The Piracy Threat...?

[hammy]

Libraries pay for the books to be in the library though....You have people downloading a bunch of songs, putting it onto a CD and burning it for all their friends at no cost to them or the people they are giving the CD's too....but I see your point on the income issue though.

They pay one time. Hundreds of people, even thousands, can get the benefit of reading it for free. It basically amounts to the same thing.

 

[BlackLantern]

So some dumb ass who's not tech savvy enough to know how to hide his IP address gets caught when he's stupid enough to fine a fake torrent that the MPAA has loaded onto a torrent site to bait people. They only catch the idiots.

I'm sure its only a matter of time before someone who is considered "tech savvy" gets pinched or gets ratted out by someone he knows....thats usually how an enterprise gets shut down...someone low level gets caught and rats everyone else out....no honor among thieves, so to speak

 

[hammy]

Reading has educational benefit.....sitting in your basement listening to Eminem while you play Halo has NO benefit...educational or otherwise...

That has nothing whatsover to do with the argument.

 

[bell110]

Let's go after radio stations while we're at it, after all they're providing new and hip music for free!

Back when I was a kid (before the internet) we'd wait for a good song to come on the radio and then we'd *gasp* push the record button on the stereo! I guess the RIAA should have fined me.

It funny because the RIAA tried to get laws passed when recordable tapes were put on the market. It failed though.

 

[jaguarr]

That has nothing whatsover to do with the argument.

It's also highly subjective.

jag

 

[BlackLantern]

That has nothing whatsover to do with the argument.

It was a point I was just throwing out there. I understand your point though....I understand the only reason the NETA law got passed was because of the massive MPAA/RIAA lobby in Washington....is it fair, not at all....but it is the law untill its either changed or repealed....

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Quick, someone say "Halo helps develop good eye/hand coordination!"

 

[PemLam]

That has nothing whatsover to do with the argument.

Hand eye coordination....all the while deaing with the distraction of horribly wretched screeching coming from Eminem's mouth. t:

 

[Kritish]

Radio stations pay labels for distribution rights.....Kritish, please read other posts before you decide to be a smartass....Copyright infringment did not become a criminal offense untill 1997 when the NETA law was passed....

Your average music pirate will purchase an album and put it on the internet for people who are interested. Asides from the legality it sounds similar to me.

The law is irrelevant in this discussion, this is a debate on weather it should be against the law.

 

[knowsbleed]

Reading has educational benefit.....sitting in your basement listening to Eminem while you play Halo has NO benefit...educational or otherwise...

Lots of libraries usually let you borrow CDs as well.

 

[PemLam]

Quick, someone say "Halo helps develop good eye/hand coordination!"

As you wish. t:

 

[jaguarr]

Halo helps develop good eye/hand coordination!

It also encourages team work, critical thinking skills and keeps kids off the streets where they could be getting into trouble. However, it also induces laziness and saps creativity, so...there ya go.

jag

 

[bell110]

The more and more and more people download, the less albums will be sold. It literally has nothing to do with their talent. It's not like the people that download for free are only downloading crappy bands that they just didn't want to spend money on, there downloading everything.

Thats not true. People still do buy albums that they've downloaded that they like. I have.

Seriously, if nobody cracks down on this at all.........it will just get bigger and bigger and bigger to were the industry will take such a hit that even you naysayers will notice it and not claim there lying about their sales.

Seriously, would that be a bad thing? Think of it, a world without Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake.

It still sucks that it didn't last long though. As I said before, for underground and unsigned bands, getting your music out for no fee is a good thing.........to get noticed! After that you want to make good deals with a company to just go up from there. I just think it will suck when it gets so bad that musicians who just want to play for a living most likely won't be able to because even after making a record deal which is keeping their dream alive, they can still flop simply because of free downloads not because of their talent neccesarily.

So it was the downloaders that kept that guy from making it big? Or, maybe nobody wanted to see them live.

Music will always be around, RIAA or not, just as long as people want to play music.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Ha, I'm good.

 

[BlackLantern]

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/17-18red.htm

Here is the actual NETA law if anyone cares to read it......I would hope you all do take the time to read it.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Halo helps develop good eye/hand coordination!

It also encourages team work, critical thinking skills and keeps kids off the streets where they could be getting into trouble. However, it also induces laziness and saps creativity, so...there ya go.

jag

Hahaha, yes, the kids become too obese and immobile to possibly run with any gangs.

 

[bell110]

Yeah, but in most cases the radio only plays the hit singles that they have to pay to get anyways. Online you can take for free "every" song from that newly released album, not just the 1 or 2 singles it may have.

The radio basically is good for the music industry/bands because they play those 1 or 2 singles from new albums to see if the fans like it. If they like it they can go buy the album to hear the rest.

What if the album suck? $15 for two good songs? Another reason downloades are good for the consumer.

 

[BlackLantern]

My mom used to boot me out of the house every saturday and sunday for most of the day....I turned out all right....

 

[PhotoJones]

Halo helps develop good eye/hand coordination!

It also encourages team work, critical thinking skills and keeps kids off the streets where they could be getting into trouble. However, it also induces laziness and saps creativity, so...there ya go.

jag

It also discourages real world social interactions and exercise.

 

[jaguarr]

My mom used to boot me out of the house every saturday and sunday for most of the day....I turned out all right....

My brother and I spent every waking moment outside that we possible could as kids and loved it. Kids today are different, and parents often use the X-Box as a babysitter. It's not a good thing but it does happen in pretty large numbers.

jag

 

[Kritish]

It was a point I was just throwing out there. I understand your point though....I understand the only reason the NETA law got passed was because of the massive MPAA/RIAA lobby in Washington....is it fair, not at all....but it is the law untill its either changed or repealed....

So what? Just because some thing's the law doesn't mean that it's right and should be followed. It's illegal to be anything but a Muslim in Iran, does that mean you should "follow the law" and convert to Islam and report all non-Muslims? I didn't think so.

 

[jaguarr]

It also discourages real world social interactions and excercise.

Absolutely true.

jag

 

[Figs]

Thats not true. People still do buy albums that they've downloaded that they like. I have.



Seriously, would that be a bad thing? Think of it, a world without Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake.




So it was the downloaders that kept that guy from making it big? Or, maybe nobody wanted to see them live.

Music will always be around, RIAA or not, just as long as people want to play music.

You and your friends may still buy the albums but to say it's not true because of you and whoever YOU know is crap. When saying that your trying to speak for the majority, which no one knows.

Yes, it would be a bad thing. Big record labels don't just produce crappy pop like Spears or Timberlake. I'm talking about "all" meaning rock, metal, hip hop, everything. Without those record labels bands couldn't go on the insane tours they do now which makes them most of their money. Without record labels they would be stuck playing small ass weak gigs at bars and would most likely still need a "real" type of ****ty job.

As for keeping a band from making it big. If the record sales suck, there wouldn't be a tour for the people to decide if they want to go to it or not.

 

[PemLam]

You and your friends may still buy the albums but to say it's not true because of you and whoever YOU know is crap. When saying that your trying to speak for the majority, which no one knows.

Yes, it would be a bad thing. Big record labels don't just produce crappy pop like Spears or Timberlake. I'm talking about "all" meaning rock, metal, hip hop, everything. Without those record labels bands couldn't go on the insane tours they do now which makes them most of their money. Without record labels they would be stuck playing small ass weak gigs at bars and would most likely still need a "real" type of ****ty job.

As for keeping a band from making it big. If the record sales suck, there won't be no tour for the people to decide if they want to go or not.

Those are typically the best kind because you don't get the watered down, pop-riddled garbage you hear on the radio 24 hours a day.

 

[Kritish]

It also discourages real world social interactions and exercise.

What does that have to do with this conversation?