The Story.

[Venom'sDad]

Because Clark is the only way he can relate to most people on their level.

I'm sorry, but I simply don't see it that way. Superman always find release at being Superman. His stance alone, with his hands on his hips, chest out, and the mere enjoyment of flying alone, shows how comfortable he is in his own element.

It's when he's Kent, that he's uncomfortable with; as if, in the closet to who he really is. How he wrestle with telling Lois who he is, his true nature, and how he feels. He is more in command as Supes, than as Kent.

Come on, I just don't see what you are talking about.

As for getting away from the Big Blue Boy Scout image as others have discussed, simple: bring back Superman as the hard-ass social crusader.

No one is advocating that, come on. But the Boy-Scout, bumbling klutz needs to stop. It's time to move on from that. If not now(in a reboot), it may never. Damn you Donner! Kent does not have to be that way to differentiate himself from Superman.

http://screenrant.com/superman-man-of-steel-script-secret-origin-schrad-93433/

That's an interesting read and kinda goes to what I was trying to explain as internal conflict.

Yeah, core attributes is a must, but he also need to command respect like the George Reeves version. One thing I think is paramount is he needs to have internal conflict between his natural self(Krytonian) and his need to become more Human. There should be some solitude there... and that should be the source of vulnerbility. Not Kryptnite, Red Sun, power loss machine, etc.

I don't think it will have anything to do with a three persona approach. Like you, it may be a bit much for him as a child, being revealed his true nature and such; his desire to be like everyone else. But as he become older and more mature of his true being, as it begin to manifest itself more, I think that's where he start questioning, what part of himself, he should embrace. I think he will embrace both, but at what cost.... this is where I see him being vulnerable.

 

[IamtheBatman]

I think a good thing to do, if rumours are true that a tornado will hit Smallville, is to show Clark just before without his powers.

Say the tornado strikes, and people are trapped, Clark risks his life, without knowing he has powers. This shows that he was always heroic and its not the powers that make him do anything. THEN he finds out from the Kent's that he is an Alien? Cut to some time later in Africa maybe, where he has had the time to gain new abilities and adjust to them.

Or, saves Lana from Ben Hubbard's tractor like in Superman: Secret Origin.

 

[Wheels]

Its also more..."human", something a lot of people want with this new movie. Any adopted kid is gonna want to know about where they came from.

I agree.

Every adopted child struggles with these issues in one way or another.

 

[Herolee10]

One thing that I wouldn't mind seeing, hell I'm hoping to see it, is to see Superman discover first hand as to how far his powers go, because if this is a origin story, assuming that there won't be a FOS telling him to how to use his powers, let alone hone them...it'd be realistic to see Superman placed in situations where he's taken to the limit because prior towards his superman days, he wouldn't have had any experience on having used his powers all the way.

 

[Kurosawa]

I'm sorry, but I simply don't see it that way. Superman always find release at being Superman. His stance alone, with his hands on his hips, chest out, and the mere enjoyment of flying alone, shows how comfortable he is in his own element.

It's when he's Kent, that he's uncomfortable with; as if, in the closet to who he really is. How he wrestle with telling Lois who he is, his true nature, and how he feels. He is more in command as Supes, than as Kent.

Come on, I just don't see what you are talking about.

No one is advocating that, come on. But the Boy-Scout, bumbling klutz needs to stop. It's time to move on from that. If not now(in a reboot), it may never. Damn you Donner! Kent does not have to be that way to differentiate himself from Superman.


That's an interesting read and kinda goes to what I was trying to explain as internal conflict.



I don't think it will have anything to do with a three persona approach. Like you, it may be a bit much for him as a child, being revealed his true nature and such; his desire to be like everyone else. But as he become older and more mature of his true being, as it begin to manifest itself more, I think that's where he start questioning, what part of himself, he should embrace. I think he will embrace both, but at what cost.... this is where I see him being vulnerable.

Superman would find a release in being Superman if he was a character that was once normal like Spider-Man, but he was never normal. From childhood on, Superman was superhuman. Of course he's most comfortable when he's being himself, but people cannot relate to Superman like they do with Clark. People relate to Clark as a normal person but are awestruck by Superman. As Clark, he's not expected to save everyone or be perfect or have all the answers. That's why Clark is a release for him.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

I feel like Clark should discover his powers at 10 in like a tornado and he's trying to save people but he doesn't know he has powers yet. Shows he's a heroic person even without them. I find that Clark should view being Superman not a choice but as something he has to do. He has to become Superman because when he's in Africa he sees people suffering and he says to himself. "With all this great power, How do I not act". He becomes Superman to help the world in ways he could never do as regular ole Clark.

 

[The Sage]

I prefer Clark's abilities manifesting over time, even before ten years old. Maybe in small bursts. Having a moment where he experiences superspeed as a kid while playing tag or something.

 

[Lencho01]

I prefer Clark's abilities manifesting over time, even before ten years old. Maybe in small bursts. Having a moment where he experiences superspeed as a kid while playing tag or something.

I remember on Smallville, Pa Kent mentioned once that he and Clark (as a kid) were playing around (tag or something) and Clark all of sudden had superspeed and ended up crying in some woods miles away. Always thought that would be interesting to see on screen.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

I feel like Clark should discover his powers at 10 in like a tornado and he's trying to save people but he doesn't know he has powers yet.

Superman should not be an X-Man. I prefer him having superhuman powers already when he's a baby. True to the core of the myth. And please not the "But how can the Kents control a super-powered baby???"-argument now.

 

[BH/HHH]

I think like in Smallville his powers should develop over time, but I like the idea of him learning to fly for the first time when saving Smallville from a tornado.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

I dont think he should have powers as soon as lands on earth. His powers should take time to develop and he learning how to use his powers could be a interesting storyline.

 

[GreenKToo]

This may be a minor nitpick, but i'd really like to see how they explain his shot records etc. You can't get into a school without them and they usually check up on the records that you do give them.
Maybe the Kents would have had to trust a close family friend that was a doctor?

 

[Kurosawa]

That wasn't an issue when Superman was created but it would be now. But he is much better having powers from the time he was a baby. For one thing, every other character either gets their powers by mistake or they develop over time. So much of what people want to change about Superman gets rid of what makes him unique. A cookie-cutter Superman just doesn't work.

 

[SuperDaniel]

IYO. How would farmers with no money raise a superpowered baby? It makes no sense whatsoever. The best update he got in post-crisis was developing his powers over time, imo. Makes everything more believable, imo.

 

[8wid]

What if Darkseid just kidnaps Lois Lane and forces her to be one of his many wives or mistresses and uses her enslavement to drive Superman mad or make him extremely angry and frustrated because he cannot get to her. This is an idea especially if the two are already aware of the dual identity and are dating.

 

[Herolee10]

I'd like to see a version of Clark Kent that doesn't get all the answers on how to be a hero from a Artificial Intelligence.lol


But all in all, I just want to see one of Superman's main arcs in this film be him winning over the trust of the public by the time the film ends.

 

[Kurosawa]

IYO. How would farmers with no money raise a superpowered baby? It makes no sense whatsoever. The best update he got in post-crisis was developing his powers over time, imo. Makes everything more believable, imo.

His powers did develop over time, but he started out powerful as a baby because that was a clear reference to Hercules strangling two serpents as a baby. It's part of the mythology.

 

[NotFadeAway]

I'm sorry, but I simply don't see it that way. Superman always find release at being Superman. His stance alone, with his hands on his hips, chest out, and the mere enjoyment of flying alone, shows how comfortable he is in his own element.

It's when he's Kent, that he's uncomfortable with; as if, in the closet to who he really is. How he wrestle with telling Lois who he is, his true nature, and how he feels. He is more in command as Supes, than as Kent.

Come on, I just don't see what you are talking about.

Actually, this analogy can perfectly fit the idea that Kent is the real person and show such truth. Human being's are a naturally uncomfortable breed for the most part. And in a sad self-fulfilling prophecy, this uncomfortabilty becomes who we are as people. Superman could, in addition to being a hero, serve as Kent's escapism, a way to blow off steem and recharge.

I have argued a few times that the movie should go an original route and establish both Superman and Kent as both being the real person that show up in different moments. Both persona's represent who he is and the life he has lived on Earth.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

IYO. How would farmers with no money raise a superpowered baby? It makes no sense whatsoever. The best update he got in post-crisis was developing his powers over time, imo. Makes everything more believable, imo.

From what I've seen, the concept of Superman's powers developing as he grew up existed long before MoS. In the earliest comics, in the animated shorts, the serials, AoS, the movies, etc.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

One thing that I wouldn't mind seeing, hell I'm hoping to see it, is to see Superman discover first hand as to how far his powers go, because if this is a origin story, assuming that there won't be a FOS telling him to how to use his powers, let alone hone them...it'd be realistic to see Superman placed in situations where he's taken to the limit because prior towards his superman days, he wouldn't have had any experience on having used his powers all the way.

Have you read Superman: Kryptonite?

I thought that had a great look into how he feels about his limits. He actually at one point is drowing in lava. And though it doesn't hurt, he still panics. He's terrified, because he doesn't KNOW his limits when he goes into something like that. It COULD be deadly. And he comes out of that, coughing up lava, looking so terrifying to the crowd that they call him a demon.

And I think it'd be good to show something like that, to appease all the people who say 'Superman's a boring hero because nothing can hurt him'...

 

[Herolee10]

Have you read Superman: Kryptonite?

I thought that had a great look into how he feels about his limits. He actually at one point is drowing in lava. And though it doesn't hurt, he still panics. He's terrified, because he doesn't KNOW his limits when he goes into something like that. It COULD be deadly. And he comes out of that, coughing up lava, looking so terrifying to the crowd that they call him a demon.

And I think it'd be good to show something like that, to appease all the people who say 'Superman's a boring hero because nothing can hurt him'...

Well as long as they don't depower him in the manner that Bruce Timm did with the character for most of the duration in his DCAU.

I mean we've all seen Superman for the most part in live incarnations, be rather comfortable and in control of what he's doing when performing a huge scale rescue during scenarios where it's presented to be his first public appearance.

I think it'd be more realistic for Superman to be shown to learn on the spot on how to utilize his powers in the correct manner, similar to how they did with Magneto in X Men First Class.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Well as long as they don't depower him in the manner that Bruce Timm did with the character for most of the duration in his DCAU.

I mean we've all seen Superman for the most part in live incarnations, be rather comfortable and in control of what he's doing when performing a huge scale rescue during scenarios where it's presented to be his first public appearance.

I think it'd be more realistic for Superman to be shown to learn on the spot on how to utilize his powers in the correct manner, similar to how they did with Magneto in X Men First Class.

No they definitely didn't show him as de powered in that novel, as in the end of it he flies almost into the sun. It's just about the notion of him not knowing if this might be it. Every time a villain invents a new weapon, he's thinking 'will this be the one they got right, will this one kill me?'

It certainly be interesting to see a Magneto/Xavier dynamic in Clark/Zod tho. That might work. I'm not sure how else they'd show him learning on the spot.

 

[SuperDaniel]

From what I've seen, the concept of Superman's powers developing as he grew up existed long before MoS. In the earliest comics, in the animated shorts, the serials, AoS, the movies, etc.

He was always a superpowered baby that flies around the house. Watch the ruby spears cartoon or when the kents send kal-el to the orphanage and he destroys the place. Sorry but the concept of a superpowered baby is ridiculous, imo.

I like how Byrne did it. It wasn't a normal ship with cockpit and all. The baby needed life-support. Sure it doesnt have to be a birthing matrix but it doesnt have to be a normal ship like we see all the time. Just have the baby sleeping in cryogenic mode or something.

 

[Eddie Dean]

To be completely honest, a romantic comedy style movie about the trials and tribulations of Kevin Costner and Diane Lane raising a super-powered baby (think of the inevitable diaper changing scene!) sounds fantastic to me.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

With his powers coming from the yellow sun, it wouldn't make sense for him to be immediately super powered anyway, would it?

I mean I'm no scientist, but I'm sure the effect wouldn't be instantanious the moment the the ship opened.