The Official Tom Welling Thread

[triplet]

As usual, DTS has wonderful screen caps up for Transference.
DTS - Transference

My personal favorite: "Precisely"

The problem I have with DTS screencaps is that they are usually very dark...

Is it just my monitor or does everyeone think they're dark?

 

[AgentPat]

Welling has the ability to look menacing, "feminine features" or not.

This scene comes to mind, as did the one opposite Rosenbaum in Lex's mansion.

Smiles don't always have to be in a "good" way.

 

[triplet]

This scene comes to mind, as did the one opposite Rosenbaum in Lex's mansion.

Smiles don't always have to be in a "good" way.

Actually, looking at this picture I'd be scared to have a nose like his... I'd be off to the plastic surgeon for a rhinoplasty.

Maybe JcDc can explain this j-shaped nose again... I'm not sure what he's talking about. My son's nose is like TW's, I just don't see it as feminine at all.

Also: In all the drawing and painting classes I've taken, they've never once talked about feminine vs. masculine features... The profs just wanted us to try and render the person as closely as we could.

But usually, we did nudes... not too many portraits, except for self-portraits.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

TW is on the cover of the latest issue of Dreamwatch. DTS excerpted a quote from his interview. Regarding fan mail:

"I do get a lot -- from guys and girls. We actually get more guys watching than we do girls, which the producers didn’t think was going to happen when we started the show. Our male audience is larger than they expected. I haven’t had anything too outrageous yet. I think the character that I play is warm and approachable and nice and kind. I think that maybe the fans that Clark attracts tend to be on the safe side, rather than, say, Lex Luthor. I think Michael Rosenbaum’s fan mail must be a little different (laughs)."

Pictures and more info here:
http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/smallville/

Gee a show about Superman attracting a large male audience? Who would;ve seen that one coming??

 

[JcDc]

Oh I dunno about that. Routh's got a heavier chin, yes, but he's also got rather thin features. Welling's got some real beefy jaw muscles, in the same vain as Pitt and Redford. Although I can understand why his nose and lips are perceived as a "weakness," as they may appear a tad feminine.

When it comes down to it, none of these guys have the classic Superman look. Reeve didn't necessarily either. To my mind, the "classic" look would either be a blue-eyed Dean Cain or a Bill Campbell (Rocketeer). And keep in mind I'm a red-blooded heterosexual male, but I think one of Welling's advantages is that his look gives him a rather angelic quality that'd work really well--something different for this day and age.

I'll admit that the latest Routh press photos are far better than the ones on his site, but to my mind, he still looks like a common fratboy or something. Very Keanu. They're going to have to do a hell of a makeover to convince me.

IMO, it's all in the eyes, and this is where Routh really misses the mark. I guess we'll see if the contacts work. Bottomline, there has to be something that looks different about Superman's face. I find something really alien about Welling and Caviezel. Not the type of folks you'd see walking down on the street everyday. Routh just looks average to me. My opinion of course.

I see where you are coming from, I guess the lines get blurred on what makes him Clark Kent as the average geeky farmboy and also the look of a man that has something different about him which translates to Superman. Caviezel for example, I could see where he'd have that rugged Superman face of determination. That's what I've never seen in Welling which may very well be be the difference of having a more masculine face than feminine one.

 

[JcDc]

Maybe you can see how it has that inward curve better from this angle

 

[The Sage]

Just rub it in now .

Yeah, Jim's combination of "scruffiness" with those freaky blue eyes made him the ideal choice for Superman imo. Just like Jim Lee's rendition, which is my favorite. Oh well.

Pretty good pics.

Those eyes of his are very captivating.

 

[MJZ]

Pretty good pics.

Yeah the last should look familiar. Scan some more!

 

[JcDc]

Pretty good pics.

Those eyes of his are very captivating.

I'll say

 

[The Sage]

Yeah the last should look familiar. Scan some more!

Hehe. I've got to get some good quality ones. I've got a real good one for you, from Superman issue 210.

 

[triplet]

Maybe you can see how it has that inward curve better from this angle

No, I still don't see it. Which part of the nose are you referring to?

The tip, bridge, or nostrils?

 

[darkzombiemutt]

Well one thing I was told when I started in comics was when drawing a woman, the softer lines the better, and use less lines then a guy. Now If I were to draw welling, I gaurentee the drawing would look very angular, he has to sharp of features to pass as a woman, big brow, sharp jawline, just a very structured face in general. Nobody ever said "draw a J shaped nose for women" Thats just silly. If you want a guy to look gruff and tough, yeah, give him a roman hook nose of something, but giving him a J shaped nose doesnt mean squat. Ok, he has big lips, so does the Hulk and Apocolypes. Nobody has ever said they looked like chics

 

[JcDc]

From the tip to the dorsum you can see where the curve starts.

 

[rumpuso]

Both men are undoubtedly handsome, but Superman to me must be someone you just can't stop staring at. For example, compare...

Which man are your eyes drawn to the most? For me, there is no comparison. Tom Welling has that certain look that just makes you smack yourself to prove you are not dreaming. Brandon Routh has an average handsome look, but he doesn't make you stop in mid walk and say "DAYUMM!" As for comparing features, if you want to label Tom Welling as having feminine features, go for it. Whatever you want to label them as, there is no denying that he is simply amazing to behold. And that body!...

And one more added bonus, he has an uncanny ability to transcend his beauty into menacing. For example:

and

 

[triplet]

From the tip to the dorsum you can see where the curve starts.

Oh, OK.... I see what you're talking about but I still don't see why that's feminine.

My art profs never talked about anything like that being typically feminine or masculine.

Although I never really did a lot of portraits, one of my profs did it professionally (he did pastel paintings and they reminded me of John Singer Sargent's work, he was excellent and did comissions for politicians and society folks) and he never even mentioned anything like that being masculine vs. feminine.

He was on a how different plane of existance, however. He would always play music during class and it would vary from Devo to Tchaikovsky to REM to Art of Noise. (I'm dating myself, I think...) He even made his own pastels.

If I had been an art major, I was a film major that made art - drawing/painting/art history/writing/theatre - an emphasis, I would have learned how to make my own paints and pastels. Which would have been cool, more control over the color when you make them yourself I'm thinking.

Anyway, I digress big time.

To restate: I don't see how that is feminine.

 

[JcDc]

Brandon Routh has an average handsome look, but he doesn't make you stop in mid walk and say "DAYUMM!"----


Which is not what you would want for Superman. For a model, yes. Btw Routh I'm sure can make an angry face like anyone else but we don't have screen caps from countless episodes to post

We have like 45235 pictures of Welling to choose from and a handful of Routh pics.

 

[The Sage]

Both men are undoubtedly handsome, but Superman to me must be someone you just can't stop staring at. For example, compare...

Which man are your eyes drawn to the most? For me, there is no comparison. Tom Welling has that certain look that just makes you smack yourself to prove you are not dreaming. Brandon Routh has an average handsome look, but he doesn't make you stop in mid walk and say "DAYUMM!" As for comparing features, if you want to label Tom Welling as having feminine features, go for it. Whatever you want to label them as, there is no denying that he is simply amazing to behold. And that body!...

And one more added bonus, he has an uncanny ability to transcend his beauty into menacing. For example:

and

Thing is, that's an old picture of Routh, and those are all recent pics of Welling. Like Reeve, Routh's look isn't exactly screaming Superman. Heck, even some of Welling's photos before SV wasn't screaming that either(you know what I'm saying?

Let's compare Routh to Welling in a few months in terms of looks. Right now, Welling is made to look like the character he is portraying. Routh is currently in the process of being made.

Hmm..."made". I make it sound like an Italian mafia or something.

 

[JcDc]

I actually see more of a Superman look in this pic

Than any of the Welling pics he posted

 

[The Sage]

Brandon Routh has an average handsome look, but he doesn't make you stop in mid walk and say "DAYUMM!"----


Which is not what you would want for Superman. For a model, yes. Btw Routh I'm sure can make an angry face like anyone else but we don't have screen caps from countless episodes to post

We have like 45235 pictures of Welling to choose from and a handful of Routh pics.

The consequences of an unknown, not that many pics to choose from. Must be what Reeve went through back in the 70's.

Look at him! He's skinny! He doesn't have teh body of Supaman!!! No no, get Burt Reynolds, he has teh body!!!(Not an invitation to get the pic JcDc )

Of course, after Reeve transformed, I'm sure everyone was like "Oh s***, DAAAMMMNNNN!"

 

[MJZ]

I actually see more of a Superman look in this pic

Than any of the Welling pics he posted

Looks Greek to me .

 

[JcDc]

Btw with a more average look, it heightens the ability to portray the seperate identities.

On SNL for example they spoke alot about what made Dan Akroyd and Will Ferrel great at playing different characters and looking like them, part of it was having a bit of an average edge that made the changes stand out so they could portray each character differently than someone with a real specific look.

 

[jas01724]

I drew Tom once, and none of the lines were harsh... but then it was more of a sketch than a real drawing...

 

[Serene]

Brandon Routh has an average handsome look, but he doesn't make you stop in mid walk and say "DAYUMM!"----


Which is not what you would want for Superman.

Phht. Sez you. I want Superman to take my breath away.. not unlike the reaction I had when I first saw Chris Reeve up on the big screen.

We have like 45235 pictures of Welling to choose from and a handful of Routh pics.

No comment.

 

[The Sage]

Btw with a more average look, it heightens the ability to portray the seperate identities.

On SNL for example they spoke alot about what made Dan Akroyd and Will Ferrel great at playing different characters and looking like them, part of it was having a bit of an average edge that made the changes stand out so they could portray each character differently than someone with a real specific look.

I don't like it. Go back and redo it.

 

[The Sage]

Looks Greek to me .

You can tell from the black and white photo?