The Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation

[Bary]

TSS cost nearly $200m to make. That budget, in hindsight, is inexcusable.

Im sure idris, Viola and Margo didn't come cheap and the heavy vfx will make a budget go up real quick.

 

[kguillou]

I think this has a chance of becoming a cult hit even after its run is done with many of the GA who stayed away finding out they like it a lot when coming across it on streaming.

I agree, i can actually picture this making bank on home video. I think the movie is just a little…TOO off kilter for general audiences like Birds of Prey was. This is several notches above BoP in terms of quality but it still has a niche feel to it. I can easily see people being kind of like “wut?” at all these obscure, weird villain characters. Hell, I’m a seasoned comic book fan and i had no idea who the Hell Ratcatcher 2 was.

Ayer’s SS had some big anchors for audiences to latch onto in order to ride with the movie’s concept. Here…not so much. They have Harley and Idris Elba and John Cena in a funny helmet, I guess?

 

[Iceman]

I agree, i can actually picture this making bank on home video. I think the movie is just a little…TOO off kilter for general audiences like Birds of Prey was. This is several notches above BoP in terms of quality but it still has a niche feel to it. I can easily see people being kind of like “wut?” at all these obscure, weird villain characters. Hell, I’m a seasoned comic book fan and i had no idea who the Hell Ratcatcher 2 was.

Ayer’s SS had some big anchors for audiences to latch onto in order to ride with the movie’s concept. Here…not so much. They have Harley and Idris Elba and John Cena in a funny helmet, I guess?

True, but that is reasonably common in cult films. I think there are many in the GA (the kind who like unusual and risky films (also the type of films that go on to become cult films) and don’t go so much for franchise sequels) who are into this kind of thing but wouldn’t expect to find it in or look for it in a CBM. I’m hoping word gets through to them asap.

 

[Iceman]

GOTG also wasn’t rated R and released during a pandemic. The Suicide Squad is fun, but it’s a lot harder to market to kids even though a ton of them are probably gonna see it anyway.

At least it wasn’t an R for the sake of a few curse words. This was a pretty hard R and part of the fundamental makeup of the film. I’m not one for excess gore but most of the elements of the film fit together naturally so it was always going to get that rating and will just have to deal with any box office consequences. It’s not even suitable for young kids lol.

 

[Drizzle]

At least it wasn’t an R for the sake of a few curse words. This was a pretty hard R and part of the fundamental makeup of the film. I’m not one for excess gore but most of the elements of the film fit together naturally so it was always going to get that rating and will just have to deal with any box office consequences. It’s not even suitable for young kids lol.

Yeah, it even made the most violent moments in the Deadpool movies look tame. I’m actually kind of shocked that the MPAA allowed some of the stuff that they did, like

Spoiler

showing the knife going into Flag’s heart and the prolonged shot of King Shark chewing on the severed head.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

This movie just isn't going to be for everybody, especially compared to something like GOTG which is nowhere near as weird, crazy and most of all gory as this movie was.

I honestly think the niche, vulgar humor is less GA friendly than anything regarding the violence in the movie, but I guess it could be a combination of both aswell.

Even films like Logan, Joker and the two Deadpool movies seem more appealing in comparison, but atleast Gunn didn't waste the almost $200M budget he recieved for it.

 

[Iceman]

Yeah, it even made the most violent moments in the Deadpool movies look tame. I’m actually kind of shocked that the MPAA allowed some of the stuff that they did, like

Spoiler

showing the knife going into Flag’s heart and the prolonged shot of King Shark chewing on the severed head.

I’m not into gore at all, but I could cope with pretty much everything - even though it was pretty consistently out there throughout. The one thing I don’t like watching is bone breaks (the wrong way). Had to look away at one point and pretty loudly said “no!” in the cinema. Couldn’t control it

 

[Iceman]

This movie just isn't going to be for everybody, especially compared to something like GOTG which is nowhere near as weird, crazy and most of all gory as this movie was.

I honestly think the niche, vulgar humor is less GA friendly than anything regarding the violence in the movie, but I guess it could be a combination of both aswell.

Even films like Logan, Joker and the two Deadpool movies seem more appealing in comparison, but atleast Gunn didn't waste the almost $200M budget he recieved for it.

Yeah the difference is that this film revels in those things while the other films you mention are doing it to tell the story. That is part of what this film is - a crazy, dark, no-holds barred comedy.

I agree in that I never thought this film would be for everybody, and that’s what surprised me even more with the reviews. I would have thought something like 30% of the reviewers wouldn’t be able to get into the excesses of TSS and I’m very happy to be wrong.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think this would have performed fine if not for the pandemic. But regardless if this movie loses money or not, I am glad the studio made the movie. Cause I loved it and that is mostly what I care about. How much a movie makes and critical/audience reception are all secondary things to me

 

[Bary]

It was a good and well made movie that had a voice and vision of what it wanted to be. Having said that I did have a problem with the middle part of the movie dragging with Harley and the montage of her falling in love. Other then that this is a win for DC and a needed one after that horrendous wonder woman 84

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Incase anybody was wondering:

 

[Drizzle]

Incase anybody was wondering:

Somehow I feel like even if he had been aware of it, it wouldn’t have made much of a difference. It’s not like it would have made any sense for any of the supporting cast of BOP to be shoehorned into this. That being said though, it is a shame that Ewan McGregor’s Black Mask didn’t survive that movie because I feel like Gunn could have had some fun with him in TSS.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Somehow I feel like even if he had been aware of it, it wouldn’t have made much of a difference. It’s not like it would have made any sense for any of the supporting cast of BOP to be shoehorned into this. That being said though, it is a shame that Ewan McGregor’s Black Mask didn’t survive that movie because I feel like Gunn could have had some fun with him in TSS.

I don't think him dying really matters. They don't seem to care about continuity so if Gunn wants to use him in something else I'm sure nobody would oppose it

 

[Drizzle]

I don't think him dying really matters. They don't seem to care about continuity so if Gunn wants to use him in something else I'm sure nobody would oppose it

Probably not but DCEU in general seems to adhere to continuity to an extent. For example, the events of the first Suicide Squad aren’t mentioned in Gunn’s movie but there’s nothing to suggest that they didn’t happen. But I don’t think there’ll be any resurrecting dead characters without explanation unless The Flash completely shakes up the timeline.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Incase anybody was wondering:

This pretty much says it all about the DCEU lol.

 

[P Supreme]

I'm glad nothing from bop made it into this film that movie was atrocious anyway I think the movie went a little extreme with the kills just because ubgot the green light to make it R doesn't mean u have be that violent. (Man I must be getting old ) lol

 

[CadeSkywalker28]

About the gore and violence in TSS you can say everything except that it was organic, on the contrary, it was exaggerated and unnatural, grotesque as in Kill Bill.

Logan and Deadpool (2016) showed how to compliment the movie with R rating and not overdo it.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

With most of the cinemas closed in Australia, is there any way we Australians can watch the movie? Is it available on demand anywhere?

Thanks in advance.

 

[TheVileOne]

Nothing in this movie really contradicts Birds of Prey, so it doesn't really matter. This was a much better more entertaining movie anyway.

Wow, they really nailed Starro. Never would've expected to see a pretty much perfect 1:1 translation of Starro in live-action. Wish we could say the same for Taskmaster

 

[Micromind]

Here's what one movie Critic says (spoiler free) about The Suicide Squad.

 

[CB Fan]

I really enjoyed this. Gunn did a great job.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Deadline:

similar to the first movie, it's the middle-aged folk who are weighing down the audience exits on Gunn’s Suicide Squad with 66% over 25 giving it a B, and 37% over 35 a B-. In fact, the over 25 crowd enjoyed this sequel slightly less than Ayer’s giving it a B- to the first’s B.”

 

[Prison Mike]

Yeah I didn’t really care for this movie. It was slightly better than the 2016 movie IMO. Probably the 3rd worst on my list of the DCEU movies, just ahead of Suicide Squad (2016) and Birds of Prey.

 

[blackdragon6]

I didn't hate it , and I didn't love it either. The first half and middle was eye crossingly boring and unfunny. The only thing I genuinely liked was the last 40 minutes or so. However I did love Bloodsport (he should have been Bronze Tiger, or Black Spider. But whatever I guess), Ratcatcher 2, and Harley. I hated they killed boomerang, I think that was a bad call imo. All in all, my feelings are about the same as the first film. Basically it's just AIGHT. Definitely better than WW84 and BoP tho lol.

 

[Spider-Fan]

For DCEU placement for me, it is closer to the top. I haven't ranked these movies in a while and I would maybe want to revisit Shazam before doing that, but The Suicide Squad I would say off hand prob makes my top 3.