Excel said:
i CANT be the only one who noticed-
SUPERMAN 2 is WAY too far alog to be out for summer 2009.
1. singer has already signed on. it took nolan about a year longer
2. there is already a title
3. theres already plot discussion
4.Singers is already writing it
but the biggest....
5. THE PRODUCERS SAY IT WILL BEGIN FILMING MID TO LATE 2007]
It doesnt take 2 years to film. Returns began filming in march 05 for a june 06t release date. a span of 15 months.
if superman begins filming between may-october of 2007, then the OBVIOUS release date is HOLIDAYS 2008!!
1 Just because someone isn't signed on immediatly doesn't mean that a movie will come out earlier. With the amazing response Batman Begins got , it was a no brainer to sign on Nolan for the sequel. But there was no rush because
A WB is still working with it's superhero release date which is is to release a major superhero movie every year. They had planned for Wonder Woman to be released in '07. So it would be '05 Batman , '06 Superman Returns , '07 Wonder Woman , 08' Batman Sequel , ' 09 Superman Sequel.
B Nolan had said to WB that he would make the Prestige post BB and only after the prestige would he begin work on TDK.
2 There is no title yet. Only a rumored title. Until it's confirmed i wouldn't go to say THAT THERE IS A TITLE.
3 Doesn't mean that the movie will come out in 2008. Singer did propose a basic idea to Alan Horn when he was invited to Dinner by him. It could very well be that Singer told Horn what he envisioned as his trilogy. The Matrix Sequels were also long set yet it took almost 4 years before the next one came out.
4 A script isn't written that easily. Sure it does help when you already have a basic idea of what you want in the 2nd and 3rd sequels , but it doesn't really mean anything. I'll take the example of X2 which was also a no brainer after the success of X1. And how long did it take to appear after X1....3 years.
5 True , it doesn't take 2 years to film.
IT DOES HOWEVER TAKE 2 years to create complex VFX sequences.
To give you an example of how long post-prod. on BIG budget VFX blockbusters take place
Spiderman 3 : 2 years.
Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions : 4 years
Star Wars Ep 2 and Ep 3 : 1.5 years.
The fact that sequel is going to be a bigger movie in terms of size and scope then returns , means that they'll take even longer to create the VFX. Also i really don';t tink that Returns had a shooting schedule of 15 months. No big budget movie has that kind of shooting schedule , unless you're talking about back to back sequels such as Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions and Lord Of The Rings.
http://movies.about.com/od/superman/a/superman021206.htm
See this article.
Bryan Singer on Reshoots: Singer said they did not have to do many reshoots. We have only one pick-up day in Los Angeles, but that was it. What I did was I switched my schedule. I had shot for 107 days [and] originally I was going to shoot for 128 days.
Or this article :
http://www.filmjournal.com/filmjournal/filmmakers/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002726816
When you're making a film like The Usual Suspects, you have a 35-day shooting schedule and then 15 weeks of post," he says, sighing. "Here we had 140 days of shooting followed by eight months of post-production.
So you see , no 15 month shooting schedule.
Because the groundwork has already been laid , they know how to continue with the VFX. They don't have to start from scratch with the VFX. But they'll have to take their time again with the VFX and as far as i know no sequel has had a shorter post. prod. time then it's predecessor.
and a 6th point to adress : WB doesn't want it's comic book franchises to compete with each other. So a Batman movie is release ,you'll only see a batman movie that year. No superman movie.
In short :
NO WAY IN HELL THAT Warner is going release the sequel in '08