The Dark Knight The Realism Debate thread

[TheBatman072]

I think it's a little ridiculous to design a car where you have to drive on your stomach to fire missiles.... The only rational reason i can think of or that driving position is so that the driver's vertebrae aren't damaged from jumps.

It's for better aiming and driving.

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

I think it's a little ridiculous to design a car where you have to drive on your stomach to fire missiles.... The only rational reason i can think of or that driving position is so that the driver's vertebrae aren't damaged from jumps.

That's the one aspect of the Tumbler that looked totally unnecessary. I agree with you, its silly to have him go to the floorboard everytime he wants to fire a missle.

 

[CaptainClown]

why else do you think they didn't mass produce the tumbler.. you had to get on the floor to shoot missiles.

 

[Bright Knight]

It's for better aiming and driving.

Why do you think that?

 

[Bright Knight]

I dunno, were they there on the BB Tumbler? I suppose the weapons position could open up like a mouth, then shift over in line with the front left wheel. Pretty Transformerish though

I only saw them in the pic i was describing, the pic which is now lost in the spam of the chicago thread.

Just a wild guess though.

 

[TheBatman072]

Why do you think that?

He was driving on rooftops and such. If you're in the middle of the car, it's better to navigate. But on one side, it's much easier to misjudge and then fall right the hell off the roof.

 

[Dvhyzs]

Why do you think that?

He's closer to the ground...giving him precision.
EDIT: what he said^

 

[sasquatchs]

Here you go. I have no idea what they're for, haven't got any decent Begins pictures to compare

 

[Boom]

I hated the prone position in The Tumbler, because it resulted in making the front of the vehicle look like utter ****. I remember when the first pictures of The Tumbler came online, people thought they weren't done building it.

 

[sasquatchs]

He was driving on rooftops and such. If you're in the middle of the car, it's better to navigate. But on one side, it's much easier to misjudge and then fall right the hell off the roof.

So Fox designed it for driving on rooftops?

 

[TheBatman072]

So Fox designed it for driving on rooftops?

No, it was designed for jumping. Of which it did. Onto a rooftop.


When you're jumping over a huge river or small canyon, you want to have the best perspective. Of which you can't have on one side of a vehicle. But right in the middle? Much better perspective.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I hate when Batman has to go on his stomach to fire missiles, I just HATE that!!! Ugh.

 

[CaptainClown]

what do you think he does all those pushups for

 

[TheBatman072]

what do you think he does all those pushups for

Lifting bloody logs.

 

[Bright Knight]

Here you go. I have no idea what they're for, haven't got any decent Begins pictures to compare

Brill thanks man... Now if you look at the left tire (as we se it), it seems to have the ability to hinge 90 degrees.... THis is evident by looking at the notch. Presumably the other tire would have this ability too. Now... WHy are there struts on the side of the Weapon launching position? They look like pneumaticor hydrolic pumps? Yet they aren't connect to the wheels... What if all of this popper out and the tires turned 90 degrees and so did the weapon's system?

The Pod's tires are the same size as the tumbler's tyres, and i don't think they could be concealed underneath the tumbler...


This is the only conceivable way i can see of the Pod being part of the tumbler...

 

[CaptainClown]

Lifting bloody logs.

hehe

 

[sasquatchs]

No, it was designed for jumping. Of which it did. Onto a rooftop.


When you're jumping over a huge river or small canyon, you want to have the best perspective. Of which you can't have on one side of a vehicle. But right in the middle? Much better perspective.

The position is stationary in the wrong axis which was a bit stupid of them. It's more like a fancy motorbike feature. Unless it really can motion up and down, those suspension things kind of suggest it even though it wasn't shown

 

[Bright Knight]

No, it was designed for jumping. Of which it did. Onto a rooftop.


When you're jumping over a huge river or small canyon, you want to have the best perspective. Of which you can't have on one side of a vehicle. But right in the middle? Much better perspective.

Well why not build the seat in the middle then? Why would he have to go on his stomach with a smaller range of arm movement for steering?

The only reason I can think of for this, as I said, was to protect the driver's vertebrae from damage if the tumbler has a bad landing. If he's flat his spine is less likely to get injured.

 

[Figs]

So Fox designed it for driving on rooftops?

For the last time!!!!!! Fox does not design **** at Wayne enterprises. I hate how everyone was *****ing that Fox made Batman all his gadgets.

People it's a corporation, they have employees/engineers that design and come up with all that ****. Mr. Earl sent Fox down there to keep from causing the board anymore trouble remember!??? He is basically just keeping everything in order and whatnot, yeah he has smarts to create the antidote but they never said he created the Tumbler as well as anything else like the grapple gun.

 

[Dvhyzs]

For the last time!!!!!! Fox does not design **** at Wayne enterprises. I hate how everyone was *****ing that Fox made Batman all his gadgets.

People it's a corporation, they have employees/engineers that design and come up with all that ****. Mr. Earl sent Fox down there to keep from causing the board anymore trouble remember!??? He is basically just keeping everything in order and whatnot, yeah he has smarts to create the antidote but they never said he created the Tumbler as well as anything else like the grapple gun.

He just kinda sits there.....vegetating.

 

[sasquatchs]

Brill thanks man... Now if you look at the left tire (as we se it), it seems to have the ability to hinge 90 degrees.... THis is evident by looking at the notch. Presumably the other tire would have this ability too. Now... WHy are there struts on the side of the Weapon launching position? They look like pneumaticor hydrolic pumps? Yet they aren't connect to the wheels... What if all of this popper out and the tires turned 90 degrees and so did the weapon's system?

The Pod's tires are the same size as the tumbler's tyres, and i don't think they could be concealed underneath the tumbler...


This is the only conceivable way i can see of the Pod being part of the tumbler...

Yea, seems like pretty complex stuff for Nolan, although a few have told me it really is part of it. If it used both of the tires it would be facing 90 degrees to the direction of motion though.

It'd have to go like this while moving |==| /==/ __==__

 

[Bright Knight]

For the last time!!!!!! Fox does not design **** at Wayne enterprises. I hate how everyone was *****ing that Fox made Batman all his gadgets.

People it's a corporation, they have employees/engineers that design and come up with all that ****. Mr. Earl sent Fox down there to keep from causing the board anymore trouble remember!??? He is basically just keeping everything in order and whatnot, yeah he has smarts to create the antidote but they never said he created the Tumbler as well as anything else like the grapple gun.

Over react much?!

Yea and corporations have chief designers!

 

[sasquatchs]

For the last time!!!!!! Fox does not design **** at Wayne enterprises. I hate how everyone was *****ing that Fox made Batman all his gadgets.

People it's a corporation, they have employees/engineers that design and come up with all that ****. Mr. Earl sent Fox down there to keep from causing the board anymore trouble remember!??? He is basically just keeping everything in order and whatnot, yeah he has smarts to create the antidote but they never said he created the Tumbler as well as anything else like the grapple gun.

Who cares, someone at Wayne tech designed it, it's not the point I was making. The whole thing was facetious anyway

 

[Dvhyzs]

Over react much?!

Yea and corporations have chief designers!

Not really...


It does get kinda annoying.

 

[Boom]

My question is this. All of the equipment Bruce "borrowed" from Wayne Enterprises: do you think they're still in the inventory files?

I mean, I'd assume Wayne Enterprises would do inventory of its stored products, to make sure nobody is stealing ****. How's Fox supposed to explain that an expensive military vehicle prototype is just missing, when it's still in the files?

It would have been cool to see Bruce go through the Wayne Enterprises computer files and delete the data on all of the equipment he took. Nobody would have proof that they existed in the first place if they're completely erased from the computer bank.