The Official Tom Welling Thread

[AgentPat]

Forbidden? That's odd....probably because his invulnerable kryptonian flesh wouldn't be affected by the sun.

I heard that the producers wouldn't let him get his ears pierced either. Makes sense. Though they should have done something about his "farmer's tan" in that scene in Transference. The tan on his arms is quite blatant. They could have covered that up - assuming they had noticed it at the time.

 

[Ardrhielle]

James and you are right, Ardy (mind me calling you that?).

Hey kewl! A nickname! Works for me.

That's their current dillemna -- 1. run Smallville through or beyond its initial planned run (five) and risk collective public reaction to preview trailers (for Superman) of: "Huh? Why isn't it the guy from Smallville?" Or 2. Take Smallville off the air asap and run the risk of alienating certain Supes fans, and people losing "touch" with the character, or him dropping out of "public consciousness".

I honestly think they've taken this whole mess beyond the point where either option is gonna help their case in a positive manner. A great majority of people will ask, "Why isn't it the guy from Smallville?" , whether the series is off the air or on, and it won't matter when they've last seen it, at this point. (Think re-runs, ABC, syndication, DVD blah blah). I believe WB, so far, has underestimated the public's mental capacity. The public can tell the difference between a movie and a TV show. Really, they can. They just may not WANT to. There's a difference. A BIG difference. No amount of fancy footwork can divorce the public from what it's already decided it likes.

It's already too late to stifle a link to the show, if it were ever possible. Cancelling Smallville early isn't gonna change the association, but ending Smallville purely for the sake of a movie that TW isn't even in, might just make a lot of folks plain livid.

Of course, if it was known that TW was cast in the movie, and Smallville was no longer on tv for that reason, many fans would accept that and eagerly await the movie.

There are also those fans (and others?) whose line of thinking revolves around.... TW wanting the role, being offered the role, and something happening to squelch that deal... *If* the squelching was due to interference with the TV show and scheduling, wouldn't it be strange for WB to cancel Smallville, thus making scheduling NOT a problem, and still not have TW in the role.....(ah conjecture).

I for one, still hold on to the faint hope that miracles happen and last quarter football plays are a possibility. And 'tea for two' would also be a nice treat...

Humor me a bit....clapping to wake up Tinkerbell has always been a part of my therapy. :P

 

[rumpuso]

Hey kewl! A nickname! Works for me.



I honestly think they've taken this whole mess beyond the point where either option is gonna help their case in a positive manner. A great majority of people will ask, "Why isn't it the guy from Smallville?" , whether the series is off the air or on, and it won't matter when they've last seen it, at this point. (Think re-runs, ABC, syndication, DVD blah blah). I believe WB, so far, has underestimated the public's mental capacity. The public can tell the difference between a movie and a TV show. Really, they can. They just may not WANT to. There's a difference. A BIG difference. No amount of fancy footwork can divorce the public from what it's already decided it likes.

It's already too late to stifle a link to the show, if it were ever possible. Cancelling Smallville early isn't gonna change the association, but ending Smallville purely for the sake of a movie that TW isn't even in, might just make a lot of folks plain livid.

Of course, if it was known that TW was cast in the movie, and Smallville was no longer on tv for that reason, many fans would accept that and eagerly await the movie.

There are also those fans (and others?) whose line of thinking revolves around.... TW wanting the role, being offered the role, and something happening to squelch that deal... *If* the squelching was due to interference with the TV show and scheduling, wouldn't it be strange for WB to cancel Smallville, thus making scheduling NOT a problem, and still not have TW in the role.....(ah conjecture).

I for one, still hold on to the faint hope that miracles happen and last quarter football plays are a possibility. And 'tea for two' would also be a nice treat...

Humor me a bit....clapping to wake up Tinkerbell has always been a part of my therapy. :P

LOVED your post Ardy (going with the trend here)! Great job.

 

[AgentPat]

LOVED your post Ardy (going with the trend here)! Great job.

Agreed. Great post, Ardy!

And while I'm here...
I just wish I had a larger version of that pic in the bottom row, second from the right. The only thing missing is some primary colors and a spit curl. *sigh*

 

[Ardrhielle]

Wow Pat, thanks for posting all those great pics!
How many of those do you think we could convince Darkzombiemutt to work on? *hint*
I think it's still a worthy endeavor to do Welling manips. There must still be room around some strategically important water coolers...Lol.
Who knows? There are quantum theories that say reality tends to follow mass thought...
There I go again, talking about cats...

 

[AgentPat]

Wow Pat, thanks for posting all those great pics!

No sweat, though the praise should go to the webmaster of that particular site.

How many of those do you think we could convince Darkzombiemutt to work on? *hint*

Most of 'em, if they were only larger. *sniff*

I think it's still a worthy endeavor to do Welling manips.

Well, like I said to Mutt earlier today, it's not like Welling isn't already playing the character. Manips of him in full regalia will always be appreciated by SV fans. It also makes more sense to continue to do manips of Welling as Superman rather than former Supes hopefuls like Caviezel or Cavill. Just sayin'.

There must still be room around some strategically important water coolers...Lol.

There's ALWAYS room around those water coolers. If not, I'm sure some kind soul *ahem* will make sure the more important "stuffs" around these parts gets relayed to the appropriate individuals.

Who knows? There are quantum theories that say reality tends to follow mass thought...

Meh. Hollywood doesn't need a Unified Theory to explain the power of bad buzz. Though they ARE always looking for ways to stop it.

There I go again, talking about cats...

Keep talkin'. People are always listening, even if you don't necessarily see 'em...

 

[Gmanofsteel]

is there a superman maniper in the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

 

[Frantik]

Woohoo, Thanks A.Pat for posting those and thank you James also for sharing that. Okay all very nice especially second row far right and the one first row far right and third row last 3 and......oh hell the whole damn page and if Mutt is going to do some manips I would forever be grateful.

 

[triplet]

There are also those fans (and others?) whose line of thinking revolves around.... TW wanting the role, being offered the role, and something happening to squelch that deal... *If* the squelching was due to interference with the TV show and scheduling, wouldn't it be strange for WB to cancel Smallville, thus making scheduling NOT a problem, and still not have TW in the role.....(ah conjecture).

I for one, still hold on to the faint hope that miracles happen and last quarter football plays are a possibility. And 'tea for two' would also be a nice treat...

Humor me a bit....clapping to wake up Tinkerbell has always been a part of my therapy. :P

Great post and I love the whimsical ending...

 

[jas01724]

Most of 'em, if they were only larger. *sniff*

Ah, quit whinin', even I only have them at thumbnail size. I had to ENLARGE them to get them that big.

 

[triplet]

Ah, quit whinin', even I only have them at thumbnail size. I had to ENLARGE them to get them that big.

Why are they being so stingy with the images?

Those are some wonderful shots...

 

[jas01724]

Why are they being so stingy with the images?

They're not. They only EVER *officially* release a few images - all the others you see are ones that people have managed to get hold of via some sort of sneakery; those thumbnails included.

They have hundreds of unused/unreleased images stored away.

 

[triplet]

They're not. They only EVER *officially* release a few images - all the others you see are ones that people have managed to get hold of via some sort of sneakery; those thumbnails included.

They have hundreds of unused/unreleased images stored away.

Your contact can't get bigger versions? Damn. Too bad.

It must be the same guy who leaks character sides..

A guy I ran across on a forum over on another site sent me some character sides.

NOTE: character sides, for those who don't know, are just the pages for a particular part. Some of them even had the dialogue of other characters redacted... Spoilery if released, I suppose.

Despite the redactions, I think a lot of those are where the spoilers come from. I read some of them (he had Transference and Bound and Spell sides, among others) and they were almost word for word in spots to spoilers I'd read.

The sides that guy sent me, however, were bogus in one way or another to the eps that had already aired (Crusade, Gone and Devoted I think...) The scenes had either got severely rewritten so that they little resembled the sides he sent me or they got cut altogether. So, I doubt some of the unaired ep sides that he sent me are still accurate...

It was interesting to read them, however, and very educational. (Which was kinda my reason for wanting to read them in the first place...)

You ever get leaked pages? If so, I'd love to read some. (Being a wannabe screenwriter, it makes sense right?)

 

[The Sage]

Leaked pages of Smallville scripts?

 

[triplet]

Leaked pages of Smallville scripts?

Yeah. the guy just sent them to me... I was surprised but wanted more (even complete scripts of already aired eps) because I'm a spoiled rotten brat of a youngest child of six , then he said all he had were just those sides.

Dang it.

Nice of him to share, but I hesitate to share myself.. don't want to get him in trouble....

 

[jas01724]

I get most pictures myself, actually, including those. I've never had a contact sending me pictures or casting sides, or anything like that, they just send information.

I don't have any casting sides but I do know where to get them. They're not "leaked" as such, they're released to agencies so that actors who may potentially want to read for the part will know what the role entails.

 

[The Sage]

Yeah. the guy just sent them to me... I was surprised but wanted more (even complete scripts of already aired eps) because I'm a spoiled rotten brat of a youngest child of six , then he said all he had were just those sides.

Dang it.

Nice of him to share, but I hesitate to share myself.. don't want to get him in trouble....

Probably hard to find.

 

[triplet]

I get most pictures myself, actually, including those. I've never had a contact sending me pictures or casting sides, or anything like that, they just send information.

I don't have any casting sides but I do know where to get them. They're not "leaked" as such, they're released to agencies so that actors who may potentially want to read for the part will know what the role entails.

Oh, right. That makes sense.

That's why they were so heavily redacted... and they had been faxed most of them. That explains it.

Is that where everyone gets their spoilers then? Like I said, the few sides he sent me had text or dialogue that was disclosed in spoilers but may not have ended up in the episode... very early drafts, I suppose...

 

[jas01724]

Transcripts of already aired ones can be found here: http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/smallville/

Transcripts are breach of copyright - linking to a transcript site on a site that WB bigwigs read (i.e. this one) could get that site shut down.

 

[The Sage]

Transcripts are breach of copyright - linking to a transcript site on a site that WB bigwigs read (i.e. this one) could get that site shut down.

So why are you linking a transcript site to a site that WB bigwigs?

 

[triplet]

Transcripts of already aired ones can be found here: deleted

Yeah, I know but transcripts don't help you one bit if you are wanting to read the script. You need the real deal.

It's actually very enlightening to read a Smallville script, btw. I've bought a few online (there are companies in LA that sell them) and it's amazing how the writers described things compared to how they actually got filmed once aired.

That you can't get from a transcript.

OK, a little background (okay this is really verbose, but I get chatty when I'm tired and it's way past trip's bed time):

I had not even started watching Smallville until about mid-way second season. I thought it was a teeny bopper show, prolly little better than Beverly Hills 90210 or Dawson's Creek. But one of my triplet sisters loves the show, the other one can't stand it, and convinced me to at least give it a try seeing as how I used to really be into Superman as a kid.

So, I tried it. Well, I got hooked pretty quick but parts of the show didn't make sense since I didn't know the back stories. So this past birthday, I asked my two womb-mates for the DVD box sets of seasons 1 & 2. I had never seen the pilot or most of the first season because of where I came in....

So I get them and me and my 9 year old take the opportunity of the men being out of the house and watched the DVD's almost solid for about a week. (She's even sweeter on TW than I am... it's kinda cute, actually.)

I had no idea about some of the stuff and the Pilot episode totally rocked. I was now not only hooked, I was addicted.

Being a former film student (now a mom and high-tech worker), I wanted to read some scripts so I got the pilot and Metamorphosis online.

You think the Pilot was great on TV, it's even better reading it. It was great seeing the cut scenes that I think may have been filmed, and some I know that were, and comparing that to what did air. It was highly educational as a writer.

I know the show so well now, having seen some episodes 4 or more times - some even more than that, that reading how the writer originally imagined the story was very enlightening. You kinda get a better idea of their thought processes (which is why I think I'm a little less anti-Smallville writer than some around here).

Also, I think it helped my writing to see how they tightened stuff up and what they thought was important to keep and what wasn't. Sometimes cutting a line or two can make a big difference in how a scene plays. You don't get that from reading transcripts...

 

[jas01724]

So why are you linking a transcript site to a site that WB bigwigs?

Because I personally think transcript sites should be shut down.

 

[JackMercy]

The public can tell the difference between a movie and a TV show. Really, they can. They just may not WANT to. There's a difference. A BIG difference. No amount of fancy footwork can divorce the public from what it's already decided it likes.

It's already too late to stifle a link to the show, if it were ever possible. Cancelling Smallville early isn't gonna change the association, but ending Smallville purely for the sake of a movie that TW isn't even in, might just make a lot of folks plain livid.

I for one, still hold on to the faint hope that miracles happen and last quarter football plays are a possibility. And 'tea for two' would also be a nice treat...

You are speaking my language...

I heard a quote recently, which may make *some* people happy (and others not so). Some of you may recognize it...

"I hear they're going to reference Smallville a bit..."

Now, keen-eyed peeps may know where I saw this -- it is recent -- but what I will also say is that I have "heard" this, in one form or another, around the old water coolers recently...

What form may this take? Well, that's up to you to dec -er- debate...

 

[Lara]

Bah! I don't know I wanted Welling AS Superman..........however hmmmmm I'll have to think about this.......

 

[The Sage]

You are speaking my language...

I heard a quote recently, which may make *some* people happy (and others not so). Some of you may recognize it...

"I hear they're going to reference Smallville a bit..."

Now, keen-eyed peeps may know where I saw this -- it is recent -- but what I will also say is that I have "heard" this, in one form or another, around the old water coolers recently...

What form may this take? Well, that's up to you to dec -er- debate...

Yeah, Singer did say he didn't want to step on either Smallville or the Donner films.