The Official Stupid Question Thread: Marvel Edition - Part 4

[Artistsean]

If, according to movie Thor, magic is just a science that Earth humans don't understand, does that mean that Dr. Strange would be another scientific mind like Reed Richards and Tony Stark? Just another field of study? Like how Tony is an engineer and Reed is more of an explorer and geneticist?

 

[Manic]

I think magic and science are only the same thing in the movie. In the comics, most scientists have a hard time wrapping their heads around magic because it's so drastically different. There was a Fantastic Four story where Dr. Strange gave Reed Richards a magic weapon that wouldn't work until Reed admitted he could never understand how it worked.

Also, in a way, Dr. Strange is another scientific mind because he's a neurosurgeon.

 

[Artistsean]

Thats what I mean, in the movies. If Dr. Strange was brought into the Marvel movies, given his own solo film, would he have to be more like a scientific expert in Magic (a science most humans don't understand)?

 

[Spuzz]

There was a Fantastic Four story where Dr. Strange gave Reed Richards a magic weapon that wouldn't work until Reed admitted he could never understand how it worked.

Huh! That sounds like an interesting read. Do you remember what issue it was?

 

[Scarecrow_King]

It's from the Mark Waid/'Ringo run. I don't know the issue, but you should read that entire run anyway. It's ****ing fantastic.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, that particular story was from Unthinkable, one of the best storyarcs of the Waid/Ringo run. So you know.....go get it.

 

[KevanG]

If, according to movie Thor, magic is just a science that Earth humans don't understand, does that mean that Dr. Strange would be another scientific mind like Reed Richards and Tony Stark? Just another field of study? Like how Tony is an engineer and Reed is more of an explorer and geneticist?

Well from how I understand magic in the general MU, it's seen as a form of energy manipulation and gaining access to energy of various types from different aspects of reality. It not only requires a drastically different way of thinking and acting but also an intuitive knowledge of how the universe works along with the ability to control and shape the energy without dealing with technology beyond certain artifacts imbued with that same energy or constructed to channel it.

Tony Stark and Reed Richards have an understanding of physics and it's effects with the normal energies of the universe but Strange has the training, ability and equipment necessary to understand and control the rest of the forces that aren't seen on a day to day basis and can also access energies outside of the normal spectrum of reality.

So basically, where Tony and Reed can just make stuff and let it be used by pretty much anyone, like the iron man suits or the unstable molecule uniforms, Strange is one of very few people able to contain, redirect or shut off sources of energy. If anything it's more like being a mutant. Like Thor is a god and has certain inbuilt differences than humanity, Strange is human but different enough that he can do it. It's kind of like DC has done (if it's still canon, I have no idea anymore) about magicians being a slightly different subset of humanity, homo magnus or something.

 

[KevanG]

And now for a question of my own: Am I the only one who thinks that Steve Dillons work is ugly and wrecks the comic it's in? I know for certain comics it works very well (Preacher) but every single other thing I've seen him do looks terrible (Wolverine: Origin).

 

[Shockdingo]

No. I was fine and used to his work in Punisher (Ennis' run), but after a long time, seeing it again in the End of the Max book, it was still okay, but not holding up as well for me as it used to. Seeing him on the Hulk issue recently really had things looking off and finally, in the current iteration of Thunderbolts, I was really distracted by it. I don't like to bag on art, but as soon as he was replaced, I liked things more. :/

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Thats what I mean, in the movies. If Dr. Strange was brought into the Marvel movies, given his own solo film, would he have to be more like a scientific expert in Magic (a science most humans don't understand)?

There was a low budget Dr. Strange movie made in the 70's.

 

[Spuzz]

Yeah it's hilarious too.

 

[Shockdingo]

I've got a weird one, has it ever been stated why Joss Whedon hates the Punisher?

 

[runawayboulder]

I didn't know that he did.

 

[Anubis]

Probably the same reason a lot of people hate the Punisher. They don't care for mass murderers as Super Heroes. I suspect he doesn't much care for Wolverine either. Hence the little lord Fauntleroy impression during his Astonishing run.

 

[Shockdingo]

Hmm, maybe that's it, Anubis. I've just heard people say that he hates him (and then if you look at his treatment of Frank in the Runaways arc) but I've never seen in detail why. Thanks for the replies though.

 

[Manic]

Yeah, I remember him saying (though in regard to his own characters) that murderers can't be heroes. That's why every time a protagonist on Buffy or Angel killed someone that wasn't a demon, it was kind of a big deal. Whedon apparently isn't a fan of protagonists who callously go around killing other human beings, and the Punisher crosses that line about a dozen times over. I don't even remember Wolverine killing anybody throughout his Astonishing run.

 

[Havok83]

Up until recently, Wolverine rarely killed in
Xmen books. That was for the most part left to his solo material

 

[Snikt8]

And now for a question of my own: Am I the only one who thinks that Steve Dillons work is ugly and wrecks the comic it's in? I know for certain comics it works very well (Preacher) but every single other thing I've seen him do looks terrible (Wolverine: Origin).

No, you are so right. Steve Dillon is just bad. I hating having to look at his art in Wolverine: Origin and can not pick up Thunderbolts because ALL of his characters look the same. Blah.

 

[Thwip!]

Thank god he's gone off it...I stuck to Tbolts as I knew who was around the corner....NOTO

 

[Anubis]

You two have terrible taste.

 

[Jordacar]

Are those "Season One" books any good?

 

[JewishHobbit]

Never liked Dillon's work myself, but then, I've not read much with it. He's similar to Gary Frank, but I grew to like Frank after I read more with it.

 

[javi1024]

Are those "Season One" books any good?

I guess it depends on your tastes. I've bought four of them and they're all light-hearted and "family friendly" is the best way I describe them. They try to capture the mood of the Silver Age as much as the story/character calls for and for the most part they're pretty fun. I enjoyed X-Men cuz I'm a huge fan. I'd already read the original issues and it was fun seeing how the story wove in, out, and around continuity. The others I read (Daredevil, Fantastic Four, and Avengers) I didn't have the same experience, probably because I know much less about the characters. They're fine reads, nothing like what DC is doing with their Earth One novels, but I'm sure you can find more "definitive" origin stories if you really wanted to get to know these characters.

 

[KevanG]

I have two questions about Daken: Is he dead now? I read somewhere he got addicted to some super drug and killed himself.

How do his tattoos stay on him? Every other person with a healing factor has been shown that tattoos are healed away and the ink rejected through the skin.

 

[runawayboulder]

I have two questions about Daken: Is he dead now? I read somewhere he got addicted to some super drug and killed himself.

How do his tattoos stay on him? Every other person with a healing factor has been shown that tattoos are healed away and the ink rejected through the skin.

He was addicted to Heat, a hallucinogen that had the side effect of shutting down his healing factor. He appeared to kill himself but returned a few months later in Uncanny X-Force culminating in a revenge plot against Wolverine. He's dead as of now, Wolverine drowned him in a shallow pool of water.

I can't explain the tattoos.