The Runaways Thread

[hippy fascist]

Well, there's two ways you can go about doing this:

First, you can collect them in digest form. Each digest costs about 8 dollars and collects 6 issues in each. The ones released so far:

Vol. 1 - Pride and Joy
Vol. 2 - Teenage Wasteland
Vol. 3 - The Good Die Young
Vol. 4 - True Believers
Vol. 5 - Escape to New York
Vol. 6 - Parental Guidance

Those collect up to issue 18 of volume 2 of the series, so you'll have to scrounge up the single issues of 19-24.

The other way is to collect the hardcovers:

Volume 1 contains all 18 issues of the first series, and Volume 2 collects the first 18 issues of the second series, plus the Free Comic Book Day one shot where they met the X-Men. Again, you'll have to collect 19-24 yourself, and these may be more expensive, but more recommended.

definately worth it. compare the price per issue with most hardcovers and it's actually very cheap. The hardocvers will basically cost you the same ammount as the digests and you get them full sized rather than shrunk to digest format...

 

[The Cajun]

Hmmm... He put 'Nico's a ****' the mouth of her evil dead parents and Nico pointed out the very obvious fact that she's had 'boyfriends' in her life and suggested that it's possible she hasn't slept with anyone. That's awful close to a slap, imho... a much needed one, again, imho.

That said, Chase as a villain was unavoidable, but when the choice is Nico or Chase, then, well... that's a bit scary.

OHMIGOSH!!!!!!

Chase has the Abstract!! He already knows what's going to happen and he has a plan. He's not evil, and chances are Nico's the one he's going to bring back from the dead or something like that. That's my call... we'll see how it pans out.

Well the main thing we know is that Gert won't be coming back from the dead. I mean BKV dedicated an entire arc in getting that point across.

I really can't see Nico dying as it would mean Chase would either be killed or exiled from the group, meaning two major characters would be gone in one hit.

Whats more likley however is that Nico survives and Chase is the one killed. I just can't see a way for BKV to dig Chase out of this hole hes in. I mean he kidnapped a team member, put her in a dark room and tied her up.

The one ending I'm praying we don't see is one in which it turns out to all have been an elaborate plan by Chase where he wasn't actually going to kill Nico - ending the arc on a high note.

But hang on...WHAT IF BKV ACTUALLY KILLS OF NICO TO BRING BACK GERT?! He always likes to shock and it would be a totally unexpected ending.

I DON'T WANT NICO TO DIE! GERT SUCKED!

On a lighter note...ain't the preview pages out soon for the new issue?

 

[Kevin]

we never know... future gert may still be possible.... with the death of chase, of course.

 

[Mogwai]

I don't want Chase to die, I just want him to stop being emo.. As for Gert, though she was a cool character, I don't care to see her back.

 

[Kevin]

The book is so different without her... and I don't mean good. I hope "The Loners" is good.

 

[Dread]

I really don't want either Nico or Chase to die. I like both of them and the book wouldn't be the same without either. True, you could say the same of Gert, but, you need to keep some type of regular cast.

It's a cop-out answer, but I actually wondered if the "Staff of One" had a bit of a corrupting effect, especially if someone not in the "family bloodline" used it. Especially someone like Chase whose soul is darker than Nico's. I mean, Chase claimed it was too intense to use again, but here he is, using it again. I doubt that's it, though, precisely because it is probably a cop out.

It's wholly possible that the gang have to convince Chase to be careful with what he is unleashing, but something goes wrong and it gets unleashed anyway. And if the Avengers can keep inviting Pym back after he only built their greatest enemy, Ultron, than there may be hope for Chase.

 

[The Cajun]

The Runaways are kids though not adult super-heros like the Avengers. I mean when you were 16/17 and a mate of yours tied you up and was about to kill you would you forgive him?

I just can't see this ending good for either Chase or Nico. Either Nico is killed just before it seemed she was about to settle down with a decent boy like Victor, or Chase bites the bullet after going too far in his quest to bring Gert back.

We can't even pretend that this is some big plan by Chase to finally get rid of those tall animal people as they will dissapear soon on their own anyway.

Whatever happens though I'm just praying we see Victor's darker side as he tries to save Nico. Hes always had the potential to be a total badass.

 

[chamber-music]

I miss gert the team don't feel the same without her for me. I find Victor kind of boring.

 

[Kevin]

I feel the same... But not about victor, he's too kool for me to thinks he's boring... even though he does nothing... and his best scenes mostly involved gert... *sigh*god, I'm starting to hate this book.

 

[The Cajun]

starting to hate this book.

You just made my hit list.

 

[Kevin]

t:awesome

 

[Dread]

I like Victor, and I feel the team needs him; despite the fact that his mother is dead and his father was Ultron, he's amung their more level headed and grounded members. He's also the only one whose mantra isn't "mistrust anyone who is over 21, or anyone we don't know, or anyone, ever". He usually engages in their "battles of misunderstandings" usually because the other members have already gotten into it.

The Runaways aren't the Avengers, naturally, but Chase is my favorite character and it really would be a drag to axe him off. The book and Vaughan are good enough to not need a death every arc or so, and it's a bit of a shame if he has to end on that note. Then it becomes like NEW X-MEN, a book that is nothing if it doesn't have side characters to slaughter for "dramatic effect". Still, after kidnapping Nico it would take a lot for the team to forgive him, especially as he is now 18 and thus legally an "evil adult" (although he still can't legally buy beer). I do think it is very interesting in that when they first met, it was Chase who was angry with Victor because of his alternate alter ego killing "Future Gert" and that fear that he'd either kill Gert, or worse, date her (Chase admitted he was probably a better match as he was smarter). Then they sort of became friends and now the role is reversed; Chase is threatening Victor's girlfriend, and Chase has technically "kissed" her, although not exactly willingly.

Considering that Victor can now drive the Leapfrog, it's possible that Chase will bite the big one. Bummer. What happens to Old Lace, does she die too or does Chase have a change of heart and toss her to Molly or something? Considering that some of Ryan's leaked sketches do not show Chase (they showed Nico, Molly, and Karolina), this may confirm that Chase may indeed head off to Purgatory.

 

[Mogwai]

I honestly don't want anyone from the current lineup to die...except for Xavin..

 

[Kevin]

Xavin still sux

 

[GL1]

The one ending I'm praying we don't see is one in which it turns out to all have been an elaborate plan by Chase where he wasn't actually going to kill Nico - ending the arc on a high note.

This is the reason I was jumping up and down earlier. Chase has the Abstrat, he knows the future. There's simply no other way for this to go other than Chase having an elaborate plan of some sort.

Also, Chase killing Nico to bring back Gert would not count as a surprise ending since that's the what Chase's been saying he's going to do this whole time.

I have a feeling that someone is going to die AND get brought back to life, playing with the phrase "dead mean's Dead" while still enforcing it (Gert will stay dead, or perhaps get brought back alive briefly). Wouldn't it be cool if Chase brought Gert back just to tell her her loved her cuz he never got the chance, then killed Gert to bring back Nico? That'd be hot. Especially if it took care of the Gibborim permanently instead of just having his parents' killers hanging out in another dimension waiting for some more planets to align and crap.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

my big question is... how the hell is nico really that innocent?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

^She hasn't slept with everybody yet.

 

[The Cajun]

HOLY **** I JUST REALIZED THAT ISSUE #23 ISN'T OUT TIL 2007!!!!

Wasn't it meant to be coming out this week?

 

[chamber-music]

Xavin still sux

I agree with ComicBoy Xavin is lame. If anyone should turn evil and try to kill the Runaways it should be him.

For me the core members of the group are Molly, Chase, Nico and Gert. If all of those charcaters go I am done.

I hate how in comics nowhere days you need to kill a chracter to make some kind of big statement.

 

[OtepApe]

I don't want or think either Nico or Chase should bite the big one.

The team just lost Gert not long back, to lose another member so quickly due to death is kinda overkill. And I don't want the title to become a 'who's dying this arc' style of book.

 

[Specter313]

Chase has the Abstrat, he knows the future. There's simply no other way for this to go other than Chase having an elaborate plan of some sort.

Not anymore he doesn't. He gave it to Lotus and told her to get rid of it at the end of the last arc.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

HOLY **** I JUST REALIZED THAT ISSUE #23 ISN'T OUT TIL 2007!!!!

Wasn't it meant to be coming out this week?

I didn't know that. That sux. I wonder why BKV couldn't finish his run on schedule?

 

[Dread]

HOLY **** I JUST REALIZED THAT ISSUE #23 ISN'T OUT TIL 2007!!!!

Wasn't it meant to be coming out this week?

You're correct. Marvel.com -- which is not always terribly accurate with late books -- notes that Runaways #23 will ship on 1/3/07 (along with CIVIL WAR #6), which is a few weeks late (but not quite a month). It is rare for RUNAWAYS to be late and it is a drag. I'll still await it, though. And to be fair, it's been almost a year since an issue was more than a week late. That's pretty good these days

As for reasons, Vaughan does write other books right now, at least 3 others off the top of my head. Also, the 3 month Norton gap may not have been enough lead time for Alphona for some reason. But who knows.

 

[GL1]

Not anymore he doesn't. He gave it to Lotus and told her to get rid of it at the end of the last arc.

Oh, yeah! I forgot! That doesn't preclude him having read it and having plan. Really, what's the point of Chase ever having the abstract right after Gert died if he doesn't know some future.

Seriously, all signs point to Chasing having a plan other than the one he's stating. Even money says Gert stays dead, Nico stays alive and Chase isn't a villain, though the others still may not want him on the team.

 

[Dread]

Chase also "tore out some pages he needed" from the Abstract before giving it to Lotus to burn, and Vaughan or Whedon could make future hay with that as something could always have been on one of those pages. I've seen other franchises and writers milk stuff that made far less sense.

That is a valid point, that having Chase seek to kill Nico to revive Gert would be the "predictable" tack to take things, especially after the last issue. Vaughan usually likes throwing in some type of curve (the heritage of Victor, the feeling that Gert was 'safe' because we met her future version, etc). With Gert gone, the "core" members for me are Chase, Nico, Karolina and Molly, although I do like Victor and yes, even Xavin (Wells made him cool in YA/RUNAWAYS).