The Sarah Palin Thread: 'Controversial Controversy' Edition

[chaseter]

I disagree. The true silent majority are libertarians - people just dont know it.

Because most of them are radical conspiracy nut jobs. I like Ron Paul but dude is a 9/11 truther. He has some great ideas but he also has some really dumb ideas. Same goes for his son. Same goes for Glenn Bleck.

 

[StorminNorman]

Libertarian =/= radical conspiracy nut job.

I not remotely a 9/11 truther.

 

[chaseter]

But that is why they aren't the silent majority...because a lot of them are whackos just like every party has.

The moderates/independents are the silent majority. They held the key to the past 2 election cycles and will continue to do so as they grow in size. Independents elected Bush the second go around and Independents elected Obama.

 

[Marx]

But that is why they aren't the silent majority...because a lot of them are whackos just like every party has.

The moderates/independents are the silent majority. They held the key to the past 2 election cycles and will continue to do so as they grow in size. Independents elected Bush the second go around and Independents elected Obama.

Exactly chase.

 

[Schlosser85]

Being a Libertarian has nothing to do with being a "radical conspiracy nut job".

I put that in parantheses because I personally think believing planes go poof when they hit buildings is a little nuttier than questioning where it went.

 

[StorminNorman]

But that is why they aren't the silent majority...because a lot of them are whackos just like every party has.

The moderates/independents are the silent majority. They held the key to the past 2 election cycles and will continue to do so as they grow in size. Independents elected Bush the second go around and Independents elected Obama.

I am not saying that the Silent Majority are card caring libertarians.

I am saying that the Silent Majority, ideologically, are libertarian. They want the government out of their life. They just have never been taught libertarianism.

 

[chaseter]

Reducing government size and scope =/= no government in or lives.

 

[Marx]

PALIN INVOKES 'BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/23/palin-calls-obama-barack-hussein/

Sigh...

 

[chaseter]

Being a Libertarian has nothing to do with being a "radical conspiracy nut job".

I put that in parantheses because I personally think believing planes go poof when they hit buildings is a little nuttier than questioning where it went.

It doesn't, but too many of them are radical nut jobs just like every major party has. The only reasonable people left in this country are the moderates/independents. Those are the true middle of the road people and they hold the most power in this country because they are the swing voters.

 

[Schlosser85]

Palin being hypocritical? Halt the presses!

 

[StorminNorman]

Reducing government size and scope =/= no government in or lives.

Libertarianism is not about no government in our lives - simply that the government's only job is protection. Again, I think most people don't want any more than that with government. Now if you start bringing up some of the more extreme aspects of libertarian platform - such as deregulation, constitutionalized currency, etc. - I think many people would raise eyebrows, but even that is due mainly to their own ignorance of the issues than rejecting the goals and logic behind them.

 

[dnno1]

PALIN: AMERICA IS A 'CHRISTIAN NATION'; LAWS SHOULD BE BASED ON 'GOD OF THE BIBLE'
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...this woman is really giving Mike Huckabee a run for his money.

Just for the record, Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, which was written in 1797 states that "America is not , in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion..." I guess Mrs. Palin was mistaken or something.

 

[Hobgoblin]

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_new...rty-not-extreme-but-voice-of-reason?Gt1=43001

From NBC's John Boxley and Domenico Montanaro
SAN DIEGO, Calif. -- Sarah Palin challenged the notion that the Tea Party is extreme in a speech here Saturday.

"We are not the extreme ones," she said at the Patriotic Gala Celebration. "We are the voice of reason."

Palin stressed that the election is about the little guy, which is what she claims the Tea Party is all about.

"The little guys all across America have risen up," she said, "and the 'Mama Grizzlies' are starting to growl. We are going to protect our young, we are going to protect the next generation of Americans, so the Mama Grizzlies are growling, we are rising up on our hind legs and saying no, we are going to change course, we need that real hope, we need that real change."

Praising the Tea Party, Palin said, "The Tea Party is a beautiful movement. It's held both sides of the aisle accountable, and both parts of the GOP and the Democrat machine, they don't know what to do with the Tea Party America."

Listening to Palin speak, it certainly sounded like the former Alaska governor is in no hurry to return to public office. She's enjoying the chance to speak her mind.

"I get to say some things that some of you guys can't say," she said, "because I have no title, I have no uniform, I have no office. It's Todd and me -- I get to say what I feel...."

And it was vintage Palin, saying everyone who voted for the Obama-Reid-Pelosi agenda "must be fired."

"We need to take back the gavel from Nancy Pelosi," Palin said. "We're going to get this country back on the right track no matter what it takes. We will do it."

And, of course, she took on the media: "'We have the media here tonight, and its never smart to pick a fight with those who buy ink by the barrelful, but what the heck. When the 'Lamestream Media' just doesn't get it, and if they don't believe what your message is, so they want to belittle you and treat you with much disdain; they can do that to me, that is fine, because I know truth, and I am fine with the political shots they take."

 

[Marx]

The 'voice of reason'? Something tells me no.

 

[redhawk23]

ONLY A SITH THINKS IN SUCH EXTREMES.

 

[Schlosser85]

If Sarah Palin is the voice of reason, the world is doomed beyond repair.

 

[Marx]

If Sarah Palin is the voice of reason, the world is doomed beyond repair.

Well said.

 

[chaseter]

As Colbert said, reason is just one letter away from treason. Maybe she got the two mixed up.

 

[bell110]

Because most of them are radical conspiracy nut jobs. I like Ron Paul but dude is a 9/11 truther. He has some great ideas but he also has some really dumb ideas. Same goes for his son. Same goes for Glenn Bleck.

When has Ron Paul been a 9/11 thruther? Show me where "most" Libertarians are radical conspiracy nut jobs.

But that is why they aren't the silent majority...because a lot of them are whackos just like every party has.

The moderates/independents are the silent majority. They held the key to the past 2 election cycles and will continue to do so as they grow in size. Independents elected Bush the second go around and Independents elected Obama.

It doesn't, but too many of them are radical nut jobs just like every major party has. The only reasonable people left in this country are the moderates/independents. Those are the true middle of the road people and they hold the most power in this country because they are the swing voters.

Saying you're a moderate/independent is like saying you listen to "alternative" music. It's such a broad term it doesn't really mean anything. Even Bill O'Reilly conciders himself an independent. And Independents suck because they choose the "lesser of two evils".

The "true" silent majority are the people who don't bother to vote.

 

[Kelly]

Well to be honest, Libertarians do seem to put the "off the wall" types out there as their candidates.

Which I've never understood, because most that I know, and have been friends with for years are more like Stossel, and are actually pretty damn level headed.

 

[DACrowe]

It's easier to espouse libertarianism in a vacuum or bubble of hypotheticals. Ideology can remain pure while the realities of governance and national interests are irrelevant. Once you try and put someone up to run for an office who actually has to say what they will do to take us back to the "golden" age of the 1890s...well then you see how bat**** crazy their ideas really are.

I kid, libertarians. I kid.

 

[Kelly]

noooo....nooooooo....noooooo.

1890's was when that great Republican *cough* Progressive *cough* Republican Teddy Roosevelt was getting on his roll towards the Presidency, that helped to start this whole freaking mess......So, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO don't want to go back there.

 

[DACrowe]

Teddy only became president because McKinley thought he was nuts and that after the Cuba craziness it would just simply be easier to control their party's mascot as a do-nothing VP. How did McKinley know an anarchist was going to blow him away a few months into his second term?

By luck of fortune it turns out Teddy was one of our five greatest presidents ever. But I suspect you may disagree.

In any case I picked the 1890s because it was the time before the "plunge" of progressivism. Reconstruction had ended. The presidency post-Johnson (Andrew, this time) was considerably weakened. Jim Crow and the South was overthrowing black rights established in Reconstruction and under the guise of States Rights were setting them up to be powerless for generations to come (there was actually a white race riot in Wilmington, NC in 1898 to throw out the black-friendly Republicans who won the election)--we were on the Gold Standard and Big Business was all-powerful with no oversight, regulation or even child safety laws.

If you view government as evil (or at least Federal government) and business, as well as (terrible) state laws as good...the 1890s should have been an awesome time to the libertarian mindset.

Now to people who like living in the 21st century....No way.

 

[enterthemadness]

It seems people who think the NWO or Illumintai are real, are people who would vote for Ron Paul. I may be wrong though. I do think the NWO is real on some level, but I dunno who I would vote for to stop it.

And isn't Ron Paul like 75? Is he in excellent health?

 

[Kelly]

Teddy only became president because McKinley thought he was nuts and that after the Cuba craziness it would just simply be easier to control their party's mascot as a do-nothing VP. How did McKinley know an anarchist was going to blow him away a few months into his second term?

By luck of fortune it turns out Teddy was one of our five greatest presidents ever. But I suspect you may disagree.

In any case I picked the 1890s because it was the time before the "plunge" of progressivism. Reconstruction had ended. The presidency post-Johnson (Andrew, this time) was considerably weakened. Jim Crow and the South was overthrowing black rights established in Reconstruction and under the guise of States Rights were setting them up to be powerless for generations to come (there was actually a white race riot in Wilmington, NC in 1898 to throw out the black-friendly Republicans who won the election)--we were on the Gold Standard and Big Business was all-powerful with no oversight, regulation or even child safety laws.

If you view government as evil (or at least Federal government) and business, as well as (terrible) state laws as good...the 1890s should have been an awesome time to the libertarian mindset.

Now to people who like living in the 21st century....No way.

And President Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize.....what can ya do?

Oh hell are you kidding....EVEN TODAY, with a Multi-racial President, I don't believe that Women OR Blacks are equal with the white boyz.....BY A LONG SHOT.....And I'm part of the freaking majority now......

And I don't view government as evil, I view government as stupid....