The Dark Knight The Realism Debate thread

[itsthebatman]

We need another surfing down from the upper atmosphere on a piece of rocket scene, otherwise I'm boycotting this movie

I will be picketing my local theatre. 'Down with this sort of thing!'

 

[bobguy64]

You don't like the cape? But it adds so much. For a little bit of credibility leeway you don't have to ask the question, what if he falls off the building?

He throws a batarang with a rope attached, and swings to another roof.

Attach a hang glider to the back of your neck, grab it with your hands, and feel the breeze on your face as you choke to death.

 

[sasquatchs]

A batarang with a rope attached would snap your arms off from the force, it's no better realisitically

 

[bobguy64]

A batarang with a rope attached would snap your arms off from the force, it's no better realisitically

Only if the batarang catches something directly overhead and you come to a sudden stop.

Throw it to one side and your swing will absorb your kinetic energy. Like a skatboard ramp does.

He would still have to be strong enough to hold his own weight, but, hey. He's Batman.


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[Crook]

To be honest, even if they had used the batrope method, no one would have second-guessed it. You'd have to be a real anal person to not just go with the flow in that situation.

 

[itsthebatman]

To be honest, even if they had used the batrope method, no one would have second-guessed it. You'd have to be a real anal person to not just go with the flow in that situation.

Anyone seen regwec?

 

[sasquatchs]

Yea, the reason I thought the gliding cape was a good addition is just that it frees Batman up more rather than plausibility. In some places Begins was pretty lazy after making an effort at it, but nothing that really takes away from the film. Except the logic of the climax

 

[bobguy64]

I never liked the gliding cape because, IMO, it takes Batman away from his core.

He's a man. He uses his weapons and skills to appear to be supernatural or superpowered. Granted, he's trained his body and mind to great means, but in the end it's all just tricks.

Giving him a flying cape makes it easy to be Batman, when I think it should be difficult. It should so tough that only a man driven by the most intense rage could do it.



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[sasquatchs]

You think if you put any reasonably fit man in the Begins costume they could be Batman too? I think TDK will show very well what happens when others try to imitate him

 

[bobguy64]

You think if you put any reasonably fit man in the Begins costume they could be Batman too?

No, what I said was quite the opposite. Only Bruce Wayne can do it.

 

[sasquatchs]

You said only Bruce Wayne should be able to do it, but with the cape other people would be able to because it's much easier

 

[fcrowelle06]

See, this is what I'm talking about, we're sticking so much to the "realistic" that we're losing too many aspects of why we loved batman in the first place...geez...anyway, another character I'm worried about it is ClayFace...Nolan would have to work his ass off to make that "realistic"...well the B:TAS origin for him was pretty realistic

 

[fcrowelle06]

(shrugs)

 

[bobguy64]

You said only Bruce Wayne should be able to do it, but with the cape other people would be able to because it's much easier

No, I said the cape made it easy to be Batman. IMO, being Batman should be difficult. You went so far as to add the "anybody could do it" stuff.

 

[bobguy64]

Nolan would have to work his ass off to make that "realistic"...well the B:TAS origin for him was pretty realistic

If they shot that episode live action, I'd be happy. That's my all time favorite.

Loved "Germs" and the seawater scene.



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[sasquatchs]

No, I said the cape made it easy to be Batman. IMO, being Batman should be difficult. You went so far as to add the "anybody could do it" stuff.

Not to be pedantic but:

It should so tough that only a man driven by the most intense rage could do it

If it's not that tough, other people can do it

 

[fcrowelle06]

yeah, Clay-Face...actually was pretty realistic in that cartoon, still manages to impress me to this day

 

[bobguy64]

If it's not that tough, other people can do it

You're saying that the average reasonably fit guy on the street is driven by intense rage?

Dude, you're not understanding me at all.

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[sasquatchs]

No, but your sentance says that you don't have to be a man with intense rage to be Batman if you have this new fangled cape. If you don't really mean that, fine. No point arguing over semantics

 

[bobguy64]

yeah, Clay-Face...actually was pretty realistic in that cartoon, still manages to impress me to this day

Oh, yeah. Hollywood, the mob, mutegenic lotions. That episode has it all.

I betcha the public at large (non comic fans) would just write it off as a Terminator 2 knockoff, which is a real bummer.


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[bobguy64]

No, but your sentance says that you don't have to be a man with intense rage to be Batman if you have this new fangled cape. If you don't really mean that, fine. No point arguing over semantics

Cool. Let's let this drop.

 

[fcrowelle06]

I still don't know the idiot who approved Catwoman: THe Movie...."Hey...wanna have a Catwoman movie without Batman in at her start..." ......(smack)....(stab)...(bang in the face with shotgun)...(get Christopher Walken to push him out of 5-story where he gets bitten by cats...but dies from the pain)

 

[fcrowelle06]

that's what I'd do to that guy...stupid, stupid,stupid

 

[Mr. Socko]

Every time in Begins, when Batman is using the cape it becomes rigid because he touches it with the gloves. I prefer the Batman Returns way where the cape just normally drifts when he's in the air and when he wants it rigid he just uses the glider. In Begins, whenever Batman uses the cape it's gotta be rigid, I believe.

 

[bobguy64]

I still don't know the idiot who approved Catwoman: THe Movie...."Hey...wanna have a Catwoman movie without Batman in at her start..." ......(smack)....(stab)...(bang in the face with shotgun)...(get Christopher Walken to push him out of 5-story where he gets bitten by cats...but dies from the pain)

I would have loved to be in the meeting where they pitched the concept. That must have been effing hilarious.



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