The Flash The Season 6 thread

[Web-Head]

Pretty much just a thread to discuss all things season 6. Where does the show go from here? Who'll be next season's "Big bad", what you want to see improved upon, etc.

Personally I thought it felt like Barry took a backseat this season so I'd like to see him back in the spotlight next year.

 

[flashpo1nt]

Pretty much just a thread to discuss all things season 6. Where does the show go from here? Who'll be next season's "Big bad", what you want to see improved upon, etc.

Personally I thought it felt like Barry took a backseat this season so I'd like to see him back in the spotlight next year.

I agree with your points on barry taking a backseat this season, when barry saves iris from samuroid...what did they say!? Wally says I've never gone that fast, the rest say nobody has, then afterwards wally says hate to admit but your the fastest speedster ever....RF speed shown in the early seasons would be faster than barry during that time, but not faster than zoom or savitar, and when barry defeated zoom he was running as fast keeping up and zoom was a speedster on roids, savitar was future flash more powerful and had tachyon tech on his suit, was even faster than zoom, flash defeated him as well.....then the big hole in the story, in the finale RF looks to be way faster than barry when it should be the other way around, you know considering barry bonded with the speedforce and stayed in there, its like the more evil ways you use the speedforce it caters to those and makes them more powerful then the hero version who stands to protect and fight for good reasons/causes...ridiculous if you ask me. It took the whole team to take down RF in the finale, and he still escaped, he was way ahead of nora and barry when they were chasing him (sure we can say barry probably wasn't trying to go his fastest) but even if thawne has much more experience using the speedforce and manipulating it you'd think the early season comments that barry could easily catch thawne without breaking a sweat, when instead the writers made barry look weak again.

Its like superman, just because your the most powerful doesn't mean you don't have to have weaknesses or have story lines where other aspects were used to bring down the hero...in other words they could've shown that barry was indeed way faster than thawne, however because thawne is clever and has more experience outwits barry by using certain moves/techniques when barry isn't expecting hurting/bring down the hero....there's many ways the hero can be shown to be the most powerful but still face challenges against the villains.

 

[Flash525]

Thanwe has to play a focal part in Season 6 as (at least one of) the main villains, right? I'm not even sure who else could be brought in as a major villain any more; short of a new group of rouges that are ongoing.

All of the primary Flash antagonists have either been seasonal villains already, or they've made episodic appearances and weren't considered big enough to be a larger threat. I figure there will be a strong emphasis in Season 6 of the Crisis Event and what that means for the future. We already know Ollie is exchanging places with Barry (and Kara) in that he'll be the one to disappear, we just don't know how, why, or where he'll end up (though it's implied he isn't actually dead).

One thing is for certain though, after the Crisis Event, I expect (and hope) the Arrowverse is a very different world. Maybe this'll be there chance to ret-con a lot of factors; they could even (re)introduce a version of Zoom, recast the rouges, and make the previously seen episodic antagonists a more viable threat.

 

[Prettyricky]

There kind of in a corner at this point story wise. It would make sense for barry to spend time running throughout time looking for thawne and maybe spend the first half of next year in the future up un til the crossover

 

[jolldan]

Yeah I agree Barry definitely took a back seat but I feel like they kinda had to do that so that Nora could shine. Did lead to a couple frustrating episodes where when it would start I would ask myself "What dumb way is the Flash gonna get taken out this time"

In terms of big bad I think there's a couple options.

1. I think they could go the route they've went 4 out of 5 times and introduce another speedster with Cobalt Blue. I would make it that somehow Eddy became CB and have him and Thawne be the main antagonists.
2. Unite the rogues and give us a proper rogues vs. The Flash season. You could have Mirror Master (imo the most criminally underused big Flash villain) power him up with the mirror gun, Weather Wizard could take his daughters staff as the two main leaders.

 

[Dark Raven]

All of the primary Flash antagonists have either been seasonal villains already, or they've made episodic appearances and weren't considered big enough to be a larger threat. I figure there will be a strong emphasis in Season 6 of the Crisis Event and what that means for the future. We already know Ollie is exchanging places with Barry (and Kara) in that he'll be the one to disappear, we just don't know how, why, or where he'll end up (though it's implied he isn't actually dead).

One thing is for certain though, after the Crisis Event, I expect (and hope) the Arrowverse is a very different world. Maybe this'll be there chance to ret-con a lot of factors; they could even (re)introduce a version of Zoom, recast the rouges, and make the previously seen episodic antagonists a more viable threat.

Cicada was definitely not big enough to be a larger threat. Yet somehow they still managed to stretch out the character when he/she should've just been maybe for a few episodes at most. Very dull villain. They could bring back one of the other villains who have been considered smaller and make them bigger. It might all depend on the writing. If time has been rewritten, maybe Godspeed could return in a larger capacity.

 

[jolldan]

Cicada was definitely not big enough to be a larger threat. Yet somehow they still managed to stretch out the character when he/she should've just been maybe for a few episodes at most. Very dull villain. They could bring back one of the other villains who have been considered smaller and make them bigger. It might all depend on the writing. If time has been rewritten, maybe Godspeed could return in a larger capacity.

I didn't know a thing about the character prior to this season but after reading the bio I think he could have been so much better if you had just went all the way and made him an old man who's motivation was trying to bring back his dead wife twinned with a fear of death.

Wish I hadn't read it now as its made me really feel the character was wasted lol.

 

[Flash525]

Cicada was definitely not big enough to be a larger threat. Yet somehow they still managed to stretch out the character when he/she should've just been maybe for a few episodes at most. Very dull villain. They could bring back one of the other villains who have been considered smaller and make them bigger. It might all depend on the writing. If time has been rewritten, maybe Godspeed could return in a larger capacity.

I think he could've been. He's a meta with the power to take away meta powers; that puts Barry in a dilemma straight off. All of the main villains of this show have had the potential for more. Thawne is the only one they've actually pulled that off with.

 

[Avenging Angel]

If they are trying to phase Barry out and bring in more useless plots and characters, they should just call it something other than Flash. I have no idea what is going on in the writer's room. I used to run to my screen every Tuesday and actually be entertained, can't do that anymore.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

If they are trying to phase Barry out and bring in more useless plots and characters, they should just call it something other than Flash. I have no idea what is going on in the writer's room. I used to run to my screen every Tuesday and actually be entertained, can't do that anymore.

This. The show’s become trash. It’s truly sad. Especially how the show doesn’t resonate from Barry anymore.

 

[WhoMani]

This. The show’s become trash. It’s truly sad. Especially how the show doesn’t resonate from Barry anymore.

I pretty much dropped the Flash which is a shame as I really enjoyed the first two seasons but now it feels like a badly written fan fiction. Barry feels like a supporting character in his own show and the fact they're rehashing the Reverse Flash storyline says a lot about the writers (The Reverse Flash is my fav villain in the Arrowverse but there's no where else to take the character unless they've decide to do a origin)

 

[Nicko-Ray]

I pretty much dropped the Flash which is a shame as I really enjoyed the first two seasons but now it feels like a badly written fan fiction. Barry feels like a supporting character in his own show and the fact they're rehashing the Reverse Flash storyline says a lot about the writers (The Reverse Flash is my fav villain in the Arrowverse but there's no where else to take the character unless they've decide to do a origin)

It's sad, man. And I actually like SOME of S3 -- I think there are some gem episodes in there, especially the mid-season finale. Barry feeling like a supporting character is the worst thing about it now -- the other B characters I'm not invested in at all to care too much about their arcs but they've put a lot of weight into. S1 handled it perfectly.

 

[jolldan]

It's sad, man. And I actually like SOME of S3 -- I think there are some gem episodes in there, especially the mid-season finale. Barry feeling like a supporting character is the worst thing about it now -- the other B characters I'm not invested in at all to care too much about their arcs but they've put a lot of weight into. S1 handled it perfectly.

Yeah people can say what they want about the reveal and how that season turned out but these were some epic moments and great episodes (I still think this was the last great season just not quite as good as one or two).

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Yeah people can say what they want about the reveal and how that season turned out but these were some epic moments and great episodes (I still think this was the last great season just not quite as good as one or two).

Ngl, I totally forgot about the Solovar moment.

I still think E309 is one of the Top 5 best FLASH episodes. Very well crafted. Very gripping. And fun. From the Earth-3 cameo in the beginning, to Jay taking on a supporting role, to the Julian reveal, Barry reveal, and of course, the jumping forward in time moment to see Iris's death was very emotionally well done. Wasn't it Rachel Talalay who directed? She's good.

 

[Avenging Angel]

Crisis is their last ditch effort to gain the views back they continue to insult. Crisis was something they were going to save for Flash's series finale. Interesting how it's one of the biggest comics stories and yet they are choosing to do it mid-season, Arrow aside.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

Crisis is their last ditch effort to gain the views back they continue to insult. Crisis was something they were going to save for Flash's series finale. Interesting how it's one of the biggest comics stories and yet they are choosing to do it mid-season, Arrow aside.

I'm sure that Arrow ending is the primary reason Crisis was moved up. Stephen's desire to leave likely made them realize that Grant could do the same someday, so better to do this now while they've also got the Arrow cast, too, Stephen in particular. I'm sure it has absolutely nil to do with bringing viewers back.

 

[WhoMani]

Crisis is their last ditch effort to gain the views back they continue to insult. Crisis was something they were going to save for Flash's series finale. Interesting how it's one of the biggest comics stories and yet they are choosing to do it mid-season, Arrow aside.

To be fair, the writers always intended to do the Crisis since The Flash season one. I guess they felt this was the right time do it since Arrow is ending and that they perhaps felt that the Crisis will bring closure to Oliver Queen.

 

[Gee]

‘The Flash’: Sendhil Ramamurthy To Play DC Villain Bloodwork – Deadline

 

[Pennywise]

The Flash Introduces New Villain Bloodwork As Totally Different Kind Of Big Bad

Eric Wallace spoke to CinemaBlend and other outlets at SDCC round tables about how "Crisis" enabled the Flash team to handle its season in a new way, saying this:

I think 'Crisis' happening when it's happening now has turned out to be the biggest blessing for this show possible. Because what it's doing for us is we have something that has to be dealt with in the middle of our season. We know when it's going to air, in the fall, in December, whenever it is. So we have to draw towards that. So it gave us a season that wrote very neatly into kind of three sections.


The Flash (along with the other shows of the Arrow-verse, following the precedent set by Arrow way back when) generally features a midseason finale with a cliffhanger to keep fans on the edges of their seats throughout hiatus, but keeping the same bad guy.

Thanks to "Crisis on Infinite Earths," The Flash Season 6 can be split into three sections, and considering how "Crisis" will be split between fall and midseason, the normal midseason finale format wouldn't work.


If knowing that the season will be split into three isn't enough for you, Eric Wallace continued to share some of what to expect in each stage:

Pre-Crisis, building up to the dread that's hanging over them, what's going to happen, and where's The Monitor, and what is he going to promise or not promise, what's going to happen to Oliver. All these things, and then Crisis itself, which is its own self-contained kind of miniseries. But what it did for us was what's post-Crisis even look like? We've been waiting for five and a half years with this newspaper, holographic thing hanging over us. We'll work here now. It's not 2024, it's 2019. Once we get past that, it's a whole new game. It's a whole new world. I'm a very comic book geeky guy, so let the geeky comic book games begin, starting in post-Crisis. And I think you're going to see that in Season 6. A little bit more of a comic book feel, while also deepening the character.

SDCC: The Flash crew reveal Bloodwork as Season 6 big bad and tease Crisis set-up

"We've made it to Season 6 and figured let's kick it up a notch. In the past we've done 22 episodes with one big bad, but now we're going to take those 22 episodes and divide it up into two 'graphic novels,'" Wallace explained. "Graphic novel No. 1 will be about Bloodwork, then we'll have Crisis as an interlude. Then in the back half there's a completely different self-contained story with a different big bad."

 

[Babillygunn]

It’s funny. The Flash has been the most disappointing comic in Rebirth imo. Then they choose one of the worst villains to be introduced post Rebirth as the big bad. This is especially dumb in light of their dismissal of Godspeed last season.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

It’s been what, a month or so now and there hasn’t been any paparazzi photos of the new suit while filming on location or anything. Strange

 

[Flash525]

It’s funny. The Flash has been the most disappointing comic in Rebirth imo. Then they choose one of the worst villains to be introduced post Rebirth as the big bad. This is especially dumb in light of their dismissal of Godspeed last season.

Isn't Godspeed set to return in the new season though?

 

[batdude]

Yup Godspeed is coming back!

 

[Babillygunn]

I hadn’t heard that. But it doesn’t fix the fact that what makes Godspeed good is his origin. They made him a generic speedster.

I’ll give Bloodwork a chance but he was a terrible comic villain.

 

[Web-Head]

I hadn’t heard that. But it doesn’t fix the fact that what makes Godspeed good is his origin. They made him a generic speedster.

I’ll give Bloodwork a chance but he was a terrible comic villain.

Luckily Bloodwork is only the villain for the first part of the season. It'll be someone else after Crisis