The Story.

[Tacit Ronin]

it feels so much like a copycat of batman begins.

the parents' death, the beard, the wondering around the world doing lousy job, finding the meaning and his place...
damn! that is exactly the same!!!

It's the banality that is the superhero origin structure. I see posters are finally getting wise to it.

 

[Raiden]

it feels so much like a copycat of batman begins.

the parents' death, the beard, the wondering around the world doing lousy job, finding the meaning and his place...
damn! that is exactly the same!!!

The story does seemed to have Nolan's fingerprints all over it.

 

[Superman_200]

it feels so much like a copycat of batman begins.

the parents' death, the beard, the wondering around the world doing lousy job, finding the meaning and his place...
damn! that is exactly the same!!!

Spoiler

I was under the impression only one of his parents is dead, when did Martha join the club?

 

[8wid]

This has probably been brought up (many times Im sure) but it just occured to me that the "mystery CGI enhanced big guy" could be Bizarro.

Maybe Zod uses Kryptonian tech to clone Superman to ruin all the good will he has built up with the humans by destroying everything in his guise?

Anyway,kind of unlikely - but just a thought

I don't think it would be necessary for Zod to have to clone Superman in this way when he has all of Superman's powers instead. All he has to do it come down to earth, cause havoc and say Superman is really one of them working in disguise and most of humanity will simply belief him. They won't want any Kryptonians at all being allowed unchecked around the world, especially with the pushing of Luthor who may work with Zod in some way.

 

[Micromind]

it feels so much like a copycat of batman begins.

the parents' death, the beard, the wondering around the world doing lousy job, finding the meaning and his place...
damn! that is exactly the same!!!

But some of that part already existed long before Batman Begins came out, in Birthright comics story.

 

[Wheels]

Birthright is what first popped into my when I read about those story elements.

 

[Willi Berg]

It's easy to assume it's going to be like Batman Begins, it could very well be, but it could be something different. Lois Lane being there does make me wonder why she would be there.

io9 had an article about it:

Man of Steel

Production is headed to British Columbia for the rest of filming, and one big location is reportedly the Vancouver Island community of Ucluelet, which will be doubling as an Alaskan fishing village. The location was reportedly chosen for its isolated, "farflung" look, and the film crew is currently looking for "older men and women with 'character faces' and some 'commercial fishermen types'" to appear as extras. No word on just how this location fits into the movie's story - an obvious guess is that Superman visits the village en route to or from the Fortress of Solitude, much like the far northern truck stop where Clark Kent gets beaten up in Superman II. However, that's not the only possibility. The villains General Zod or Faora could be invovled with this town in some way - perhaps it's where they first arrive on Earth — or it might simply be somewhere Clark Kent is sent on assignment by the Daily Planet.

The rest of filming will run through January 2012 in and around the Vancouver area, with interior filming rumored to be held at the Mammoth Studios complex.

http://io9.com/5841568/why-is-the-new-superman-headed-to-an-alaskan-fishing-village?tag=morning-spoilers

 

[Herolee10]

Idk about some people, but personally, I'm tired of the whole building a fortress with some device that was provided by his parents routine. And what I'm hoping that they especially avoid is having a AI version of Jor el tell Clark on what he's supposed to do with his life and such.

 

[Willi Berg]

Idk about some people, but personally, I'm tired of the whole building a fortress with some device that was provided by his parents routine. And what I'm hoping that they especially avoid is having a AI version of Jor el tell Clark on what he's supposed to do with his life and such.

Yes, I don't want Jor-El controlling Superman in the FOS, or taking away his powers etc. I would like the Fortress to be where Superman really is alone and builds it up over time.

 

[_Kal-El_]

I doubt they're going to have Jor-El go all "Psycho Dad" on him, like Stamp did in Smallville. I don't mind Jor-El preserving his conscience in the FoS, as long as they do an at least equally good job as Donner did in StM (without blatant copying of course).

 

[Herolee10]

I doubt they're going to have Jor-El go all "Psycho Dad" on him, like Stamp did in Smallville. I don't mind Jor-El preserving his conscience in the FoS, as long as they do an at least equally good job as Donner did in StM (without blatant copying of course).

Agreed, though as mentioned above, I don't want Jor-el to have the same impact on Clark, like his character as had in recent media, when it comes to his (Clark's) decision to ultimately become Superman.

I don't want anyone telling Clark that it's his destiny to become a selfless hero who supposedly has no right or entitlement towards having a happy life of his own.

I want Jor-el's and Lara's reason for sending Clark to earth to simply be because they wanted to save their infant son from dying on their doomed planet and NOT because Jor el wanted to give Earth a new savior.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I like the idea of showing him travelling to the Fortress with him growing a beard in the process. Actually showing this journey could be cool.

 

[Marvin]

I like the idea of showing him travelling to the Fortress with him growing a beard in the process. Actually showing this journey could be cool.

I like the idea also. It would be nice for comic book movies to actually dramatize their ideas and not just present them.

If he's going to make a journey, go for it and don't just show a few images of the idea. A problem I have with every comic book adaptation thus far.

 

[Willi Berg]

I was just wondering in another thread, would it just be a journey to "find himself" though? Clark looks to be becoming Superman in a time when Zod arrives and the the world is suspicious of aliens, so he could be hiding out also. Then he has to make his decision as to how to get involved. As the synopsis said:

But when the world needs stability the most, it comes under attack. Will his abilities be used to maintain peace or ultimately used to divide and conquer? Clark must become the hero known as “Superman,” not only to shine as the world’s last beacon of hope but to protect the ones he loves.”

 

[Marvin]

The choice not only represents what it always has: become a hero(worlds greatest) and good guy and to apply himself into an adult world..etc. At the same time it will represent a direct answer to Zod.

Which is swell.

 

[fixxxer1022]

i said this months ago that i hated nolan being involved in this. i agree this movie is shaping up like batmans begins.

 

[Willi Berg]

Yes, it looks like Superman could use a mentor like Liam Neeson at that point in time. Look rather lost, poor chap. Maybe he will smoke a flower at some point and have crazy visions (if he's lucky.)

 

[Superman_200]

i said this months ago that i hated nolan being involved in this. i agree this movie is shaping up like batmans begins.

I think that Nolan being involved will make it more grounded in reality. The character itself does not have to realistic because of what he can do; however, his personality and everyone else around him in the movie should have realistic personalities. It is normal for people (especially if someone could fly and be immortal and do all of these things) to want to explore the world. He might just have a job as a fisherman, he might have started out there, he might be a journalist traveling the world, if this were set in West Africa, everyone would say "Oh cool, it was in the comics, so that is okay! Go Nolan!" but if it is set in an Alaskan fishing town, then, it is weird.

I think Nolan's involvement can only help hammer the point home that the acting should be realistic. That the camp is out. That if there are elements from the comics that are corny, well, if they need to be in the movie for the story, improvise and make them as acceptable to today's audience as possible. If it can't be done (like Robin) then it doesn't have to be in the movie. I understand comic book fans like the comics, but this is a movie, not a comic. A movie based off of a comic. Every movie based off of a book has to have some freedom to make changes. "Inglorious Bastards" made quiet a few changes from the pages of history, and no one seemed to have a problem with it. "Amadeus" was different from the pages of history. "Jurassic Park" was different from the book, etc. I don't see why a movie can't be different from the comics.

 

[Pinky021]

I think that Nolan being involved will make it more grounded in reality. The character itself does not have to realistic because of what he can do; however, his personality and everyone else around him in the movie should have realistic personalities. It is normal for people (especially if someone could fly and be immortal and do all of these things) to want to explore the world. He might just have a job as a fisherman, he might have started out there, he might be a journalist traveling the world, if this were set in West Africa, everyone would say "Oh cool, it was in the comics, so that is okay! Go Nolan!" but if it is set in an Alaskan fishing town, then, it is weird.

I think Nolan's involvement can only help hammer the point home that the acting should be realistic. That the camp is out. That if there are elements from the comics that are corny, well, if they need to be in the movie for the story, improvise and make them as acceptable to today's audience as possible. If it can't be done (like Robin) then it doesn't have to be in the movie. I understand comic book fans like the comics, but this is a movie, not a comic. A movie based off of a comic. Every movie based off of a book has to have some freedom to make changes. "Inglorious Bastards" made quiet a few changes from the pages of history, and no one seemed to have a problem with it. "Amadeus" was different from the pages of history. "Jurassic Park" was different from the book, etc. I don't see why a movie can't be different from the comics.

I agree.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The Basterds comparison is puzzling. Nobody is complaining about it because Basterds is an original story. It is not based off a novel or comic.

 

[Superman_200]

The Basterds comparison is puzzling. Nobody is complaining about it because Basterds is an original story. It is not based off a novel or comic.

No, its based on the pages of history that is more important than any comic book. That is not how Hitler was killed, or died, and the whole story is fictional but involving real characters. And like I said, Amadeus as well, and Jurassic Park, Exorcist, Godfather, Godfather II, Sphere, etc.

And Bastards was an original story based off a real story, the story of a real life murderer fictionalized. Superman is an original story based off of a fictional character, why can't they take some liberties to make him into what they want him to be?

 

[sf2]

Idk about some people, but personally, I'm tired of the whole building a fortress with some device that was provided by his parents routine. And what I'm hoping that they especially avoid is having a AI version of Jor el tell Clark on what he's supposed to do with his life and such.

hmmm... could it be jor el had visited the earth before and built the FOS???

so that clark gotta travel to there to find out himself?

 

[Mad Love]

"wandering around the world doing lousy job, finding meaning and his place..."

That's what basically how it is for a lot of 20-somethings

i said this months ago that i hated nolan being involved in this. i agree this movie is shaping up like batmans begins.

Yeah, because Batman Begins was horrible.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Yeah, because Batman Begins was horrible.

No, because what makes The Man of Steel as "fresh, bold and innovative" as they claimed when all it is Superman's answer to Batman Begins, which itself was the Batman answer to Superman: the Movie?

 

[Rusty Mcgoofy]

No, because what makes The Man of Steel as "fresh, bold and innovative" as they claimed when all it is Superman's answer to Batman Begins, which itself was the Batman answer to Superman: the Movie?

I dont think you can say that and clain TMOS is Supe's answer to BB when we dont know anything and shooting is not even half way done. And I think that the comments about MOST being fresh and new and what not were ment in relation to the previous Superman movies and other live action versions of Superman and not in relation to the entire world wide historic cinematic offering wich includes Batman Begins. And hey if we go down that route then Batman Begins rip's off Supermans Birthright! I dont think TMOS should be restrained from making ´´world travels with self seeking`` or something a long those lines just because Batman had it. Ever since I read Birthright upon release I hoped they would adopt a similar origin in the future Superman movies. And it looks like thats sort of happening now (I hope so anyway) and im loving the hints, so far.