The Dark Knight The Story So Far

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Those of you who used to frequent TheForce.Net, which has a tenous link to CominSoon.Net, the Hype's "sister" site, might remember a feature they used to do during the development of the last two prequels where they gathered all the rumours and tried to come up with the respective plots of the films in question. Considering the proliferation of rumours, set reports and pictures/footage, I thought it might be a good idea to do something similar so that we have one central thread where we can try and outline the general plot of the film. It might be a bit redundant at first, but, after every major spoiler or so, we can update the overall plot to try and see where we are.

Here is my attempt. Feel free to fill in the gaps - there will be many. Since there is not one central site that collects all rumours in an orderly fashion (how BoF can call itself the premier Bat-movie news site yet refrain, arrogantly, from posting any spoilers they come across is bewildering), there might be few spoilers that I missed.

Once again, this might feel a bit redundant at first, but, the more we know, the more specific the thread, and the plot, will be.

The film starts off where the previous one left off. There is a new major villain on the loose who calls himself The Joker. Fairly early on in the movie, he and his cronies pull off a major bank heist which involves driving a school bus into the building, and ends with the shooting dead of the bank manager. Batman interceps the event yet the Joker manages to get away (I am slightly dubious about this - they filmed this in daylight, and I could not spot any day-for-night filters on the cameras. Does Batman operate during the day, too?).

Meanwhile, there is a new district attorney called Harvey Dent who might or might not be going out with Rachel Dawes. Like his predecessor before him, he is trying to bring to justice a Gotham crime lord called Sal Maroni, and he is in a clandestine league with Batman and Jim Gordon to do so. His alliance with Batman is tested during at least one scene on the rooftop with the Batsignal where the two meet.

We are still not clear about the Joker's true intentions. However, his homicidal nature is complemented, as in his first comic book appearance, with a lust for cash or jewels or whatever it is he's trying to get his hands on. I have a feeling that his apparent psychosis will, at least initially, be a cover to his larger ambitions to steal a huge amount of loot of some sorts (kind of like Hans Gruber in Die Hard). At one point in the film, he probably comes into contact with the Scarecrow (if that is indeed him on that footage - and it seems likely). It seems logical that he works with the Scarecrow, if only briefly maybe, to fashion his laugh toxin.

Bruce Wayne, who is living in a Gotham penthouse while his manor is being rebuilt, will also be up to his usual playboy shenanigans - during one interlude, having a Bolshoi ballet performance cancelled when he holds a party on his boat for the cast. He also holds a party at his penthouse for Gotham's glitterati, which is crashed by The Joker and his thugs. The Joker asks for Batman to reveal himself, which is when Harvey Dent falsely claims that he is Batman (I am Spartacus), only to be hidden in a closet by Bruce Wayne, who summarily makes an appearance as his alter-ego. A fracas ensues, and it is safe to say that the Joker, once again, manages to get away.

The Joker's piece de resistance, and the film's finale, seems to involve his threatening Gotham in a way that involves, possibly, the releasing to the air of his toxin. There is a mass exodus from the city inviolving two boats, one full of criminals (and, possibly, the general populace of the Narrows), and the other full of Gotham's more affluent denizens. The Joker claims both boats are rigged with explosives, and dares the authorities to blow up one boat, lest they want him to destroy both. We won't know the outcome, but the final confrontation with Batman seems to be set against this tense backdrop.

Of course, there are huge gaps here. Sal Maroni's role in the proceedings; what Jim Gordon gets up to; what about Alfred or Rachel, etc., etc. Feel free to fill in the missing pieces.
 
Cool gathering of all the info so far..

I think the first robbery scene might actually be the double homicide gordon talked about at the end of BB.
 
Cool gathering of all the info so far..

I think the first robbery scene might actually be the double homicide gordon talked about at the end of BB.

I could see that.

"Take this guy, armed robbery, double homicide."
 
I thought Goyer had said that The Joker's intentions were to start a gang war?
 
The film starts off where the previous one left off. There is a new major villain on the loose who calls himself The Joker. Fairly early on in the movie, he and his cronies pull off a major bank heist which involves driving a school bus into the building, and ends with the shooting dead of the bank manager.

The bank is laundering money for the Falcone family, Joker's intentions with the bank are related to this. The Joker gets away in the bus, later in the day SWAT find one of the buses, there's a hostage situation

Meanwhile, there is a new district attorney called Harvey Dent who might or might not be going out with Rachel Dawes. Like his predecessor before him, he is trying to bring to justice a Gotham crime lord called Sal Maroni, and he is in a clandestine league with Batman and Jim Gordon to do so. His alliance with Batman is tested during at least one scene on the rooftop with the Batsignal where the two meet.

Sal Maroni is struggling to maintain power with a new brand of freaks entering the vacuum left by Falcone. Scarecrow, Joker?, the Chechens, and probably a few others cause a gang war.


We are still not clear about the Joker's true intentions. However, his homicidal nature is complemented, as in his first comic book appearance, with a lust for cash or jewels or whatever it is he's trying to get his hands on. I have a feeling that his apparent psychosis will, at least initially, be a cover to his larger ambitions to steal a huge amount of loot of some sorts (kind of like Hans Gruber in Die Hard). At one point in the film, he probably comes into contact with the Scarecrow (if that is indeed him on that footage - and it seems likely). It seems logical that he works with the Scarecrow, if only briefly maybe, to fashion his laugh toxin.

Bruce Wayne, who is living in a Gotham penthouse while his manor is being rebuilt, will also be up to his usual playboy shenanigans - during one interlude, having a Bolshoi ballet performance cancelled when he holds a party on his boat for the cast. He also holds a party at his penthouse for Gotham's glitterati, which is crashed by The Joker and his thugs. The Joker asks for Batman to reveal himself, which is when Harvey Dent falsely claims that he is Batman (I am Spartacus), only to be hidden in a closet by Bruce Wayne, who summarily makes an appearance as his alter-ego. A fracas ensues, and it is safe to say that the Joker, once again, manages to get away.

Joker gives Gotham an ultimatum, give me Batman or he'll kill the high-society of Gotham. The announcement happens on a TV show the Mayor is appearing on? Joker blows a mall up, this causes the panic?

The Joker's piece de resistance, and the film's finale, seems to involve his threatening Gotham in a way that involves, possibly, the releasing to the air of his toxin.

There is a mass exodus from the city inviolving two boats, one full of criminals (and, possibly, the general populace of the Narrows), and the other full of Gotham's more affluent denizens. The Joker claims both boats are rigged with explosives, and dares the authorities to blow up one boat, lest they want him to destroy both. We won't know the outcome, but the final confrontation with Batman seems to be set against this tense backdrop.

Of course, there are huge gaps here. Sal Maroni's role in the proceedings; what Jim Gordon gets up to; what about Alfred or Rachel, etc., etc. Feel free to fill in the missing pieces.

I added a few bits
 
How do you know there's money laundering, I don't remember that. Educated guess, you wily old dog?
 
You got me, it's a guess. Fits with TLH nicely, and in the sides the bank manager asks if Joker knows who he's stealing from, then starts speechifying about the good old days of criminality
 
Did these "The Story So Far"s tend to be accurate predictions of the movie's plot?
 
well you've omitted any mention of the Scarecrow. isn't there a new drug on the streets based on a diluted version of his fear toxin? the meeting at the garage with his gang and the Chechan gang could be a drug deal with Scarecrow's gang selling their product to the Chechans when the copycat vigilante appears and fails in his attempt to stop them. then Bats arrives to save the vigilante and break the deal up?
Does the Joker enlist Scarecrow's help in formulating his own version of the gas to use in the final act?
 
You got me, it's a guess. Fits with TLH nicely, and in the sides the bank manager asks if Joker knows who he's stealing from, then starts speechifying about the good old days of criminality

yea that also made me think the bank manager has ties to the mob.
 
well you've omitted any mention of the Scarecrow. isn't there a new drug on the streets based on a diluted version of his fear toxin? the meeting at the garage with his gang and the Chechan gang could be a drug deal with Scarecrow's gang selling their product to the Chechans when the copycat vigilante appears and fails in his attempt to stop them. then Bats arrives to save the vigilante and break the deal up?
Does the Joker enlist Scarecrow's help in formulating his own version of the gas to use in the final act?

It's really likely to be a drug thing, fits in nicely with Joker, Crane and Batman supposedly being chemistry proficient. I can't remember if it's actually been reported by anyone though. The people suffering from some kind of ill-effects definitely sounds drugish. There's also that dealer side mentioning inflation, so their supply probably gets messed with
 
cool, nice write up Ned
 
I still think the scarecrow adapts his fear gas for joker to laughting gas.
 
Those of you who used to frequent TheForce.Net, which has a tenous link to CominSoon.Net, the Hype's "sister" site, might remember a feature they used to do during the development of the last two prequels where they gathered all the rumours and tried to come up with the respective plots of the films in question. Considering the proliferation of rumours, set reports and pictures/footage, I thought it might be a good idea to do something similar so that we have one central thread where we can try and outline the general plot of the film. It might be a bit redundant at first, but, after every major spoiler or so, we can update the overall plot to try and see where we are.

Here is my attempt. Feel free to fill in the gaps - there will be many. Since there is not one central site that collects all rumours in an orderly fashion (how BoF can call itself the premier Bat-movie news site yet refrain, arrogantly, from posting any spoilers they come across is bewildering), there might be few spoilers that I missed.

Once again, this might feel a bit redundant at first, but, the more we know, the more specific the thread, and the plot, will be.

The film starts off where the previous one left off. There is a new major villain on the loose who calls himself The Joker. Fairly early on in the movie, he and his cronies pull off a major bank heist which involves driving a school bus into the building, and ends with the shooting dead of the bank manager. Batman interceps the event yet the Joker manages to get away (I am slightly dubious about this - they filmed this in daylight, and I could not spot any day-for-night filters on the cameras. Does Batman operate during the day, too?).

Meanwhile, there is a new district attorney called Harvey Dent who might or might not be going out with Rachel Dawes. Like his predecessor before him, he is trying to bring to justice a Gotham crime lord called Sal Maroni, and he is in a clandestine league with Batman and Jim Gordon to do so. His alliance with Batman is tested during at least one scene on the rooftop with the Batsignal where the two meet.

We are still not clear about the Joker's true intentions. However, his homicidal nature is complemented, as in his first comic book appearance, with a lust for cash or jewels or whatever it is he's trying to get his hands on. I have a feeling that his apparent psychosis will, at least initially, be a cover to his larger ambitions to steal a huge amount of loot of some sorts (kind of like Hans Gruber in Die Hard). At one point in the film, he probably comes into contact with the Scarecrow (if that is indeed him on that footage - and it seems likely). It seems logical that he works with the Scarecrow, if only briefly maybe, to fashion his laugh toxin.

Bruce Wayne, who is living in a Gotham penthouse while his manor is being rebuilt, will also be up to his usual playboy shenanigans - during one interlude, having a Bolshoi ballet performance cancelled when he holds a party on his boat for the cast. He also holds a party at his penthouse for Gotham's glitterati, which is crashed by The Joker and his thugs. The Joker asks for Batman to reveal himself, which is when Harvey Dent falsely claims that he is Batman (I am Spartacus), only to be hidden in a closet by Bruce Wayne, who summarily makes an appearance as his alter-ego. A fracas ensues, and it is safe to say that the Joker, once again, manages to get away.

The Joker's piece de resistance, and the film's finale, seems to involve his threatening Gotham in a way that involves, possibly, the releasing to the air of his toxin. There is a mass exodus from the city inviolving two boats, one full of criminals (and, possibly, the general populace of the Narrows), and the other full of Gotham's more affluent denizens. The Joker claims both boats are rigged with explosives, and dares the authorities to blow up one boat, lest they want him to destroy both. We won't know the outcome, but the final confrontation with Batman seems to be set against this tense backdrop.

Of course, there are huge gaps here. Sal Maroni's role in the proceedings; what Jim Gordon gets up to; what about Alfred or Rachel, etc., etc. Feel free to fill in the missing pieces.

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Yer missing a hostage situation which most likely a continuation of the bank robbery. in the sides a SWAT leader and Gordon stand next a recovered schoolbus. It will probaly be night by then so that solves the issues of Batman showing up and maybe even scarring jokers face in the same scene.


The National Guard comes in somewhere too. Probably around the evacuation.
 
Those of you who used to frequent TheForce.Net, which has a tenous link to CominSoon.Net, the Hype's "sister" site, might remember a feature they used to do during the development of the last two prequels where they gathered all the rumours and tried to come up with the respective plots of the films in question.


The Force.Net...... what'sthat????? Never been there..........heh heh:oldrazz:


ALL HAIL BLUE YODA. :cwink:
 
I just thought of something. What if (like Secret Riddle said) the bank heist is the double homicide talked about at the end of BB.

But what if the series goes "Bond" and this event is the pre-title sequence, so that Bats doesn't have to come out in the daytime?

I think that'd be pretty sick. I just hope we don't get a pop song called "The Dark Knight" over an animated title sequence. :oldrazz:
 
Sounds good but what about the AMH part where does he fit in? I think there will be something involving Gordon's wife, where the Joker offs Mrs Gordon ecalating the partnership of Gordon and Batman while also making the Joker more hated.
 
Great summary, but you forgot to add all the blurry, super-fast fight scenes. :up:
 
id be happy if this movie went for 19 hours and everything we can think up could be played out in real time... i am loving this films story.
AMH's character along with Heath as Joker are iron clad it seems... we've had hints/peeks... but nothing...
N.
 
with all these characters an plots big and little going on, i cant help but wonder if it might get a little confusing kind of like pirates of the Caribbean
 
with all these characters an plots big and little going on, i cant help but wonder if it might get a little confusing kind of like pirates of the Caribbean

I doubt it. There were a similar number of characters in Batman Begins.
 
No idea where the new costume or batpod plays into this??? seems like an episode of The Batman.
-New Villian Appears
-Batman confronts them
-Batman loses
-Batman gets new toy
-Batman wins
-gratutious sex scene
-credits
....or something like that
 

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