The Official Superman Thread - Part 2

[taskmaster]

Well, if I were trying to explain it, I go with Hal gets his ring pretty early on but spends most of his rookie years as a Green Lantern exploring his sector and getting to know the limits of his powers and going to Earth pretty rarely until Superman reveals himself to the public and the dawn of the Superheros happens.

But you're right, that is a little more difficult to get around. I'm in wait and see mode regarding this whole relaunch and I've never put too much emphasis on times and dates in comics. With characters who've been around this long it's not worth thinking about.

 

[X Knight]

finally got around to reading the Newsarama interview about Supergirl.

I find myself more interested in the Supergirl book than the regular Superman books.

I'm also excited that they've pretty much confirmed Kara will get some new/different powers from Superman. curious as to what they will be ( hoping for some kind of psionic power.....lol ).

 

[Drz]

Morrison's Superman will still represent the best of people and won't be brooding.

 

[Spade]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33386

You already had great success with "All-Star Superman" which was viewed as your "everything I want in a Superman comic" story. How is this different? Obviously, it plays into the bigger universe, but did that change how you approached things?

"All-Star" was about Superman at the end of his life, and it was very ordered and majestic. I really wanted to do an earlier Superman because I hadn't touched on that in "All-Star." I liked the idea of a much younger Superman who's a bit more brash and more wild. He's willing to take the law into his own hands. At the end of "All-Star," I had all these ideas to go back to those early days, and I took some of them and used them to turn it into this new version of "Action Comics."

The storytelling style is quite different. It's a lot faster because I think if you have a comic called "Action" it should have a lot of action in it. [Laughs] The idea is to keep Superman constantly moving in every single scene. You open the first page, and he starts running and doesn't stop until the end. That's a different style from "All-Star" which was a kind of static, 1950s style, Wayne Boring colossal Superman.

Some interesting comments in there about Lois, Jimmy, and Lex, too.

 

[Kurosawa]

But makes that whole Superman being the first hero thing a bold face lie.

Not to mention it makes Batman his superior yet AGAIN. Total ********.

 

[Cousin Itt]

With Morrison behind this I'll at least be checking out the first issue.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

First SUPERhero people. Geez.

 

[Drz]

Thanks Spade, alot of good stuff there!
Morrison's all out on Action Comics!
- Action focused since it's Action comics
- Superman's fightning for today's depression era victims just like in 30s he did for that era depression folk.
- On the supporting characters and Lex:

There must be a level at which you can't entirely look to Siegel and Shuster because Lex Luthor hadn't become the villain he becomes and other changes...

And we're playing a very different take on the Lex Luthor/Superman relationship. It's quite flipped on its head. Luthor is almost the good guy to a certain extent. All of the relationships are going to be different. Superman's relationship with Jimmy Olsen is completely different, but it makes sense in a way that I'm surprised nobody has thought of before now. The same goes for Lois Lane. Things won't be quite the same for Superman and Lois, and we'll see how truly different their lives will be. I think it'll add some new tension and a new dynamic to it. It won't be predictable at all.

- Also like with Batman, Morrison is more or less tying everything together:

Superman has been reintroduced so many times and that original story has been "played" by so many other people hitting its grace notes in a different way like John Byrne's redesign of Krypton. A lot of people will be taking cues from you here as the character moves forward. How have you thought of that, and are you placing elements in to be intentionally picked up by other creative teams at DC?

We're trying to tie in to everything. I'm telling stories set five years prior to the stories, say, George Perez is telling in his "Superman" book. So we're kind of doing different parts of Superman's life, but there's definitely things that will tie in. I'll be setting up things in my book that will peel off into other books. The plan, of course, is quite big and always changing. We're introducing a lot of new characters and villains for Superman -- new environments and new takes on some familiar stuff as well.

And Batman: Leviathan will have Morrison try a new story telling technique.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Except DC has explained how most of their new continuity will work.

- Batman is going to be mostly unchanged from what Grant Morrison set forth, who writes Batman as a 15 year veteran. Hell, the deaging that DC says they want to occur won't even happen here on account that Morrison pretty much already deaged Bruce and Dick by about 5 years on his run on the various Batman books he's worked on. Everything that has happened with Batman, remains in effect.

- Superman is now the first superhero in existence, meaning that Action Comics will probably be set waaaaaay more than 5 years in the past like Justice League is. Especially since Superman is in his Kryptonian armor costume as opposed to his t-shirt and jeans costume in Action Comics. Some Superman stories though such as the Death of Superman, remain in continuity of some sorts.

- Green Lantern, Aquaman, the Flash, Green Arrow, and a couple of others will carry on, unchanged like Batman.

- Mostly everything else from the origins of the Justice League, to Wonder Woman, to the Teen Titans appear to get getting overhauls the way Superman is getting.

That sounds pretty messy...

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Batman needs to have his history condensed too. I don't want him to have been around ten years longer than Superman, I'd say two at most.

 

[Dangerman]

finally got around to reading the Newsarama interview about Supergirl.

I find myself more interested in the Supergirl book than the regular Superman books.

I'm also excited that they've pretty much confirmed Kara will get some new/different powers from Superman. curious as to what they will be ( hoping for some kind of psionic power.....lol ).

I like that part as well because it shows the females are different than the males.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Batman needs to have his history condensed too. I don't want him to have been around ten years longer than Superman, I'd say two at most.

It kind of makes sense that Bruce was the first, when he started out there was no all mighty beings around to save the innocents, so him taking it apon himself to defeat crime has that added layer to it now.

 

[Mystirious]

A very interesting interview I am really looking forward to Morrison's Superman stories even more now. I think he's the perfect choice of writer to tell a modern version of the characters origin and his plans for his supporting cast have got me interested too especially Lex

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's a good thing Captain America's not a DC character. How would he ever get by without WWII flashbacks?

 

[Mystirious]

A Captain America who doesn't beat Nazi's senseless wouldn't be a real Captain America

 

[hippie_hunter]

That explains Batman. What about GL? He too is supposed to be a vet hero as well and all the years of GL can't have happened if the public didn't know he existed until like 5 years ago. It calls into question much of their continuity if nobody knew they existed until like 5 years ago.

Yeah, this whole damn timeline is becoming ******ed

 

[Mystirious]

I think its best not to worry about it

 

[Drz]

First Look: Batman #1, Justice League #1, Action Comics #1

It's so funny to see Jim Lee not only draw Batman vs. Killer Croc again but also bad mouthing Hal Jordan, Batman #1 kicks off with explosive action that tributes and cameos fan favourite villains from Circus of Strange to the Clown Prince of Crime, the Action Comics shows us the man of tomorrow is truly faster then a speeding bullet.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

As little as I like the "Kryptonian battle armor" costume in the other post-relaunch comics, I have to say, I'm even less fond of the Superbro t-shirt and jeans.

 

[Mystirious]

Superman's t shirt and jeans be getting no love

At least there aren't any seams Corp

 

[Motown Marvel]

im more okay with the t-shirt and jeans because, 1. it makes more sense than SUPERMAN wearing armor. and 2. most importantly, i know its only temporary.

 

[hippie_hunter]

im more okay with the t-shirt and jeans because, 1. it makes more sense than SUPERMAN wearing armor. and 2. most importantly, i know its only temporary.

This is how I feel pretty much.

 

[Karelia]

Jeans and t-shirt is cool, the little cape is what bothers me the most. I don't mind the armor as long as it looks good.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

im more okay with the t-shirt and jeans because, 1. it makes more sense than SUPERMAN wearing armor. and 2. most importantly, i know its only temporary.

If I couldn't be okay with it on Superboy, there's no way in hell I'd be okay with it on Superman. If there was one costume that need not be f***ed with, it was Superman's. Just leave him be.

 

[Spade]

He looks teenaged in Action Comics. It works for me.

Disappointed to see the beginning of Justice League is the middle of All-Star Batman, but with attack helicopters.