The Official Stupid Question Thread: Marvel Edition - Part 4

[javi1024]

They pretty much already exiled his ass to limbo in favor of the Sam Jackson knockoff. I can't remember the last time I seen the real Fury.

The comic movie era has certainly had it's negative impact on the long time fans.

He's retired now, chilling in a dusty motel room recounting war stories of his youth in Fury Max. But I believe the title is being canceled soon.

 

[Shockdingo]

Not that it matters, they'll probably end up killing him off for good come the next big event so his Sam Jacksonesq son can be the only Fury in the MU.

No!!! Don't give them any ideas!

 

[runawayboulder]

He's retired now, chilling in a dusty motel room recounting war stories of his youth in Fury Max. But I believe the title is being canceled soon.

Different continuity. Besides, I'm pretty sure that it was only meant to be a maxi-series.

 

[javi1024]

If it is a different continuity it wouldn't be plausible that's what he'd be doing now anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if the new Fury will now forever be the permanent Fury.

 

[The Question]

What is it with the X-Men and blue people?

 

[runawayboulder]

You got something against blue people?

Good thing the 'R' word is banned around these parts.

 

[javi1024]

Rutabaga?

 

[The Question]

Why does everyone care so much about recreating the Super Soldier serum? I mean, it's great, Cap is truly phenomenal, but it seems to me that Spider-Man is, physically speaking, capable of doing all the things Cap can much better than he can, plus a couple other neat things on top of that. Why isn't everyone scrambling to recreate Spider-Man instead?

 

[Manic]

Why does everyone care so much about recreating the Super Soldier serum? I mean, it's great, Cap is truly phenomenal, but it seems to me that Spider-Man is, physically speaking, capable of doing all the things Cap can much better than he can, plus a couple other neat things on top of that. Why isn't everyone scrambling to recreate Spider-Man instead?

Because very few people know how Spider-Man was created in the first place? Hell, does Peter even know the exact circumstances? We know it was a radioactive spider that bit him, but you'd have to figure out how to recreate the radioactive spider, and I imagine it's gotta be tough to douse a spider with a healthy dose of radiation without killing it. What kind of radiation was it, anyway?

 

[Havok83]

Good point. Spidey's creation was a completely fluke unlike Cap's which was a science project with actual data and planning behind it

 

[Manic]

Really, the government would have an easier time headhunting mutants. Which they do.

 

[Panthro]

Re-submitted from the very end of the last page - What trade follows Thor: Gods on Earth?

 

[Anubis]

Spiral I think

 

[KevanG]

Really, the government would have an easier time headhunting mutants. Which they do.

Well they did until Cyclops grabbed them all and said "My preciouses! HSSSS!!!".

 

[Joeyjojo72]

They pretty much already exiled his ass to limbo in favor of the Sam Jackson knockoff. I can't remember the last time I seen the real Fury.

The comic movie era has certainly had it's negative impact on the long time fans.

True... but totally worth it. (Broken eggs and omelettes yada yada)

 

[Manic]

Well they did until Cyclops grabbed them all and said "My preciouses! HSSSS!!!".

Eh. With the mutant population booming again, it's only a matter of time before the government parades out their own team of young, good looking mutants who (unbeknownst to the kids themselves) will be used as anti-X-Men propaganda.

 

[KevanG]

True enough. We'll see the propaganda being "The X-Men nearly destroyed the world by fighting the Avengers over INFINITE POWA!!! Our team never did that! Look at out pretty young freaks... I mean heroes. Yes, HEROES!"

 

[Manic]

Insert an overlong hero vs. hero fight where they face off against the X-Men for the better part of a year, make sure both sides look like a-holes, and profit.

 

[Mulholland-Jr]

They pretty much already exiled his ass to limbo in favor of the Sam Jackson knockoff. I can't remember the last time I seen the real Fury.

The comic movie era has certainly had it's negative impact on the long time fans.

This. Keep both mediums separate please.

 

[Manic]

In fairness, Marvel had shoved Nick Fury Classic aside in favor of Maria Hill (then Tony Stark, then Norman Osborn, then Steve Rogers) long before they brought Samuel L. Fury into the 616 universe. The people in charge clearly just don't like the guy.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

It's a simple situation of adding insult to injury by replacing him with the movie knock-off version. Not only has Fury been shoved to the back burner like Manic said, but he's been replaced to cater to a specific crowd that moved to comics after seeing the movies.

It's insulting to long-time fans who like the original Fury, and it's an insult to the movie cross-over crowd by assuming they can't tell the difference between two mediums and need everything to match perfectly.

 

[Shockdingo]

Why does everyone care so much about recreating the Super Soldier serum? I mean, it's great, Cap is truly phenomenal, but it seems to me that Spider-Man is, physically speaking, capable of doing all the things Cap can much better than he can, plus a couple other neat things on top of that. Why isn't everyone scrambling to recreate Spider-Man instead?

I have a couple of theories;

-Mass production. Look at Spider-man, Hulk and FF, those are incredible accidents that gave these people amazing and at times unstable abilities. Gamma radiation has been shown to have a strong psychological component, thus recreating the Hulk either outright kills people, makes them unstable (FLux from Dogs of War) or something else. Also, with a serum, it's not fool proof for side effects, but mixing batches probably aren't as taxing on resources, and recruits probably have a quicker adjustment to the changes and are able to be deployed faster.

-Buying into the legend: Cap is one of the greatest in the MU, and at times people think all that bravery, iron will and spirit came from the serum, but it's all him. I don't know whether this is true, but there was a discussion a bit back on if the serum affected Steve's brain and aided with tactics--hard to say really, but probably gone past the point of logic in some circles (many villains are fanatical) and gone into pride. Imagine some putz gaining the acclaim for finally doing re-creating it. It would also be an in your face flipping of the bird by the creators to Cap. "You're one of the greatest because of this, but now, you're obsolete, we've found the secret and now there will be more, but they will be ours.


That's at least what I think.

 

[DawnWarrior]

I just remembered a while back in the 90's, right after Illyana died from the Legacy virus. Colossus ditched the X-Men and joined Magneto's Acolytes. Eventually he rejoined the good guys of course. So what was the reason given for him going bad?

 

[Havok83]

Colossus never went bad. He simply stopped believing in Xavier's dream. He just reunited with his brother, who seemingly got killed days later. He lost Callisto, whom he had feelings for. His parents were then killed. Following that, he suffered a head injury fighting X-Cutioner which trapped him in armored form, making him more aggressive. Then Illyana, the last person he had left died. It was just too much within a few short weeks of each other. He felt Xavier felt him and his family and when Magneto made the offer to offer any mutant safe haven in Avalon, he took it. The X-men thought his head injury was the reason for all of this, which is why they tricked him to go to Muir Island, where Xavier and Moira worked on him and they were able to get him to transfer back to human form, but he ended up staying with Magneto anyway. He wasn't bad though and tried to do good within the group

 

[smallville fan]

Ok here's a dumb question: When did Iron Man join the Guardians of the Galaxy? Like from which issue/story-arc?