console, then several months or a year later, go back and add the warranty.

In my case, I wouldn't say I've bought "shoddy" products from Best Buy. The situations where the extended warranty came into play involved laptops and an HD TV. And those usually experienced problems/broke down several years in. But then, those are also "high use" items that are on all the time.

As for consoles, like I said, haven't had an issue with those.

I got my 360 from BB back in 2008. Hearing all the reports of RROD got me nervous, so I opted for an extended warranty. So I've had it for 6 years and never had a problem.

Got my PS3 from BB a year later in 2009. Again, went with an extended warranty. 5 years in......haven't had a problem.

now, perhaps that's due in part to my usage of the consoles. Again, I'm now more a casual gamer, so my consoles don't get heavy usage.