The Passion of the Christ. Most overrated POS movie ever?

[Liquid Snake]

Wow. I have to say, probably one of the worst movies I have seen in awhile. The movie by itself is so bad that I doubt most people would even understand any of it. I grew up in a muslim family so know alot about the stories but the movie does no job of even telling you who are all the people. the character development is nowhere to be seen other than some jesus nice guy flashbacks. The movie tries a cheap, lets see jesus get beaten for two hours just so the christian who actually believe in all the silly stories can cry for 2 hours.

I saw the Life of Brian yesterday and it was 10 times better than this crap, and probably truer to what probably happened.

 

[Master Chief]

I didn't like it either. I was expecting this really, really moving film experience and instead was given two hours of graphic torture. I believe in Jesus and all on a certain level, but I kinda just sat in the dark basement as the credits rolled wondering why everyone was so moved by it.

 

[Matt]

It was pretty much a 2 hour snuff film.

 

[BT18]

It was a snuff movie. Jesus is a myth but even myths don't need all the focus of them to be on the most disturbing, sick, gross, violent aspects of them, rather than say, the good things those myths advocated. Mel Gibson is a particularly awful cultural icon.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Sorry you didn't enjoy the movie, but I really loved it and found it to be a very moving piece of cinema. In the bible it was described that Jesus was beaten beyond the recognition of a man, and in my opinion, Mel Gibson stayed as true to that as he possibly could without getting an NC-17 rating.

I think what Mel wanted to show was how our sins are what crucified Jesus and that no one is exempt.

Just my opinion.

 

[Liquid Snake]

I didn't like it either. I was expecting this really, really moving film experience and instead was given two hours of graphic torture. I believe in Jesus and all on a certain level, but I kinda just sat in the dark basement as the credits rolled wondering why everyone was so moved by it.

Exactly, I think Jesus was a good man, I do think he didnt want his followers to turn into the currupt jews of the time with their religions and laws.

Ayway, there was nothing touching in the movie, i mean its as touching as showing a movie with your family being tortured for 2 hours, its touching in a cheap way which is the thing i didnt like about it. It screams oh look at me cry for me with their little tears. Again I have nothing agaisnt Jesus just his followers today bother me.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Sorry you didn't enjoy the movie, but I really loved it and found it to be a very moving piece of cinema. In the bible it was described that Jesus was beaten beyond the recognition of a man, and in my opinion, Mel Gibson stayed as true to that as he possibly could without getting an NC-17 rating.

I think what Mel wanted to show was how our sins are what crucified Jesus and that no one is exempt.

Just my opinion.

Exactly, I dont believe in for our sins I doubt even jesus literally meant he died for your sins.

 

[BT18]

Sorry you didn't enjoy the movie, but I really loved it and found it to be a very moving piece of cinema. In the bible it was described that Jesus was beaten beyond the recognition of a man, and in my opinion, Mel Gibson stayed as true to that as he possibly could without getting an NC-17 rating.

I think what Mel wanted to show was how our sins are what crucified Jesus and that no one is exempt.

Just my opinion.

He chose to focus on the msot violent, disturbing parts OF the part of the bible this particular myth happened in, but also an anti-semitic PASSION play he just had to adapt, written like a millenium after the bible was written. Mel Gibson is a *****ebag. His fathers a *****ebag. And this Bible they use to justify their bull$hit is a work of fiction.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Yeah, this tired, lame-ass, regurgitated bull**** where people ***** and moan about a film being precisely what it was meant to be and what it was promoted as being long before the release never gets old.

It wasn't anti-semetic and to call it a snuff is idiotic, I don't even need to bother explaining why since it already has been explained countless times so clearly that anyone that isn't an ignorant moron could understand it.

He chose to focus on the most violent portion for a reason(and yeah, showing up and calling it a myth really validates your opinion), if you didn't want to see that, you're an idiot for watching to begin with, plain and simple.

It's like someone telling you "don't touch that, it's hot" and you putting your hand directly on it then complaining when you get burnt, this is stupid, as is the circular, brainless bashing by those that hate this film, that only serve to unintentionally confirm what a great movie it was.

 

[Darth Elektra]

I liked the film. IMO Mel did a wonderful job.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

He chose to focus on the msot violent, disturbing parts OF the part of the bible this particular myth happened in, but also an anti-semitic PASSION play he just had to adapt, written like a millenium after the bible was written. Mel Gibson is a *****ebag. His fathers a *****ebag. And this Bible they use to justify their bull$hit is a work of fiction.

Well, who really crucified Jesus? He wasn't pointing to any one particular race or group of people. He was pointing to all of us and it did show the deeds of Jesus.

Granted it didn't show all of them, however, there was enough in there to show that he was a man who knew no sin and took our sins upon himself to the cross.

Again these are my beliefs and my opinion on what Mel was alluding to.

 

[BT18]

Well, who really crucified Jesus? He wasn't pointing to any one particular race of group of people. He was pointing to all of us and it did show the deeds of Jesus.

Granted it didn't show all of them, however, there was enough in there to show that he was a man who knew no sin and took our sins upon himself to the cross.

Again these are my beliefs and my opinion on what Mel was alluding to.

Jesus didn't exist. He's made the phuck up, 4 decades after he was (most commonly) said to have existed, which is when the first stories about him were first written, peiced together from various parts of other earlier diety stories and hero archetypes (dionysus etc). And the ruff draft of the myth didn't even have the events taking place on the plane of Earth. The killing, the resurection, etc took place in the Heavens. Why do you think Christians can go on forever about the life of Jesus, but can never seem to scratch the surface about discussion about the events of how the word of Jesus was first spread? Wouldn't that be a compelling, important, peice of religiosity to have in your repetoire?

BTW, just so you think I'm not some person with a bug up my butt against Christians, it isn't that. All religion is primitive and unncessary. And Islam is the greatest threat to civilization currently known to man.

And religious moderates aren't any less insane than fundamentalists. Just less distructive. Fundamentalists are actually way more intellectually honest.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Jesus didn't exist. He's made the phuck up, 4 decades after he was (most commonly) said to have existed, which is when the first stories about him were first written, peiced together from various parts of other earlier diety stories and hero archetypes (dionysus etc). And the ruff draft of the myth didn't even have the events taking place on the plane of Earth. The killing, the resurection, etc. Why do you think Christians can go on forever about the life of Jesus, but can never seem to scratch the surface about discussion about the events of how the word of Jesus was first spread? Wouldn't that be a compelling, important, peice of religiosity to have in your repetoir?

Actually it has been historically proven that Jesus did exist. I remember seeing it on a National Geographic story.

 

[Darth Elektra]

Yes,its a proven fact that there was a man named Jesus Christ and he was crucified. If you want to argue with christians argue the evolution case,its much stronger.

 

[HUMAN]

If you didn't want to see Jesus' death and resurrection then you shouldn't have seen The PASSION of The Christ. Get an education, crack a dictionary.

The reason Mel told this particular story is because it hasn't been told to it's full potential in previous Jesus movies. Plus the sacrifice is what Mel found so inspiring about Jesus' character.

And lets not bring up the historical Jesus. If you believe Jesus is a myth then you believe you can walk away from jumping off a 500 ft. cliff. Too much has been written about the Man to have all been "made up." Caiaphas' grave site has been found, numerous writings have been shown to the world. If you want to argue history, go to the community. If you want to argue film, then stay right where you are. Just try to stay away from the offensive, filter blocking, perverse language.

 

[Rob H]

Call me crazy but I didn't find this movie to be overly graphic at all.

 

[BT18]

Actually it has been historically proven that Jesus did exist. I remember seeing it on a National Geographic story.

Maybe we should adopt such airtight barriers of truth as claiming you saw proof on a "National Geographic Story" for all conflicts, legal and otherwise.

I saw on a National Geographic Story that there's proof you ate lead paint chips for a solid 3 years in elementary school.

Of course utterly similar such bull$hit what religion always comes down to. It's a conversation stopper to counter science, history, and honesty in order to justify deviations and grievences to all 3.

 

[HUMAN]

I think our friend, BT18, is an avid atheist ladies and gents. Congrats on making your beliefs look foolish.

 

[BT18]

Yes,its a proven fact that there was a man named Jesus Christ and he was crucified. If you want to argue with christians argue the evolution case,its much stronger.

If there was anything resembling a hint of a shred of a reflection of a "proven fact" that Jesus existed, Christians would be waving it in our faces and broadcast on their cable networks every day of every week of every year. But it doesn't exist. Again, the vast majority of Christians who can bore you to tears with the endless minutiae of the life of this myth that is Jesus Christ, are brought to a screeching hault when asked to discuss the events of how the word of Jesus was first spread throughout the world in the LATE first century. And the LATE is important because that is when the first documented word of him came to be, which is many decades after the 30-odd year old died for those math whizzes.

 

[BT18]

I think our friend, BT18, is an avid atheist ladies and gents. Congrats on making your beliefs look foolish.

Well, you THINK wrong. I'm not an atheist. I just require in peoples everyday discourse that their convictions really scale with any and all available evidence, and pretty much all religion is incompatible with that conviction, quite often contradicting the actual evidence with disastrous results.

 

[블라스]

It's not that bad.
Music, acting, cinematography = all great, plus the fact that they used original languages was too cool, BUT...

It was too violent, and it really sucked (to me) to see Jesus go through all of that.

 

[HUMAN]

There is a Gospel which dates to when Jesus was alive and is rumored to be the writings of Jesus Himself. The reason why Jesus' story was written down was because Rome was attacking the very land it came from and was feeding Jesus' followers to lions. So, instead of letting all this HISTORY extinguish, it was gathered and written down. If you look at the Gospels they're written more like an historical document rather than a piece of literature, like say Homer's Iliad.

 

[jaydawg]

I dunno man, the most overrated POS I've ever seen is the Notebook.

 

[HUMAN]

Well, you THINK wrong. I'm not an atheist. I just require in peoples everyday discourse that their convictions really scale with any and all available evidence, and pretty much all religion is incompatible with that conviction, quite often contradicting the actual evidence with disastrous results.

So you say religion is incompatible with history yet you say you're not an atheist. Are you some kind of agnostic who thinks God just rolled the cosmic dice and left it at that? Or are you using the word "religion" in a very vague sense, as in Baptist, Catholic, Mormon? Help me understand.

The Singularity doesn't contradict creation, it enhances it. The Cambrian Explosion doesn't contradict creation, it enhances it. Irreducible Complexity doesn't contradict creation, it enhances it. Don't argue scientific evidence in a film forum, that's called spam.

 

[The Kid]

Stay on topic.

I saw the movie against my will back when it was out. I liked the way it was shot. It's a beautiful movie. I didn't like how it felt like we missed half the movie right away. Why half-ass the story of Jesus? This would have been great if they followed it all from the beginning and told of his whole life instead of flashbacks.

In hindsight it's a movie about some guy getting tortured that exploits our innate feeling of sympathy/empathy (whatever) for other humans in pain and that's basically all it is I think.

But you have to admit the performances were awesome and the way it was shot and music is classy stuff.

It's overrated but not by much.

What say you.