The Squared Circle

[Warhammer]

Those Brooke pics are HOT! :heart:

The new plan is for Cena to actually kill Orton. He will get him in the **** and break his neck for real.

That is the most hilarious thing that I've seen all night.
Haha.

 

[Fading]

Thank you Cage for the early Christmas gift t:.

Seriously...I think that's the hottest Brooke's ever looked hands down.

 

[NDX]

Misawa + ROH (in NYC) + NDX =

 

[NDX]

ROH Results from Manhattan:

1) Matt Cross & Erick Stevens d. Jigsaw & Mike Quackenbush.
Really fun opener. Need to see Jigsaw and Quack become ROH regulars.

(2) Jimmy Jacobs d. Mitch Franklin.
Huge pop for the returning to NYC of Jacobs. Not a total squash as Franklin got some nice offense in.

(3) BJ Whitmer, Adam Pearce and Brent Albright d. Delirious, Pelle Primeau and Nigel McGuinness.
Holy ****. Beautiful and brutal match. Pelle has some real nice offence, Nigel ripped people's heads off, Delirious has a creep El Generico like beard, Pearce cut a good promo, Whitmer look violent and Albright is God. Seriously, God. He needs to throw around more people. This might lead to the Project161 (which were giving out free shirts and dvds before the show).

(4) Davey Raichards d. Pac.
Worst match of the night. Davey looked like he halfassed the whole match and PAC is just a glorified Kenny G lookin' spotmonkey.

- Misuharu Misawa was officially announced as appearing on 11/2 in Philly and 11/3 in NYC!
AND I'LL BE THERE IN NYC!

(5) Austin Aries d. Roderick Strong and Jack Evans in a 3 way.
- Ruckus and Julius Smokes showed up as the first two members of Evan's new faction "The Vulture Squad".
This feud is getting fun. After the ref is taken out by Aries, Rucku scomes down and gets involved, bringing out ChooChoo Eric Stevens, M-Dogg Matt Cross and Davey Richards.

INTERMISSION
So damn hot in the venue.

(6) Ruckus d. Eddie Edwards.
Bit spot-riffic, but Ruckus looked crisp the whole time and Edwards looked like a dime store Davey Boy Smith, but wasn't bad in the ring.

(7) Claudio Castagnoli d. Chris Hero with the Ricola Bomb.
Remember when the Mega Powers exploded. This was shadowed by the detonation of Kings of Wrestling. A match I thoroughly enjoyed. Bobby Dempsey received his own chants.

(8) ROH World Champion Takeshi Morishima d. Bryan Danielson via the Backdrop Driver to retain his title
This match was a sad 18 minutes. Otherwise, ****ing beautiful. Want more.

(9) ROH World Tag Team Champions The Briscoes d. Kevin Steel and El Generico in a Two of Three Falls match to retain their titles. The Briscoes won two straight falls.
I'm pissed about this. Not at the match, because it was magnificant, but the fact that the Briscoes can't be beat. Steen and Generico should have won one fall, but just couldn't get it done. Post match saw the challengers attack the champs with a ladder and steal the titles.

Front row Balcony cost $75 a ticket. The seats are beautiful. Won't miss a damn thing.

 

[NDX]

- Marcus Cor Von is officially on a leave of absense from WWE. He was forced to take time off to take care of his nieces and nephews due to problems within the family.

- Konnan's doctors believe the wrestler has a 90% of chance his anti-rejection medicine will be successful, following his recent kidney transplant surgery. However, the drugs given to Konnan carry a risk of side effects such as birth defects if he were to father a child (he and his wife have been talking about starting a family). There is also an increasing risk of cancer by undergoing the treatment.

- TNA has secured a two hour time slot with Spike TV, but the network has given the promotion a condition - the wrestling company must purchase HD equipment, as Spike TV will be upgrading to HD broadcasting by 2009. TNA is apparently putting up resistance to the condition as the current contract is set to expire at the end of September. Spike TV has previously provided funding to TNA, such as contributing money to bring Sting to TNA, but the cable network hasn’t been open to providing addition financing for the purchase of HD equipment for the promotion.

(source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter)

 

[DX]

*passes out and gets back up again*

I'm in love.

 

[DX]

:heart: :heart:

 

[The Sage]

Major SummerSlam Spoilers (Part One)

- The original plan for John Cena vs. Randy Orton for the WWE Title was to see a title change. The general feeling is that the Jersey crowd will be very pro-Orton in this match, with Cena still having pockets of fans in attendance regardless.

- Reports on Triple H have him coming in at 250 pounds, which is a lot lighter since the last he came back from his quad injury. He is expected to get a huge reaction since they have kept him off TV doing the King Booker angle.

- At this point, the general feeling is that any match The Great Khali takes part in on live TV is a huge risk. Despite what many think, it is possible they could still keep the belt off of Batista to continue the feud.

- Expect Rey Mysterio to also get a big reaction for his return in his match against Chavo Guerrero.

1) Yes, Orton win!

2) This is good news. I'm hoping this means HHH isn't juicing, that he's in great shape in terms of cardio and physique, and that he can move around easily.

3) I could've told you that.

4) Good.

And those Joe comments...dang that's really saying something.

 

[nite-owl]

ROH Results from Manhattan:

1) Matt Cross & Erick Stevens d. Jigsaw & Mike Quackenbush.

(2) Jimmy Jacobs d. Mitch Franklin.

(3) BJ Whitmer, Adam Pearce and Brent Albright d. Delirious, Pelle Primeau and Nigel McGuinness.

(4) Davey Raichards d. Pac.

- Misuharu Misawa was officially announced as appearing on 11/2 in Philly and 11/3 in NYC!

(5) Austin Aries d. Roderick Strong and Jack Evans in a 3 way.

- Ruckus and Julius Smokes showed up as the first two members of Evan's new faction "The Vulture Squad".

INTERMISSION

(6) Ruckus d. Eddie Edwards.

(7) Claudio Castagnoli d. Chris Hero with the Ricola Bomb.

(8) ROH World Champion Takeshi Morishima d. Bryan Danielson via the Backdrop Driver to retain his title

(9) ROH World Tag Team Champions The Briscoes d. Kevin Steel and El Generico in a Two of Three Falls match to retain their titles. The Briscoes won two straight falls.

I just ordered one of ROH's grab bags. Has anyone else ordered them, and if so, what did you get?

The grab bags you get a straight shootin dvd but don't quote me on that.

Booooooo!!! PAC you let Newcastle down. Davey Richards sucks so much it disgusts me.

I heard Misawa will face Chris Hero although it hasn't been confirmed.

I'm glad Smokes is back in ROH. I've heard good things about Ruckus, The Vulture Squad is an odd name though.

El Steenerico better win the tag titles by the end of the year.

NDX, have you heard it's Danielson/Albright in the N.W.A title tournament finale.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Partial Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

The Smackdown vs. Raw 2008 video game may miss its November deadline as Vince McMahon is going back and forth about whether to leave Chris Benoit in the game. The designers haven't completely removed Benoit from the game yet and Vince wants him out obviously. However, if they remove him, it would require the game to be delayed and they'd miss out on the 2007 holiday season revenue, which is always the most lucrative quarter for video games.
.

hmm take few months delay on a game that's guaranteed to sell, or get it out on time and have everyone looking for your hide cause it features a murderer. hmmm tough choice

 

[Carp Man]

Exactly. Seems like the only time an opinion is accepted around here is when it's praising Vince and the WWE. The WWE is in a sorry state in terms of quality storytelling, quality matches, and quality feuds that can make someone interested in the product.

The ratings show a decline and Vince thinks it's because he's not on television? Please. WWE hasn't been the same since they bought ECW and WCW. Personally I feel WWE's recent best product was when Edge was champion, Jeff Hardy was intercontinental champion, and so forth. I will admit that if I were the owner of the WWE I'd push guys like Jeff Hardy, Shelton Benjamin, Kennedy, MVP, Orton, Carlito, Charlie Haas, CM Punk, and Londrick as the future of the WWE instead of forcing Cena down everyones throats.

Carp, keep speaking your mind. There's nothing wrong with having an informative opinion and you have a very clear precise opinion.

They are not going to silence me, or keep me from speaking my mind. All they want to talk about here is divas, ( cool ), and how great everything is in the WWE. They need to take off the rose collored glasses, and see the sorry state the WWE is in. Like I said, I love wrestling. For 4 decades it gave me a great deal of enjoyment, and entertainment. I speak from knowledge, not thru my rear end. Where is the Rick Flair, The Undertaker, the Hogan, The "Macho Man", the Sting's, the Lugars of the future ? Orton, Edge, and Cena have the most potential out there. The others you have mentioned all have potential, but the people in development, the creative writers, the bookers, have no clue how to put it all together. It's like a chineese fire drill. I see greatness in Orton, if he can just get his head straight. He's got it all. Carisma, youth, looks, and he can wrestle. I just want to see wrestling get back to a semblence of the greatness it once had during those 3 decades. They need to get rid of ECW. Stick with Raw, and SmackDown. Divide the talent between the 2. Get writers, creative team, bookers, road agents, with some imaganation, and forsight. Then we would see something. There's a wealth of talent going to waste. It's there, but somebody has to figure out how to mesh it all together. Give me another Bischoff. When he ran Nitro, it beat Raw 84 weeks in a row. To coin his phrase, "God that's good TV". What wrestling needs is a faction like the 4 Horsman, The NWO, The Million Dollar Corporation with Ted DiBiasi running it. There has not been a great faction in wrestling since the NWO. Everyone is doing their own thing today. Vince is in my opinion the George Steinbrenner of wrestling. He's too hands on. He needs to step back, count his money, hire fresh, new people who know the business, and let them run it. ( Steps off soapbox ).

 

[Twitch]

Are you two so ****ing blind that you can't ****ing read?

We are not kissing Vince's ass, (really its you Carp Man since you basically talk about him in almost all your posts) We don't think everything WWE turns to gold. I don't know what HR or NDX think, but I am personally not a fan of the Vince's child angle but hey it will give Mr. Kennedy a career so it will work out in the long run. Personally I would love for you to book WWE with all your favorites on top and then I will laugh and laugh when it all fails. You guys are ****ing pathetic.

 

[Carp Man]

Are you two so ****ing blind that you can't ****ing read?

We are not kissing Vince's ass, (really its you Carp Man since you basically talk about him in almost all your posts) We don't think everything WWE turns to gold. I don't know what HR or NDX think, but I am personally not a fan of the Vince's child angle but hey it will give Mr. Kennedy a career so it will work out in the long run. Personally I would love for you to book WWE with all your favorites on top and then I will laugh and laugh when it all fails. You guys are ****ing pathetic.

Thank you for that informative opinion. I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot poll. I don't know enough about what goes on behind the scenes to even begin to have a clue, but I know from over 40 years of watching what has worked in the past, and that same formula that worked in the past, would work now. A strong faction is what is needed to bring unity to the WWE. Vince needs to step back. ECW has to go. New blood behind the scenes is needed. Everyone backstage is on different pages, and each have their own ideas, their own agendas, and their personnal biases. You need 1 who knows the business, and has a proven track record to run both Raw, and SmackDown A Bischoff type is that man. You have no clue. What they did when they brought back ECW was great. They meshed the 2, crossmatched them. That was the perfect oportunity to do something great, but they stopped it, and missed an oportunity. It kind of reminded me of the Outsiders, that lead to the NWO. Missed oportunity. It was like when Luke was raising his ship out of the water, and the expression on Yoda's face. His eyes getting wide. That was me. I thought they hit upon the answer, but allas it was all an illusion.

 

[strikezone89]

hey hey hey let's stop fighting or a mod will have to give you guys a time out

 

[DX]

hey hey hey let's stop fighting or a mod will have to give you guys a time out

HIGH FIVE!!! t:

 

[Hunter Rider]

Are you two so ****ing blind that you can't ****ing read?

We are not kissing Vince's ass, (really its you Carp Man since you basically talk about him in almost all your posts) We don't think everything WWE turns to gold. I don't know what HR or NDX think, but I am personally not a fan of the Vince's child angle but hey it will give Mr. Kennedy a career so it will work out in the long run. Personally I would love for you to book WWE with all your favorites on top and then I will laugh and laugh when it all fails. You guys are ****ing pathetic.

Most of us agree that the illegitimate son angle is annoying and only useful if it gets Kennedy centre stage but Last Sunrise and Carpy don't actually read any posts or watch the shows they simply come in here to stand on a soap box and proclaim themselves kings of booking.
The rest of us give balanced opinions, we don't just trash everything, oh and as for the ratings they were actual;ly really high back in April with the HBK/Cena feud and then Benoit murdered his wife and son and hung himself, yeah i'm sure that would have not effected ratings if Jeff Hardy had been champion or if Londrick replaced Cena

 

[Carp Man]

Most of us agree that the illegitimate son angle is annoying and only useful if it gets Kennedy centre stage but Last Sunrise and Carpy don't actually read any posts or watch the shows they simply come in here to stand on a soap box and proclaim themselves kings of booking.
The rest of us give balanced opinions, we don't just trash everything, oh and as for the ratings they were actual;ly really high back in April with the HBK/Cena feud and then Benoit murdered his wife and son and hung himself, yeah i'm sure that would have not effected ratings if Jeff Hardy had been champion or if Londrick replaced Cena

And I'll keep standing on the soapbox till things get better. I may be a lone wolf, but hell, I've been there before, done that. Whose trashing everything ? There are a few bright spots, but not enough to get my attention. Not enough to bring wrestling back from the brink where Vince has taken it. And nothing will change till Vince steps back. I agree the HBK/Cena feude was exciting. As was the Edge/Cena feude. Best in a long time. I wish they had taken the HBK/Edge feude a bit further. There's hope. A strong faction is what is needed. It worked before, and it would work again. Factions back in the 70's, 80's, and 90's keep wrestling on top of it's game. You have HBK/Cena here. HBK/Edge there. Cena /Edge over there, but nothing that is exploding on the scene like the NWO. Nothing grabbing you by the balls and saying watch. It's there. I see it, but noone knows how to bring it about. Another NWO faction type is needed. The NWO EXPLOADED on the scene, and grabbed your attention. You can ignore it all you want, you can say I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but you'll see.

 

[Hunter Rider]

And I'll keep standing on the soapbox till things get better. Whose trashing everything ? There are a few bright spots, but not enough to get my attention. Not enough to bring wrestling back from the brink where Vince has taken it. And nothing will change till Vince steps back. I agree the HBK/Cena feude was exciting. As was the Edge/Cena feude. Best in a long time. I wish they had taken the HBK/Edge feude a bit further. There's hope. A strong faction is what is needed. It worked before, and it would work again. Factions back in the 70's, 80's, and 90's keep wrestling on top of it's game. You have HBK/Cena here. HBK/Edge there. Cena /Edge over there, but nothing that is exploding on the scene like the NWO. Nothing grabbing you by the balls and saying watch. Another NWO faction type is needed. The NWO EXPLOADED on the scene, and grabbed your attention. You can ignore it all you want, you can say I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but you'll see.

Standing on a soap box when you don't even watch the show makes your posts ignorant and invalid and your lame idea of going back to factions where there is no wrestling just gang run ins like in the NWO days when it was all story and no decent wrestling shows why you are wrong, in 2000 and 2002 when WWE was doing outstanding work there were no sad little groups with second rate acts leeching off big names to get matches, the last group that worked was Evolution and it was strong during 2003 which was a **** year for wrestling, the one before that was the Invasion angle in 2001 and that sucked complete ass, so no, we won't see you're right.

 

[Carp Man]

Standing on a soap box when you don't even watch the show makes your posts ignorant and invalid and your lame idea of going back to factions where there is no wrestling just gang run ins like in the NWO days when it was all story and no decent wrestling shows why you are wrong, in 2000 and 2002 when WWE was doing outstanding work there were no sad little groups with second rate acts leeching off big names to get matches, the last group that worked was Evolution and it was strong during 2003 which was a **** year for wrestling, the one before that was the Invasion angle in 2001 and that sucked complete ass, so no, we won't see you're right.

Well what the hell do you have now ? At least then week after week it was exciting, and entertaining. It's all show now, and not very good at that. Sure the NWO was all show, but it beat Raw 84 weeks straight. That's what the fans want. The days of 95 % wrestling matches, and 5 % promotion are long gone. I don't watch the shows because it is absoultly dispictible what has become of the entertainment value of wrestling. You show your lack of understanding. Second rate acts ? Those 2nd rate acts all came together to make one hell of a show. I'll put WCW's roster then against the WWE roster now, and WWE would not hold a candel to WCW. They were vetrens, and knew what the hell they were doing. The vetrens today in WWE could not carry their jock straps. Cena, Orton, Edge, Lashley, Lesner, none of them. The Undertaker is the exception. He's the only wrestler on WWE's roster that could be on the WCW roster, of that time. You had Hogan, Hall, Nash, Flair, Sting, Lugar, the 4 Horsemen. Get a grip on reality.

 

[The FallenAngel]

You don't watch the shows? So why the hell are you talking at all, Carp? Your posts mean nothing if you don't even watch and show to give an opinion on.

 

[Carp Man]

You don't watch the shows? So why the hell are you talking at all, Carp? Your posts mean nothing if you don't even watch and show to give an opinion on.

I give my opinion weekly. And from what I have read, nothing has changed. The only thing that would make me watch Summer Slam is the Orton/Cena match, and I'm not about to pay whatever the hell it cost these days to watch 1 match, especially when I can get the results on the internet. The illligit thing stinks. It may turn out well, it may help Mr. Kennedy, which would be a positive step, but I have no desire to watch another McManhon/HHH feude again. The 1st was pretty good, especially when it ended with Vinces head up Big Shows ass. I've been watching wrestling for over 40 years. So I know what the hell I'm talking about, and I know the greatness that once was wrestling. I want it to get back to that point, but it won't happen as long as Vince has complete control, and they don't pair it down to 2 brands. Raw, and SmackDown. Another problem is, HHH has too much of Stephs ear. I remember when HHH was talking about he and Steph getting married, and Vince thought it was not a good idea for the business. It seems now he knew what he was talking about. I think it is getting time for Vince to step aside, and let Shane take over. Bright, fresh blood. New ideas.

 

[kane9321]

what a sexy pose

 

[DX]

She's my new favourite diva. :heart:

 

[Hunter Rider]

Well what the hell do you have now ? At least then week after week it was exciting, and entertaining. It's all show now, and not very good at that. Sure the NWO was all show, but it beat Raw 84 weeks straight. That's what the fans want. The days of 95 % wrestling matches, and 5 % promotion are long gone. I don't watch the shows because it is absoultly dispictible what has become of the entertainment value of wrestling. You show your lack of understanding. Second rate acts ? Those 2nd rate acts all came together to make one hell of a show. I'll put WCW's roster then against the WWE roster now, and WWE would not hold a candel to WCW. They were vetrens, and knew what the hell they were doing. The vetrens today in WWE could not carry their jock straps. Cena, Orton, Edge, Lashley, Lesner, none of them. The Undertaker is the exception. He's the only wrestler on WWE's roster that could be on the WCW roster, of that time. You had Hogan, Hall, Nash, Flair, Sting, Lugar, the 4 Horsemen. Get a grip on reality.

It lasted 84 weeks and where is that show now big time ? oh yeah it sank b/c that gimmick ran it's course and Vince bought them like 2 dollar ****es by creating fresh exciting talent like Austin, Foley, Rock, HHH etc.... and the roster back then was full of ****, the best workers on the show were the Cruiserweights, Benoit and DDP, Sting was a good athlete and Flair an icon but Hall sucks, Nash is a lazy old fart that sucked the right ass in HBK and Hogan to get his spot, Luger sucked from day one and Hogan is like a cancer, why don't you try getting a grip.

The roster WWE had at that time with HBK, Taker, Mankind, Bulldog, Austin, Bret totally smoked that sack of crap that was held together not by talent but by a gimmick in the NWO that succeeded b/c kayfabe was in tact and enough keg swilling yanks thought it was real

WWE's current roster of HBK, Taker, HHH, Cena, Edge, Orton and Booker completely owns the has beens from that era, Sting and Flair would be the only guys to get a place, Hogan has survived all this time b/c of the 80's nostalgia.....to quote Cornette, "hogan is a household name but so is garbage and it stinks when it gets old as well".

 

[Twitch]

I hate Hogan, but I was a mark during his run in '02