The President Obama Thread: "Election Year" Edition III

[Marvolo]

http://www.intrade.com/v4/misc/scoreboard/

How does intrades poles work?

 

[TheBat812]

So? He's not the president of Mormonism. He doesn't speak for all of them.

Now the Catholic church, I think they are highly corrupt but that doesn't mean I think all Catholics are corrupt and they all hate gays and are against gay marriage.

I don't get it. Romney's direct position is that he's against gay marriage. Without either religious faction spending tons of money and havingn tonsof people voting to keep gay marriage illegal, then the issue wouldn't even be a big deal. So, yes, as a group they are responsible for the continued deinal of civil rights to gays in America.

Didn't he say if he gets into office he will enact a kind of 'sancticity of marriage' act to not allow gays to marry?

 

[Marvolo]

I don't get it. Romney's direct position is that he's against gay marriage.

Didn't he say if he gets into office he will enact a kind of 'sancticity of marriage' act to not allow gays to marry?

He did at one point, but you know how he flip fops. Who knows where he actually stands now.

 

[Matt]

How does intrades poles work?

It isn't a poll, it is more of gambling odds based on who is buying what stock.

 

[Marvolo]

It isn't a poll, it is more of gambling odds based on who is buying what stock.

Oh. Im clueless about stocks and gambling odds.

 

[Venom'sDad]

So, does Obama tearing up last night signify that he knows, the party is over?

 

[terry78]

If it's over for him, it's over for a lot of us.

 

[Kelly]

I don't get it. Romney's direct position is that he's against gay marriage. Without either religious faction spending tons of money and havingn tonsof people voting to keep gay marriage illegal, then the issue wouldn't even be a big deal. So, yes, as a group they are responsible for the continued deinal of civil rights to gays in America.

Didn't he say if he gets into office he will enact a kind of 'sancticity of marriage' act to not allow gays to marry?

Yes he has said that he is against "same sex marriage" so did Obama until he needed money....then he suddenly evolved, and immediately AFTER within a day I believe of his VP saying that this administration was FOR "same sex marriage" so he kind of had to fall with HIS ADMINISTRATION.

As far as Romney saying he would enact a kind of "sanctity whatever..." I have not heard him really talk much about same sex marriage, so I haven't heard that, maybe someone has a link to where he brought this up....but just as a reminder, it was a certain DEMOCRAT that started the whole thing back in the 90's..... : )

 

[Venom'sDad]

If it's over for him, it's over for a lot of us.

"us" meaning???

 

[TheBat812]

directly from his site: http://mittromneycentral.com/on-the-issues/same-sex-marriage/

"Supports a constitutional amendment that would define marriage as between a man and a woman."

Also Obama never said he supported it for political reasons, but he never said he was going to entertain the idea of an amendment to solidify the idea.

 

[Kelly]

directly from his site: http://mittromneycentral.com/on-the-issues/same-sex-marriage/

"Supports a constitutional amendment that would define marriage as between a man and a woman."

Also Obama never said he supported it for political reasons, but he never said he was going to entertain the idea of an amendment to solidify the idea.

Oh please, of course he wouldn't say that....good grief, but the timing of his "evolution of thinking" was obvious. It had just come out that his campaign was FAR BEHIND Romney's in donations.

 

[DACrowe]

I know this is completely trivial nor should anyone take political advice from celebrities--particularly pop stars--but somehow I missed this and only saw it this morning in a wrap up of the last 72 hours before the election on CNN and....

Day-um. I never really liked that slogan much until right now.

 

[DACrowe]

On a serious note, not that it matters, I think the fact that all indicators--Obama's slim, but steady climb in national polls aggregated on RCP, Romney's slow but steady decrease in favorability polls on the same site, the Silver forecast, intrade, and the fact that in this morning's polls Obama is up, even if by a decimals, in all but two of the supposed "swing states"--indicate Obama will win.

My final useless prediction is Obama will win the electoral college by 281 points by carrying Ohio, Nevada, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Hampshire and New Mexico while maintaining Michigan and Pennsylvania despite Boston's bluster and Romney will come close by carrying Florida, North Carolina and Colorado.

There. We will see how wrong I was tomorrow.

 

[Matt]

Crowe, for once we are on the same page. We have the exact same EC prediction.

 

[DACrowe]

"us" meaning???

It would mean it would be over for anyone who believes elections cannot be bought, that political cynicism by minority parties should not be rewarded and those who realize exploding the national deficit even more with tax cuts that only magnify income inequality in this country and an inevitable war with Iran are all bad things.

Obviously, that may not include everybody around here.

 

[DACrowe]

Crowe, for once we are on the same page. We have the exact same EC prediction.

This election truly is unpredictable.

 

[DACrowe]

First, I don't watch Fox news.

Second, I find it extremely amusing that not until it has become clear that obama is going to get a free pass on benghazi and its not really going to hurt him in the election that you suddenly 'get it'. For the record, though nothing will ever be done, it is ultimately his failure as commander in chief why those people died. Funny how you seem to ignore the fact that obama is being just as political about it by avoiding addressing his responsibility for it. And 'serious blunder'? That's an insult to the people that died.

And finally, I never criticized his handling of Sandy. That's just you, once again, reading in. I'm saying if the situation was exactly the same only a republican president was in office it would be all about 'They just forgot about Staton Island' and 'Where the hell are the FEMA generators?!' Now do you get it?

Now, I'm sick of politics for a while so I'm going to a more enjoyable forum to discuss something much more fun. Try not to pee your pants over the next 24 hours.

Piss out.

Benghazi was a security screw up. I wonder if you are as condemning on the Bush Administration for another 9/11...the one in 2001 that happened after they got memos that said, "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" that warned of flying planes into buildings.

And the difference is Obama wasn't partying and on vacation for the first two days of crisis and waiting that long to try to get Louisiana to send in the National Guard. Also, FEMA was on the ground immediately.

 

[SV Fan]

My final useless prediction is Obama will win the electoral college by 281 points by carrying Ohio, Nevada, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Hampshire and New Mexico while maintaining Michigan and Pennsylvania despite Boston's bluster and Romney will come close by carrying Florida, North Carolina and Colorado.

New Mexico isn't a swing state anymore, you mighty as well put is as a solid blue state like Michigan and Pennsylvania, infact I am more sure about NM then the other 2.

 

[SV Fan]

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[Marvolo]

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[Kelly]

Benghazi was a security screw up. I wonder if you are as condemning on the Bush Administration for another 9/11...the one in 2001 that happened after they got memos that said, "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" that warned of flying planes into buildings.

And the difference is Obama wasn't partying and on vacation for the first two days of crisis and waiting that long to try to get Louisiana to send in the National Guard. Also, FEMA was on the ground immediately.

I definitely understand where you are coming from....but the one thing that I see as a difference is that Post 9/11 security issues are/and should be looked at far differently than Pre 9/11....just like how security is different ON PLANES, no longer is it a case of negotiating with the terrorists on the plane, it is a "we will take you out at any cost" scenario, not a "wait and see" scenario. I just hope that the questions are answered about Benghazi, and we learn.

FEMA was on the ground immediately, not because of Obama, but because the GOVERNOR'S of those states asked for that help, immediately. FEMA is sent, ONCE THE PHONE CALL IS MADE (stupid bureaucracy yes...but that is how it is) to have them sent. It is not the call of the President, it is the call of the Governor of the state. People need to understand that to understand the **** up called Katrina...NOW, how Bush handled it afterwards with the fly over, etc....hell he even admits that was a stupid decision. I think that Obama needs to admit that the almost month of "uhs...and ahs...and we are waiting for intelligence, and we aren't sure what it was that happened...." was a stupid decision as well.

I don't blame what happened in Benghazi on the President persay, BUT...as Bush said with Katrina the "buck stops with him...." Obama has "said" the same thing....but his campaign operatives continued to make excuses, that is where I have the problem. I just want questions answered, not blame dealt and excuses given....

 

[SoulManX]

I know this is completely trivial nor should anyone take political advice from celebrities--particularly pop stars--but somehow I missed this and only saw it this morning in a wrap up of the last 72 hours before the election on CNN and....

Day-um. I never really liked that slogan much until right now.

I got something I can FORWARD to her

 

[Excel]

Imagine how good that dress would look a genuinely hot woman.

 

[SoulManX]

Imagine how good that dress would look a genuinely hot woman.

Katy not bad per say...her music on the other hand well

 

[terry78]

She has a nice body, that is pretty much it.