The Official Zack Snyder Thread

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Have you actually read it?

Did you actually read what I typed? I said I read the description in a magazine.

Reading about a horribly insecure Clark Kent was enough for me.

 

[Alonsovich]

I read it, and it was pretty bad. It makes me glad Returns was made by comparison.

Returns is the same thing. Singer was actually ordered to make a film with certain elements in it. It's esentially a poor man's Abrams script without supervillains.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Yes he did. His script even mentions the roles some characters will have in subsequent films.

Awesome, I have a Superman script by Abrams on my computer. Haven't gotten around to reading it, but it says first draft and it's dated July 26, 2002. Would that be the one?

I also have one called Superman Reborn from 1992 by Ilya Salkind, Mark Jones, and Cary Bates. And one called Superman: Man of Steel from 1998 by Alex Ford. You wouldn't happen to know anything about those, would you? I mean if they're any good?

 

[Alonsovich]

Did you actually read what I typed? I said I read the description in a magazine.

Reading about a horribly insecure Clark Kent was enough for me.

Did you actually care about what I typed too? I told you THAT is false. Clark was NEVER insecure in that film. Your magazine got it wrong.

 

[Alonsovich]

Awesome, I have a Superman script by Abrams on my computer. Haven't gotten around to reading it, but it says first draft and it's dated July 26, 2002. Would that be the one?

I also have one called Superman Reborn from 1992 by Ilya Salkind, Mark Jones, and Cary Bates. And one called Superman: Man of Steel from 1998 by Alex Ford. You wouldn't happen to know anything about those, would you? I mean if they're any good?

There are actually two Abrams drafts online (1st and 2nd) and both have those mentions... they're just radically different in their content. The Ford script contains the most hilarious Lex Luthor I've ever read on script, and quite an impressive final fight with Metallo... there are downsides to it like the Wonder Woman cameo and little screen time for Lois (he hangs out mostly in Smallville with Lana). I don't think I read the Cary Bates one still.

 

[Project862006]

Snyder is not directing 300 sequel apprently guy ritchie is but this was interesting lol

One theory is that Warner Bros. needs Snyder to bear down on Superman stat: Insiders say the closely-guarded script for Superman suffers from major third-act problems, and the studio faces a ticking clock on that franchise, legally speaking; if a Superman film isn’t in production by 2013, Warner Bros. loses the rights to the entire Superman franchise and would have to re-license it from its original creators.

http://www.**************.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=30190

 

[DorkyFresh]

do not care for this rumor....especially since they start shooting this summer, therefor they'll be in production LOOOONG before 2013. hell...long before 2012.

 

[Sky Captain]

There are actually two Abrams drafts online (1st and 2nd) and both have those mentions... they're just radically different in their content. The Ford script contains the most hilarious Lex Luthor I've ever read on script, and quite an impressive final fight with Metallo... there are downsides to it like the Wonder Woman cameo and little screen time for Lois (he hangs out mostly in Smallville with Lana). I don't think I read the Cary Bates one still.

How would one go about receiving that 2nd Abrams draft....?

 

[Lighthouse]

Once again, David Goyer is the problem.

 

[craigdbfan]

Nothing Snyder can't brush up with the help of other more "elaborate" screenwriters than Goyer.

Goyer isn't bad but most of his stories/scripts need a lot of cleaning and polishing.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Once again, David Goyer is the problem.

Yeah, this rumor is Goyer's fault! That bastard!

And if there are only problems with the third act it's already about on par with Iron Man.

 

[Lighthouse]

I'm starting to get nervous now, because I believe the Sucker Punch info. I've often ignored early reports, but I'm finding that they are often true. Tron Legacy is the most recent example, and I remember mixed reports before Superman Returns, Hulk, and downright terrible ones before XO: Wolverine.

Nervous, very, very dreadfully nervous I had been and am.

 

[Asgard]

Damn. You almost never get good results when you rush things.

 

[bgshw44]

is jonah nolan working on the script as well? i thought so but i never hear his name mentioned

 

[Scarlet Spider]

is jonah nolan working on the script as well? i thought so but i never hear his name mentioned

No, Jonah's involvement was only rumored but never confirmed.

Goyer is the sole writer (as of now, at least) as stated by the press release that was issued for Cavill's casting:

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110130005096/en/Henry-Cavill-Dual-Role-Clark-Kent-Superman

Charles Roven, Emma Thomas, Christopher Nolan and Deborah Snyder are the producers of the film. The screenplay is being written by David S. Goyer based on a story by Goyer and Nolan. Thomas Tull and Lloyd Phillips are serving as executive producers.

 

[Motown Marvel]

goyer is a solid idea man, and good for a first draft, but there needs to be more competent writers to flesh out the ideas when it comes to subsequent drafts.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Yeah, this rumor is Goyer's fault! That bastard!

And if there are only problems with the third act it's already about on par with Iron Man.

And Batman Begins/Dark Knight. But all three of those movies were great for the first 2/3rds before falling apart during their 3rd act. My concern with this Superman project is that the first 2/3rds won't be good enough to overcome the rumored 3rd act issues. If the movie is awesome for most of the running time, a mediocre climax can be forgiven. If it's average for most of the runtime, a mediocre climax can basically nuke the movie's quality/credibility. See Spider-Man 3 for a prominent example of this in the superhero genre.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I'd say BB/TDK are both debatable to whether they're bad but you're spot on with Iron Man. Both Iron Man films had mediocre scriptwriting.

 

[craigdbfan]

Begins IMO had a stronger third act than TDK did.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Begins IMO had a stronger third act than TDK did.

That's not saying much, haha.

 

[Ponco_87]

Iron man had a pretty weak third act, but that didn't hurt the movie overall because of RDJ's great performance

 

[BH/HHH]

Begins IMO had a stronger third act than TDK did.

I agree, I wouldnt even say Begins had any third act problems. The Dark Knights thirdact for me I would have cut out that boat plot was pointless in my opinion.

 

[Motown Marvel]

i would have replaced the boat plot with something much stronger....that whole idea was kinda dumb. but i would have taken out two-face's arc completely, and would have left it as a set up for him as a major role in the third film.

 

[rashad]

^Thankfully you didn't have the power to.

 

[EliteF50]

^Thankfully you didn't have the power to.

I disagree.