The Official Tom Welling Thread

[KalKai]

I love Pat, she always has the answer ready for everthing and for everyone.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Well, if you're going to talk woulda-coulda-shoulda, SV shouldn't even of happened. It happened because of Batman Begins........Mark Paul Gosselaar pretty much had the role of Bruce Wayne, in what was going to be called Bruce Wayne, a SV approach of this man's life before Batman of course. Tim created that series as well...........

Everything ended up working out great in the end though......

actually that idea was canned because it was judged too be too dark and too much like Angel. That was back in like 1999-2000, I dont even think BB was given the go ahead then. I never heard anything about them getting close to casting it either. Where did you pick that up? Zak from Saved by the Bell as Bruce Wayne? No thanks

 

[avidreader]

I love Pat, she always has the answer ready for everthing and for everyone.

That's why sometimes I dont even worry about replying to things like that, 'cause I know Pat will come up with something ten times better than the way I could say it, but she would still say just what I would want to say.

 

[notalurkerany+]

Smallville is the best thing that ever happened to the Superman franchise and the superhero franchises in general. Nuff said.

 

[Milkman95]

actually that idea was canned because it was judged too be too dark and too much like Angel. That was back in like 1999-2000, I dont even think BB was given the go ahead then. I never heard anything about them getting close to casting it either. Where did you pick that up? Zak from Saved by the Bell as Bruce Wayne? No thanks

Well, an origin Batman film was being worked on at WB and they didn't want a TV series to overlap it. At that time it was Aronofsky and Miller's production, but that obviously fell through and went to Nolan.

They were very close to casting, and Tim McCanlies was far into it. Mark Paul could have been good, you never know. He ended up doing a good job in NYPD Blue and is now doing okay in the Geena Davis/Donald Sutherland successful TV show "Commander in Chief"............

 

[Milkman95]

Smallville is the best thing that ever happened to the Superman franchise and the superhero franchises in general. Nuff said.

Okay........

 

[Brainiac 8]

That's why sometimes I dont even worry about replying to things like that, 'cause I know Pat will come up with something ten times better than the way I could say it, but she would still say just what I would want to say.

Yea Pat, you ready to kick it up a notch!

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BAM!!!!

Sorry, Emeril moment.

 

[RakuMon]

actually that idea was canned because it was judged too be too dark and too much like Angel. That was back in like 1999-2000, I dont even think BB was given the go ahead then. I never heard anything about them getting close to casting it either. Where did you pick that up? Zak from Saved by the Bell as Bruce Wayne? No thanks

Personally, I was never too thrilled with the prospective Bruce Wayne series (as it was presented.) If they decided to follow Bruce around the world, THAT would've been an interesting show, but based on the pilot script, I don't think it could've worked... and I'm a HUGE Batman fan. In fact, I actually prefer the Batman as a superhero character moreso than Superman.

That being said, the premise of the Bruce Wayne series was flawed. My biggest problem was setting it in Gotham and having a teenaged Bruce Wayne essentially doing Batman stuff without the mantle of the Bat. See, unlike Superman, the Batman is ALL about iconography... Being a SYMBOL to strike fear into criminals (something that Nolan & Bale TOTALLY got.) Having Bruce run around Gotham, thwarting criminals, but WITHOUT the bat iconography is not as dramatic.

The biggest differences between Batman and Superman is that Batman needs the costume in order to be Batman. Something that has been debated ad infinitum as it pertains to the question of is Clark Superman in or our of the suit. I concede that Clark on Smallville is Superman without the colorful accoutrement.

 

[avidreader]

I concede that Clark on Smallville is Superman without the colorful accoutrement.

Wont get any argument from me on that one.

With regards to the Batman TV show, I think Gough & Millar said something similar on the Pilot commentary to what you said Raku. There just wasnt enough story to tell for a Bruce Wayne in High School.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

First off you guys need to stop being a kiss ass to Pat she said nothing but a repeat of what we always go through. Second off as for your male fans go most men that I know do not watch the show because they are so touched by Welling most men I know watch the show either for the women or because they are Superman fans. Key word SUPERMAN FANS not Welling fans meaning could this show have worked if another guy was in the role of Clark more then likely yes. Could this show have worked if you kept the same story line but made it not about SUPERMAN proably not. All I was saying is would the polls have been the same if we were watching someone different in the role be it Welling,Routh, or who ever. The same could be said would we say the same about Reeve if he didn't do the Superman movies. What I was asking and more or less stating is the polls turn out the way they do because we seen these people in the roles for years. So we know them as that but what if we haven't seen them at all then would it be different? Thats all I am asking.

 

[avidreader]

Tony, firstly why do you always get so defensive when people compliment Welling on his abilities and attributes. You do it all the time.

And secondly dont tell me who I can and who I cant compliment and suck ass to. If I feel compelled to say that Pat makes great posts then I will. Its my perogative.

 

[AgentPat]

Hey Tony, lay off the caffeine hon; you're gonna pop a spring.

Love is stronger than hate on this side of the fence, and when given the opportunity, folks can count on me to over-indulge the love, especially in this thread. Now, I've noticed that people here seem to enjoy talking more about the things they like verses the things they hate. If other users agree with me, that's cool. If they disagree with me, that's cool too. But telling people who they should or shouldn't agree with isn't cool, j'know? Just sayin'.

Spread some love today babe, whatdaya say?

 

[Serene]

First off you guys need to stop being a kiss ass to Pat she said nothing but a repeat of what we always go through.

And you need to take a serious step back and stop talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Second off as for your male fans go most men that I know do not watch the show because they are so touched by Welling most men I know watch the show either for the women or because they are Superman fans. Key word SUPERMAN FANS not Welling fans meaning could this show have worked if another guy was in the role of Clark more then likely yes.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that.
You also have no way of knowing what "most" men or "most" women watch the show for.

 

[notalurkerany+]

Okay........

I'm hearing your rational argument of why you think the contrary or a rolleye emoticon it's all you have to say?

But given that this is not the proper thread for this, I'll gladly take this to PM.

 

[notalurkerany+]

Key word SUPERMAN FANS not Welling fans meaning could this show have worked if another guy was in the role of Clark more then likely yes.

I'm both a Welling fan and a Superman fan. Not one before the other. I'll probably never understand why people see the two as something irreconcilable. I can also say that I'm a Reeve and Welling fan, ergo I'm a Superman fan and viceversa.

It's more than unlikely that this show could have worked if another guy was in the main role. If they had put another guy in the role and he doesn't make the people believe that he's really CK, in other words, "sell" the role, the show wouldn't have lasted too much.

 

[Milkman95]

I'm hearing your rational argument of why you think the contrary or a rolleye emoticon it's all you have to say?

But given that this is not the proper thread for this, I'll gladly take this to PM.

Well, I guess I should have said the first Blade film and the first X-Men film had a great impact. Then Spider-man more recently. Going back further, it was Batman in 1989. Before that, it was Superman.......

SV should be remembered as one of the best "superhero" TV series ever, but as far as having the biggest influence on Superman and other superhero franchises remains to be seen.

 

[Earthsea]

I love Pat, she always has the answer ready for everthing and for everyone.

This is for Pat to Test her Skills

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck
If a woodchuck could chuck wood?
He would chuck, he would, as much as he could,
And chuck as much as a woodchuck would
If a woodchuck could chuck wood.

Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.
Did Peter Piper pick a peck of pickled peppers?
If Peter Piper Picked a peck of pickled peppers,
Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked?

 

[notalurkerany+]

Well, I guess I should have said the first Blade film and the first X-Men film had a great impact. Then Spider-man more recently. Going back further, it was Batman in 1989. Before that, it was Superman.......

Exactly, I know that also the first X-Men film, Blade and of course Spiderman had a strong impact in reviving the superhero franchises in this decade, but Smallville also had a lot to do with that. It helped made the audiences aware that there are movies and TV shows that are treating the characters with respect and seriousness.

SV should be remembered as one of the best "superhero" TV series ever, but as far as having the biggest influence on Superman and other superhero franchises remains to be seen.

The influence of Smallville in the comics is pretty much blatant, and that is pretty logical after 5 years. But that wasn't my point. Of course the impact that this show has had over the Superman and superhero franchises in general will remain to be seen in a few years because the show isn't over yet

All I was saying is that Smallville played an important part in reviving the Superman and superhero franchise in this decade, and that is a fact

 

[Brainiac 8]

The influence of Smallville in the comics is pretty much blatant, and that is pretty logical after 5 years. But that wasn't my point. Of course the impact that this show has had over the Superman and superhero franchises in general will remain to be seen in a few years because the show isn't over yet

All I was saying is that Smallville played an important part in reviving the Superman and superhero franchise in this decade, and that is a fact

Aymen notalurkerany+, I agree. Smallville showed that they could do a Superhero TV show well, and treat a character with seriousness and respect. It did for tv, what those movies did for the cinema.

 

[musclesforsupes]

Im going to be honest with everyone on the hype, the last year I have been masking the fact that I actual am Tom Welling. I love the hype, and how exciting you all are about Smallville and the new season so far. My you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Love To You All
Tom Welling

 

[Brainiac 8]

Im going to be honest with everyone on the hype, the last year I have been masking the fact that I actual am Tom Welling. I love the hype, and how exciting you all are about Smallville and the new season so far. My you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Love To You All
Tom Welling

I imagine that Tom Welling has both better Spelling and Gramatical skills.

 

[musclesforsupes]

*wink*

 

[Brainiac 8]

Lol

 

[AgentPat]

...Smallville played an important part in reviving the Superman and superhero franchise in this decade, and that is a fact

This is very true. Not only did SV introduce Superman to a whole new generation of fans, it revitalized a fondness for the character among fans who's interest may have waned. It's no secret that Superman had become somewhat stale and even boring over the years. I think SV turned that trend around. The show's writing and Welling's unique approach to CK makes the character more human and real. It's a special kind of pathos that was non existent in previous versions of the mythos, and is arguably the most important element in making any god-like character identifiable to an audience...

Clark: Lara. ...is my biological mother's real name.
Martha: How did you know that?
Clark: When I was in the tank, I saw my earliest memory. She was putting me in the ship. Her only fear was that no one would love me.
Martha: I can't imagine the agony of putting my son in a lifeboat and sending him across the stars.
Clark: Because of Jor-El, I always thought that my biological parents were monsters, but she wasn't. I just can't believe I forgot about her.
Martha: You didn't, Clark. Your first word was Lara. Your father and I could never figure out what it meant. Now we know.
Clark: I wish she could've met you. To see what a great mom I have.
Martha: She knows, Clark. A mother's love never dies.​

 

[Brainiac 8]

Pat, you just quoted from one of my top five episodes. That scene just leaves you in a wow state after seeing it, that whole episode does. Made my wife cry, with perfect music in the backround made for one powerful scene.

One of the best between those two.