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I'm done with this after Joss' last. Like some of you I just got bored with it, but I am a completist. I like to stop at the end of a run/arc. I don't have the will to continue with this any longer even tho Ramo's art is somewhat tolerable for me.
 
I just remembered the solicitation of the restart and had a bad thought: Is Ramos going to be doing all the covers as well for as long as he's on the series? If so, I'm going to be even more pissed! I want my gorgeous Jo Chen covers DAMMIT! :cmad::cmad::cmad:
It's better this way. Jo Chen covers on Ramos interiors would just depress you that much more.
 
Again, I still operate on the belief that Runaways ended on issue #24 of Volume 2.
 
Again, I still operate on the belief that Runaways ended on issue #24 of Volume 2.

Not a bad theory. Frankly, if I'd stopped there, I wouldn't have regretted it seeing what has come after.

Last Whedon issue, and I am done.
 
Assuming we ever see that last issue, lol. :p
 
I just remembered the solicitation of the restart and had a bad thought: Is Ramos going to be doing all the covers as well for as long as he's on the series? If so, I'm going to be even more pissed! I want my gorgeous Jo Chen covers DAMMIT! :cmad::cmad::cmad:

It's better this way. Jo Chen covers on Ramos interiors would just depress you that much more.

:lmao:That's just so...tragic.
 
Just finished Whedon's run, the last issue only got good once they got back to the present :o

Chase was really cool, hope he stays that way. And I really hope Vic isn't all emo and brooding like Nico used to be now. Hooray for Nico's new attitude though :up:
 
I hate Whedon so much. Every time he sets up a promising romance, he tears it down. It's getting really old.
 
Oh, whatever, emo-boy. Plenty of people have loving relationships all over the world. And it's not even like it was on Whedon's TV shows, where he'd create a happy couple and then tear them apart or kill one of them off a year or a few years into their relationship. No, now he's decided to cut out the middleman and just tear romances apart before they've even developed into relationships. The message seems to have shifted from the idea that there's no happily ever after to the idea that there aren't even happy beginnings. It's just obnoxious.
 
meh, i'm glad red didnt take flight in modern day... runaways has too many love stories anyway, and i felt theres was pushed.
 
eh.... well right now at this very moment yes, (just Xavin and Karolina) but in a small timeframe we had...

-Xavin and Karolina
-Nico and Chase
-Nico and Victor
-Victor and Redhead girl
-Chase and pinning for Gerty

i'm sure a new combo will start here soon... nico always has to have a guy, and one of the guys always seems to have to want a girl.
 
Oh, whatever, emo-boy. Plenty of people have loving relationships all over the world. And it's not even like it was on Whedon's TV shows, where he'd create a happy couple and then tear them apart or kill one of them off a year or a few years into their relationship. No, now he's decided to cut out the middleman and just tear romances apart before they've even developed into relationships. The message seems to have shifted from the idea that there's no happily ever after to the idea that there aren't even happy beginnings. It's just obnoxious.

I agree, but I am just morbidly curious about how long it will take BrianWilly to debate this point. I mean, you called a Whedon story tactic "obnoxious". That's an insult! :whatever:

I've decided that the YA/RUNAWAYS mini will likely be my last touch with the franchise. The desire for it has deeply dwindled and there are more Marvel books that I consider "good" and "must-reads" every month right now. Plus, I can't stand Ramos art. I'll take a pass on the relaunch unless it gets some MONDO reviews.
 
I love Runaways...

But after this last issue, it holds no interest for me. Like, it was a cool set up, but as far as I'm concerned, Nico and Chase are grown now, very much so. They are, as far as I can tell, a full fledged superhero team, capable of going fist-a-fist with any supervillain I can think of. Who do they need to run from exactly? The Registration maybe...

This last time arc bored me to the utmost... the whole premise of a superpowered turn of the century was so... off for me... it seemed like the characters of the past kind of took over for the Runaways at a point. I would enjoy a show about these groups of people, or a standalone comic... but as my only dose of runaways for nearly a year? Let them stay in the background.

Why does no one know what to do with Xavin? Is it that hard to write a xenophobic shapeshifter? Does his very essence not give you story ideas?
 
I've decided that the YA/RUNAWAYS mini will likely be my last touch with the franchise. The desire for it has deeply dwindled and there are more Marvel books that I consider "good" and "must-reads" every month right now. Plus, I can't stand Ramos art. I'll take a pass on the relaunch unless it gets some MONDO reviews.
This is me right now. Of the two teams, really, I think YA is better anyhow. If I am going to buy a book, I'll buy theirs if it ever relaunches again.
 
I'm not going to stop buying it...I hated Whedon's run, but now that he's done, I'm really hoping it gets good again.
 
Hmm, seems I have a few people agreeing with me here. It is a shame about RUNAWAYS, truly. I guess part of it's appeal, at least for me, was that it really felt like an indie book mixed into the 616 Marvel Universe. It acknowledged it, but not all the time, and only in a few guest shots. At least until CIVIL WAR. BKV had some more guest shots, but he would always kid and call them what they were (he once said that "East Coast/West Coast", which had the New Avengers appear, could have also been named "Selling Out"). The book struggled to surpass 25k per month during his run and did steep up in his final arc. The book's premise is both simple and complicated at the same time, and apparently not easy to duplicate.

Joss Whedon was a fan, and he wrote like one. The idea of the Runaways time traveling 100 years into the past isn't a bad one; yeah, a generic story, but they hadn't done it yet in the title. What didn't work was Joss' sometimes ropey depictions of the characters, mucking up the Nico/Victor relationship for little good reason, making Molly more annoying, and introducing a crap-ton of characters. While I liked that the pace was faster than AXM, he seemed to try to do too much in a way, and the characters become lost in a story about another time and dozens of new faces, including an obligatory new member with a single punchline. She's from the 19th century, and this is appalled at 21st century lingo and custom. That's funny for a while, but after another 6-10 issues worth, will get very old. Two-Gun Kid she ain't.

Much like AXM, it had some very good moments. In every issue I could easily find 1-3 scenes that were funny, or thrilling, or whatever. But a story is more than a series of moments strung together by obligation, and RUNAWAYS couldn't escape that.

And this isn't even getting into the horrible lateness (which, lest I get more ire, wasn't Whedon's fault). 14 months to get 6 issues sucks any momentum out of the story and sales dwindled because of it after a strong debut for Whedon.

But, as some people may have said, part of the issue is the series may have lasted long enough that the appeal of inexperienced, super-powered kids truly taking on the world loses some luster when they've been "running" for over 3 years in real time and have battled everything from super-villains to vampires to aliens to time-travelers, demons, criminals, mutants, and so on. The characters still have appeal and dynamics, but it just isn't the same. Not every franchise, I guess, can remain the same as it started in the Western "stories never end until they can't sell" manner of publishing.

Plus, when the RUNAWAYS emerged, "teen teams" had run a course and needed a fresh new update. As time went on, more of them emerged and they became lost in the shuffle.

Still, I am excited about a potential movie with Vaughan involved in the writing or production. It would be awesome to see a franchise from one of the Big Two actually make it to the bigger media in less than a decade. The only ones that have were usually Dark Horse properties.

I've made some rants about Heinberg & YA, and I don't feel like repeating them. The YA's sales for their mini are a shadow of what they were even 3 years ago. Stalling for Heinberg has extinguished the momentum of the franchise and now a relaunch of an ongoing might not last beyond a year. Still, I'd love to see it.
 
If it were almost anyone other than Ramos drawing, I'd probably at least give it a try. But the Runaways as a whole have soured on me, and Ramos is basically the straw that broke the camel's back.
 
If it were almost anyone other than Ramos drawing, I'd probably at least give it a try. But the Runaways as a whole have soured on me, and Ramos is basically the straw that broke the camel's back.

I wanted a autographed drawing with Molly in crocs but I didn't get to at Wizard World:o How is Initiative ranking on the scales with YA and Runaways?
 
Not quite as good as the best YA and Runaways have to offer, but pretty good overall.
 
Oh, whatever, emo-boy. Plenty of people have loving relationships all over the world. And it's not even like it was on Whedon's TV shows, where he'd create a happy couple and then tear them apart or kill one of them off a year or a few years into their relationship. No, now he's decided to cut out the middleman and just tear romances apart before they've even developed into relationships. The message seems to have shifted from the idea that there's no happily ever after to the idea that there aren't even happy beginnings. It's just obnoxious.

Oh come on. Are you telling me you ended up with your first love? Or even second? Heck even third, fourth, fifth??? Life is messy.

I've had a few long term and a few REALLY short term relationships. And guess what? They've all had to end so I could be in the relationship I'm in now. And all those endings were messy. OK, not death and destruction messy but these are superpowered people we're talking about
 
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