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The positive things that could come out of a Trump presidency

Either way the US was ****ed.

Hillary is a conniving career politician hungry for power. In fact I'd say she is more evil than Trump. There is something really unsettling about her. She'd smile in your face and stab you in the back.

Trump is just like a "dudebro". I don't think he is evil in the way Hillary is... he just has no filter and is beyond ignorant. But with him at least you know where you stand.

Neither of these two people are fit to run a country. But for me, Trump is the lesser of two evils.

So what you will about Hillary, but we now have a President-Elect who plans on saying f*** the environment and thinks climate change is a hoax made up by the Chinese. I certainly hope technology can figure a way to un-f*** the planet after these next several years.
 
Oh yea. Like I said, both options were bad. But at least with Trump you know where you stand. Hillary? She's a snake. The fact that she stayed with Bill all these years after everything he's done says a lot about her character.
 
Really, because looking at how Trump's cabinet is setting up, I could do with a whole lot less obvious evil.
 
Oh yea. Like I said, both options were bad. But at least with Trump you know where you stand. Hillary? She's a snake. The fact that she stayed with Bill all these years after everything he's done says a lot about her character.

We've survived having "snakes" in office before though.

We're in uncharted territory now with an ill-tempered, vindictive, thin-skinned manchild with his finger on the nuke button. And that's just the tip of the iceberg with all the things wrong with him being President. I seriously struggle to understand the false equivalency people continue to insist on making. Also, you really don't know where you stand with Trump. He hasn't shown any consistent ideology, he's flip flopped on everything including Hillary Clinton (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q76rxpKm3m4)

Unless you want to take it the other way and say with the Donald being such a "straight shooter", then Hillary is genuinely a terrific person. :cwink:

As I've said, the upside of Hillary losing is it will force the Democratic Party and media to self-examine and try to do better. It shakes people out of apathy and complacency, I think. But in no way will I ever believe she was the greater of two evils here. No way.
 
My 2 cents. He'll work with Putin to destroy ISIS, and because I've seen first hand the horror ISIS brings to people then Trump has my support.

ISIS is already losing. They have been losing large amounts of territory and many of their fighters for well over a year now.

Senior Isis leaders have been forced to accept that they will lose their caliphate in Syria and Iraq and see terrorist attacks in the West as the way forward for jihad, according to foreign fighters who are abandoning the Islamist group as it faces an onslaught in Mosul and an impending attack on Raqqa.

The killings of some of their best commanders, divisions and fear of treachery have contributed to Isis steadily losing territory, according to two Belgian Muslims who recently deserted and fled to Turkey. At the same time, destruction of munitions has led to the group depending more and more on light weapons, suicide bomb cars and IEDs (improvised explosive devices) to try and stem the offensives being launched against it.
“When Daesh [Isis] went into Iraq and took the armour and Humvees from the Iraqi army, it was a big success because it allowed them to move forward very fast. But once the bombing started by the Americans a lot of these armoured cars and Humvees just got smashed; moving around in them just made you a big target,” said Rachid, 27, who used to work as a mechanic in Belgium before his journey to Syria.

“Now the Daesh leaders talk about ribat, which means defending territory, not going forward, so it is a different kind of warfare. Daesh have [surface-to-air] missiles, sure. They have even built their own but how many planes have they brought down? Very few, it is not so easy with modern planes,” he continued. “They still have very good bombmakers and suicide cars are very good because they are effective and really make the enemy afraid. But when the Americans and the Russians started their air strikes these cars were getting blown up before they got to the enemy, so not so effective now and also numbers of people volunteering to be suicide bombers has fallen.
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world...europe’/ar-AAjdvl8?li=AAabC8j&ocid=spartanntp

Putin has been using Russian forces primarily to do the dirty work for the Syrian and Turkish regimes. Russian forces have bombed anti-Assad groups and Kurdish forces more than ISIS. The Kurdish fighters are one of the main ground forces actually taking on ISIS so if anything Russia killing them has helped ISIS rather than hurt them.

It was always going to be hard for ISIS to hold all the territory they captured. The reason they declared themselves a caliphate and called for people to join them is because they needed the foreign fighters to hold all the land they grabbed.

As soon as forces in the region regrouped, organised and coordinated ISIS was always going to be pegged back if not wiped out.

What will happen is ISIS will lose control but still launch suicide and guerrilla attacks regularly. They will still pump out propaganda and inspire homegrown terrorist to commit acts in their name. In the long run the mission is still the same and that is to win the ideological war and offer a better alternative. When that happens we will finally see an end to this extremists terrorism.
 
As I've said, the upside of Hillary losing is it will force the Democratic Party and media to self-examine and try to do better. It shakes people out of apathy and complacency, I think.
The upside to Hillary losing is a victory for the cultural war being waged. Trump winning exposes the passionate ignoramus on all sides of the aisle, especially the ones liberals have been harboring. It would be continued apathy and complacency to a growing issue that bubbled and boiled over under Obama's tenure had she won. The Trump supporters protest to a loss and it would be simple to dismiss them all with every buzzword we can think of.

The Democratic Party and the media have deluded people's critical thinking via emotional triggers and a collective hivemind. Rising hate crimes and political prejudices is a symptom, time to seek out the solution without falling into the same predisposed traps.
 
At least there's never gonna be a Ban on eastern european mail order brides under Trump rule.
 
Honestly, there isn't a single positive thing about this. It is terrifying and there's nothing to mitigate it.

Half the country's voters elected a man who is not only despicable, but also not in any way qualified to be president. Even if he wasn't a racist demagogue, his lack of qualification would give me serious pause.

Quite literally nothing worse could happen than this.

And he's not qualified based on what ?
He's an American citizen and over 35 years old. He ran a better campaign than Killery Rotten Clinton and beat fair and square. He's no more qualified than a 2 year senator from Chicago who voted present for most of his career.
 
And he's not qualified based on what ?
He's an American citizen and over 35 years old. He ran a better campaign than Killery Rotten Clinton and beat fair and square. He's no more qualified than a 2 year senator from Chicago who voted present for most of his career.

He's a hateful far right bigot masquerading around as a Republican electing fascists into his white house and battling anyone with disserting opinions. Yeah, there might be some on here who look up more to the Red Skull's belief of white supremacism or just don't care - but most prefer Captain America's way of thinking power to all people and being against bullying.
 
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Does every one of your political allegories come from a superhero movie?
 
Does every one of your political allegories come from a superhero movie?

Okay. Some side with Hitler or rather Putin, others don't. Just tend more to want to keep things more light hearted more than not, which Red Skull paints a much easier image to digest than naming those two.
 
He's a hateful far right bigot masquerading around as a Republican electing fascists into his white house and battling anyone with disserting opinions. Yeah, there might be some on here who look up more to the Red Skull's belief of white supremacism or just don't care - but most prefer Captain America's way of thinking power to all people and being against bullying.

Oh instead of the left wing look idealog in the White House that u probably voted for who surrounded himself with nothing but far left
Progressives who want to fundamentally change our country according to their vision which we didn't want.
 
Oh instead of the left wing look idealog in the White House that u probably voted for who surrounded himself with nothing but far left
Progressives who want to fundamentally change our country according to their vision which we didn't want.

Nice try, easy answers feel good right? I'm an independent, prior ANARCHIST. I'm against Trump for moral reasons, not political - I despise Trump for the same reason I despise Putin and Trump's done absolutely nothing to ward off that comparison outside of not having the same power Putin has yet, thank God.

My Mom is a Democrat, Dad a Republican. Both hate Trump and hated the crazies from the last election. So I know a lot of Republicans, I know no one who sees Trump as a good guy either "despicable" like my Dad and others view him or "the lesser of two evils" like I've heard others call him - but never 'good.' Trump is a stain on the Republican party, and on the right, that even saying Trump is on the right or a Republican feels very offensive to me because of the connotations of that. You can say "far right" but all that is is 'newspeak' as George Orwell called it - simplifying words to make some sleep easier at night. Trump nor his party represent true Republicans, the Republicans I know aren't racist, sexist, homophobic, nor anti-semetic yet that is what comprises Trump's cabinet. If I was a conspiracy theoriest, I'd actually say the Democrats sent him in as a Trojan horse meant to ruin the party name. As said, it's a stain on the party to those that know Republicans are NOT synonymous with bigotry like Trump, and cabinet, are making it out to be.

ADDING: Trump has just disavowed the alt-right calling them the most despicable people on the planet, now just hopefully his actions show this as well now.
 
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And he's not qualified based on what ?
He's an American citizen and over 35 years old. He ran a better campaign than Killery Rotten Clinton and beat fair and square. He's no more qualified than a 2 year senator from Chicago who voted present for most of his career.

I can tell this is a rhetorical question and that you are clearly an extremist; but for the record - for any sane person reading this - he is unqualified because he is a man who has the temperament of a spoiled child. This is the man who while running for president started a Twitter feud with an ex-beauty queen at 3:00 AM.

This is a man who never served in the military and dodged the draft, yet mocks war heroes, the parents of a dead soldier and claims to "know more than the generals".

Trump has never held public office. You slight Obama for having only been a US senator for two years, yet Trump has never had a government job. He has never shown an inkling to do anything for anyone else prior to this vanity campaign. Trump's first job he had to apply for was President of the United States.

His campaign has been an utter disaster. He went through two managers, with one having to be let go due to ties to an East European dictator. His own campaign had to take his Twitter account away from him because he wouldn't stop Tweeting ridiculous things. The did apparently conspire with agents in the FBI to influence the election, if you want to consider that to be a positive trait in a political campaign.

You couldn't find a man less qualified. I wouldn't trust Trump with a bowl of change, much less my kids, and you went and gave him the nuclear codes.
 
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Oh instead of the left wing look idealog in the White House that u probably voted for who surrounded himself with nothing but far left
Progressives who want to fundamentally change our country according to their vision which we didn't want.

Make American White Again 2016.
 
Oh instead of the left wing look idealog in the White House that u probably voted for who surrounded himself with nothing but far left
Progressives who want to fundamentally change our country according to their vision which we didn't want.

It's our country as much as it is yours.
 

I wouldn't call it rigged, I'd call it arrogance Brexit 2.0. The same voting story around Brexit basically happened here. Different kind of vote, same kind of reflection on society.

ADDING: One positive - Trump is the easiest political leader to work with as a writer. He's basically a caricature of ancient Greek tyrants. He's the type of ruler Shakespeare often portrays. As a human, Trump's terrible. As a screenwriter though - Trump's a godsend. A much hater political leader that you can crack jokes at and belittle as much as you want and know that basically 75% of the world is with you? That's a gift in disguise to anyone in the entertainment industry. Nixon and Vietnam fueled art by giving people something to rally against, Trump's basically done the same and he hasn't even taken office yet. That's one positive.
 
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I didn't support or vote for Trump but I think it's possible he might get some compromises on immigration and gun control.
 

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